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| Subject: | Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May |
2014
At one point, Bill Blackwell was selling a 2.5=9D red-colored aluminu
m =9Cwheel=9D with =9CGEAR=9D engraved on the front
, machined to fit CJ=99s =93 clearly different than the flap ba
ll/knob in color, size, material and shape. Not sure if it fits the Yaks.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca>
Sent: Wed, May 21, 2014 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18
May 2014
Already did that on my CJ, Alum alloy wheels (with tread) and black
nodized.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
rom: Michael B. Cavanagh
ent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:28 AM
o: yak-list@matronics.com
ubject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18
ay 2014
mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com>
Mark is right. Breaking the normal routine or being distracted can bite us
.
nother twist is that during times of distraction or multi-tasking you may
nadvertently operate a an identical looking or feeling control not even
ealizing you've done it. This is slightly off the subject of forgetting
he gear, but may prevent someone from inadvertently raising the gear on the
round. Although in different cockpit locations, the operation and
ppearance of the flap and gear controls on the YAK 52 is similar enough
hat I have modified mine so that the gear handle has a black wheel painted
o look like a wheel, and my flap control has a blue airfoil like a flap as
he handle. Visually they look completely different and tactilely they feel
ifferent. I don't want my brain to subconsciously link the two. You'd
hink it can't happen, but it can. Your brain can be a dangerous thing. I
sed hard wood to shape the new control knobs, drilled them and mounted them
ust like the or!
ginals. Before gear and flap controls were redesigned to look like wheels
nd flaps a number of airliners suffered gear retractions when a flight
rew member raised the gear thinking they were retracting the flaps. I once
xtended the Flaps on my YAK while thinking GEAR. I was distracted but
uckily got it sorted out when I reached down to extend the FLAPS and found
hem already extended. Brain Fart! I realized the two controls being nearly
dentical could cause big problems for me and decided then to make the
hanges. Brain Farts are gonna happen, and as I get older more often, so we
ry hard to control them with good training, SOPs, good design, and
hecklists. Modifying the two knobs is an easy thing to do and it may
rotect you from a publicly demonstrated brain fart. Good Luck. Blue side
p. DUCK
n May 21, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Mark Davis <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
Walt,
I'm a believer in the "those who have and those who will" on gear up
landings. I normally add "and those who will again". Checklists are
great, but distractions have a way of rearing their head on even the most
professional and astute pilots. There's a good reason every Naval Air
Station in the Training Command has a Runway Duty Officer monitoring all
landings. I personally do a landing checklist over the intercom even if
I'm solo on every landing. It's a break in the normal routine that bites
most. So far, I'm in the "those who will" category!
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18
May 2014
>
> Jim;
>
> Does that mean that everybody will do a gear up landing?
>
> Walt
>
> -----Original Message----- From: James Goolsby
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:46 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ...
> 18 May 2014
>
>
> A fact of life and aviation. NO ONE --- NO ONE, no matter their flying
> time or license in their. pocket, is safe from NOT making a gear up
> landing. And it's a fool who thinks any government can do any better.
>
> Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
>
>> On May 21, 2014, at 6:07, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
>> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>>
>> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Concur
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Bill Geipel
>> [l129bs@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:27 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ...
>> 18 May 2014
>>
>>
>> Getting instruction from an "Aerobatic" instructor will not get the gear
>> down any better
>> I would appreciate it if the FAA would not get involved in a non-event
>> like a gear up landing in a Yak. Not much damage not much of an issue.
>> Good luck fighting the government.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 21, 2014, at 13:41, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> To all the Yak listers:
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr Verhellen is at war with the airfield of Namur. That is obvious.
>>>
>>> He 'll do whatever he can to harm the airfield and the people that are
>>> based there.
>>>
>>> I try to stay out of his fight. It's none of my business but this time,
>>> and only this time, I have to react.
>>>
>>> @Etienne: KEEP YOUR PERSONAL STUFF OFF THE LIST! YOU ARE ABUSING THE
>>> LIST.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan, Yak 50, F-AZUK, based ath the Namur airfield.
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: I will not respond on eventual replies from Etienne Verhellen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 20/05/14 22:38, "Etienne Verhellen" <janie@yak52.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another Yak-52 'gear-up' landing accident in Belgium ....
>>>> [Exclamation]
>>>> [Exclamation] [Exclamation]
>>>> =======================
======================
>>>>
>>>> Sunday 18 May 2014 - Namur airfield, EBNM.
>>>>
>>>> See attached photo taken just a few moments after the crash in EBNM.
>>>>
>>>> # Yak-52 Serial No. : 822203.
>>>> http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-3
4707
>>>> /Yak-52-for-sale-34707.200.1.jpg
>>>> http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-3
4707
>>>> /
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14044351540/
>>>>
>>>> Previously UK CAA registered (G-YAKO) and maintained under the
>>>> supervision of the UK Civil Aviation Authorithy
>>>> according to the Directives from the aircraft manufacturer, the
>>>> Yakovlev
>>>> Design Bureau (YDB) regarding Life items
>>>> (Airframe, Engine, Propeller, Air bottles, Actuators, hoses, ...)
>>>> http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm
>>>> https://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/20140318MPD2002009R3.pdf
>>>> http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid
=1&mode=de
>