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1. 01:21 AM - Re: Re: Redstar Aircrafts Up For Bid (Bill Geipel)
2. 01:38 PM - Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May 2014 (Etienne Verhellen)
3. 03:01 PM - Yak 50 flight control balancing (Todd McCutchan)
4. 09:42 PM - Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May 2014 (Jan Mevis)
5. 11:27 PM - Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May 2014 (Bill Geipel)
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| Subject: | Re: Redstar Aircrafts Up For Bid |
Can u make a lower offer or is it all or nothing?
On May 20, 2014, at 13:29, "barryhancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote:
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> Agreed, they are not very realistic. I tried to make an offer on the lot of
them before they went to these guys and they were not interested in what was a
pretty good offer for all 5 airplanes. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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| Subject: | Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May 2014 |
Another Yak-52 'gear-up' landing accident in Belgium .... [Exclamation] [Exclamation]
[Exclamation]
=============================================
Sunday 18 May 2014 - Namur airfield, EBNM.
See attached photo taken just a few moments after the crash in EBNM.
# Yak-52 Serial No. : 822203.
http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-34707/Yak-52-for-sale-34707.200.1.jpg
http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-34707/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14044351540/
Previously UK CAA registered (G-YAKO) and maintained under the supervision of the
UK Civil Aviation Authorithy
according to the Directives from the aircraft manufacturer, the Yakovlev Design
Bureau (YDB) regarding Life items
(Airframe, Engine, Propeller, Air bottles, Actuators, hoses, ...)
http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm
https://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/20140318MPD2002009R3.pdf
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=YAKO
http://www.caa.co.uk/applicationmodules/ginfo/ginfo_photo.aspx?regmark=G-YAKO&imgname=G-YAKO001&imgtype=jpg
... But then 'received' a Polish registration when it arrived in Belgium ...
(Belgian CAA Inspectors and AAIU - the 'Belgian AAIB' - have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE
about Yak-52) ...
RA-xxxxK, SP-YAM, F-WRUH, F-AZXK, LY-FOU, T7-xxx, ... etc etc
At least 2 'gear up' accident for the 'pilot' of this Yak-52 :
This one and one on Saturday 4 September, 2010 ...
# Yak-52 Serial No. : 899409 (RA-1453K then Temporary French registration F-WRUH)
has done at least 3 'gear-up' landings in Namur airfield EBNM, Belgium ...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/62861611@N08/8951700885/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14230563495/
So ... at least (!!!!!) ... 5 Yak-52 'gear-up' accidents at Namur airfield in Belgium
(EBNM).
Maybe more because they do not get reported when they happen at Namur airfield
[Rolling Eyes]
NOT a single report to Belgian CAA (DGTA) and Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU
- Mr Luc Blendeman)
by the pilot or by the airfield 'commander' ...
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/accidents/notification/
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/accid01NF_tcm467-215518.pdf
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/airw09%20NF_tcm467-215537.pdf
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/aeroports/terrains/aerodromes/
How come Herbert Decouvreur is still in charge as 'Commandant d'Arodrome' ??
Protected by some Safety Inspectors maybe ... (Mrs Genevive Laloux - Hugo WUYTS
??)
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/INS01NF_tcm467-215745.pdf
A lot of accidents at Namur airfield ... 19 October 2013 ... 11 people KILLED.
Something needs to be done.
Something MUST be done by the Belgian CAA before more people die.
_____________________________________________________________
A few years ago there was another VERY serious Yak-52 accident that could have
'easily' killed 2 or 3 persons.
The Belgian AAIU was informed but NOT INTERESTED.
No accident report published although it was promissed ...
So NO LESSON learned. I am fed up with this attitude.
_____________________________________________________________
[Arrow] Is there an issue with the maintenance of Yaks in Belgium [Question]
YES.
[Arrow] [Arrow] Is there an issue with the training of Yak pilots in Belgium
[Question] [Exclamation] Quite clearly YES [Shocked]
_____________________________________________
[Idea] Maintain your Yaks properly.
[Idea] Get type specific training from an experienced Yak-52 Aerobatic FI (A)
Flight Instructor.
[Idea] [Idea] Put the gear down before landing.
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
Cheers.
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-52/
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http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/240525/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-52/
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/215762/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-52/
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-52/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423517#423517
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__dimanche_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_800x600_150.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__dimanche_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_2_743.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/yak_52_training_airworthiness_and_registration_issues_111.pdf
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| Subject: | Yak 50 flight control balancing |
Can anyone provide the proper procedure for flight control balancing on Yak 5
0?
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com
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| Subject: | Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May |
2014
To all the Yak listers:
Mr Verhellen is at war with the airfield of Namur. That is obvious.
He 'll do whatever he can to harm the airfield and the people that are
based there.
I try to stay out of his fight. It's none of my business but this time,
and only this time, I have to react.
@Etienne: KEEP YOUR PERSONAL STUFF OFF THE LIST! YOU ARE ABUSING THE LIST.
Jan, Yak 50, F-AZUK, based ath the Namur airfield.
PS: I will not respond on eventual replies from Etienne Verhellen
On 20/05/14 22:38, "Etienne Verhellen" <janie@yak52.fr> wrote:
>
>Another Yak-52 'gear-up' landing accident in Belgium .... [Exclamation]
>[Exclamation] [Exclamation]
>=============================================
>
>Sunday 18 May 2014 - Namur airfield, EBNM.
>
>See attached photo taken just a few moments after the crash in EBNM.
>
># Yak-52 Serial No. : 822203.
>http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-34707
>/Yak-52-for-sale-34707.200.1.jpg
>http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-34707
>/
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14044351540/
>
>Previously UK CAA registered (G-YAKO) and maintained under the
>supervision of the UK Civil Aviation Authorithy
>according to the Directives from the aircraft manufacturer, the Yakovlev
>Design Bureau (YDB) regarding Life items
>(Airframe, Engine, Propeller, Air bottles, Actuators, hoses, ...)
>http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm
>https://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/20140318MPD2002009R3.pdf
>http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=de
>tailnosummary&fullregmark=YAKO
>http://www.caa.co.uk/applicationmodules/ginfo/ginfo_photo.aspx?regmark=G-Y
>AKO&imgname=G-YAKO001&imgtype=jpg
>
>... But then 'received' a Polish registration when it arrived in Belgium
>...
>(Belgian CAA Inspectors and AAIU - the 'Belgian AAIB' - have ABSOLUTELY
>NO CLUE about Yak-52) ...
>RA-xxxxK, SP-YAM, F-WRUH, F-AZXK, LY-FOU, T7-xxx, ... etc etc
>
>At least 2 'gear up' accident for the 'pilot' of this Yak-52 :
>This one and one on Saturday 4 September, 2010 ...
>
># Yak-52 Serial No. : 899409 (RA-1453K then Temporary French registration
>F-WRUH)
>has done at least 3 'gear-up' landings in Namur airfield EBNM, Belgium ...
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/62861611@N08/8951700885/
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14230563495/
>
>So ... at least (!!!!!) ... 5 Yak-52 'gear-up' accidents at Namur
>airfield in Belgium (EBNM).
>
>Maybe more because they do not get reported when they happen at Namur
>airfield [Rolling Eyes]
>
>NOT a single report to Belgian CAA (DGTA) and Air Accident Investigation
>Unit (AAIU - Mr Luc Blendeman)
>by the pilot or by the airfield 'commander' ...
>http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/accidents/notification/
>http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/accid01NF_tcm467-215518.pdf
>http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/airw09%20NF_tcm467-215537.pdf
>http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/aeroports/terrains/aerod
>romes/
>
>How come Herbert Decouvreur is still in charge as 'Commandant
>d'Arodrome' ??
>Protected by some Safety Inspectors maybe ... (Mrs Genevive Laloux -
>Hugo WUYTS ??)
>http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/INS01NF_tcm467-215745.pdf
>A lot of accidents at Namur airfield ... 19 October 2013 ... 11 people
>KILLED. Something needs to be done.
>Something MUST be done by the Belgian CAA before more people die.
>
>_____________________________________________________________
>
>A few years ago there was another VERY serious Yak-52 accident that could
>have 'easily' killed 2 or 3 persons.
>The Belgian AAIU was informed but NOT INTERESTED.
>No accident report published although it was promissed ...
>So NO LESSON learned. I am fed up with this attitude.
>_____________________________________________________________
>
> [Arrow] Is there an issue with the maintenance of Yaks in Belgium
>[Question] YES.
>
> [Arrow] [Arrow] Is there an issue with the training of Yak pilots in
>Belgium [Question] [Exclamation] Quite clearly YES [Shocked]
>
>_____________________________________________
>
> [Idea] Maintain your Yaks properly.
>
> [Idea] Get type specific training from an experienced Yak-52 Aerobatic
>FI (A) Flight Instructor.
>
> [Idea] [Idea] Put the gear down before landing.
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_orig
>inal_363.pdf
>
>Cheers.
>http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>52/
>
>--------
>http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/240525/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>52/
>http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/215762/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>52/
>http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>52/
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423517#423517
>
>
>Attachments:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__dimanc
>he_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_800x600_150.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__dimanc
>he_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_2_743.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/yak_52_training_airworthiness_and_regis
>tration_issues_111.pdf
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May |
2014
Getting instruction from an "Aerobatic" instructor will not get the gear down any
better
I would appreciate it if the FAA would not get involved in a non-event like a gear
up landing in a Yak. Not much damage not much of an issue.
Good luck fighting the government.
On May 21, 2014, at 13:41, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> wrote:
>
> To all the Yak listers:
>
>
> Mr Verhellen is at war with the airfield of Namur. That is obvious.
>
> He 'll do whatever he can to harm the airfield and the people that are
> based there.
>
> I try to stay out of his fight. It's none of my business but this time,
> and only this time, I have to react.
>
> @Etienne: KEEP YOUR PERSONAL STUFF OFF THE LIST! YOU ARE ABUSING THE LIST.
>
>
> Jan, Yak 50, F-AZUK, based ath the Namur airfield.
>
>
> PS: I will not respond on eventual replies from Etienne Verhellen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20/05/14 22:38, "Etienne Verhellen" <janie@yak52.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>> Another Yak-52 'gear-up' landing accident in Belgium .... [Exclamation]
>> [Exclamation] [Exclamation]
>> =============================================
>>
>> Sunday 18 May 2014 - Namur airfield, EBNM.
>>
>> See attached photo taken just a few moments after the crash in EBNM.
>>
>> # Yak-52 Serial No. : 822203.
>> http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-34707
>> /Yak-52-for-sale-34707.200.1.jpg
>> http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-34707
>> /
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14044351540/
>>
>> Previously UK CAA registered (G-YAKO) and maintained under the
>> supervision of the UK Civil Aviation Authorithy
>> according to the Directives from the aircraft manufacturer, the Yakovlev
>> Design Bureau (YDB) regarding Life items
>> (Airframe, Engine, Propeller, Air bottles, Actuators, hoses, ...)
>> http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm
>> https://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/20140318MPD2002009R3.pdf
>> http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=de
>> tailnosummary&fullregmark=YAKO
>> http://www.caa.co.uk/applicationmodules/ginfo/ginfo_photo.aspx?regmark=G-Y
>> AKO&imgname=G-YAKO001&imgtype=jpg
>>
>> ... But then 'received' a Polish registration when it arrived in Belgium
>> ...
>> (Belgian CAA Inspectors and AAIU - the 'Belgian AAIB' - have ABSOLUTELY
>> NO CLUE about Yak-52) ...
>> RA-xxxxK, SP-YAM, F-WRUH, F-AZXK, LY-FOU, T7-xxx, ... etc etc
>>
>> At least 2 'gear up' accident for the 'pilot' of this Yak-52 :
>> This one and one on Saturday 4 September, 2010 ...
>>
>> # Yak-52 Serial No. : 899409 (RA-1453K then Temporary French registration
>> F-WRUH)
>> has done at least 3 'gear-up' landings in Namur airfield EBNM, Belgium ...
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/62861611@N08/8951700885/
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14230563495/
>>
>> So ... at least (!!!!!) ... 5 Yak-52 'gear-up' accidents at Namur
>> airfield in Belgium (EBNM).
>>
>> Maybe more because they do not get reported when they happen at Namur
>> airfield [Rolling Eyes]
>>
>> NOT a single report to Belgian CAA (DGTA) and Air Accident Investigation
>> Unit (AAIU - Mr Luc Blendeman)
>> by the pilot or by the airfield 'commander' ...
>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/accidents/notification/
>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/accid01NF_tcm467-215518.pdf
>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/airw09%20NF_tcm467-215537.pdf
>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/aeroports/terrains/aerod
>> romes/
>>
>> How come Herbert Decouvreur is still in charge as 'Commandant
>> d'Arodrome' ??
>> Protected by some Safety Inspectors maybe ... (Mrs Genevive Laloux -
>> Hugo WUYTS ??)
>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/INS01NF_tcm467-215745.pdf
>> A lot of accidents at Namur airfield ... 19 October 2013 ... 11 people
>> KILLED. Something needs to be done.
>> Something MUST be done by the Belgian CAA before more people die.
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________
>>
>> A few years ago there was another VERY serious Yak-52 accident that could
>> have 'easily' killed 2 or 3 persons.
>> The Belgian AAIU was informed but NOT INTERESTED.
>> No accident report published although it was promissed ...
>> So NO LESSON learned. I am fed up with this attitude.
>> _____________________________________________________________
>>
>> [Arrow] Is there an issue with the maintenance of Yaks in Belgium
>> [Question] YES.
>>
>> [Arrow] [Arrow] Is there an issue with the training of Yak pilots in
>> Belgium [Question] [Exclamation] Quite clearly YES [Shocked]
>>
>> _____________________________________________
>>
>> [Idea] Maintain your Yaks properly.
>>
>> [Idea] Get type specific training from an experienced Yak-52 Aerobatic
>> FI (A) Flight Instructor.
>>
>> [Idea] [Idea] Put the gear down before landing.
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_orig
>> inal_363.pdf
>>
>> Cheers.
>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>> 52/
>>
>> --------
>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/240525/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>> 52/
>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/215762/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>> 52/
>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak-
>> 52/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423517#423517
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__dimanc
>> he_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_800x600_150.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__dimanc
>> he_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_2_743.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/yak_52_training_airworthiness_and_regis
>> tration_issues_111.pdf
>>
>>
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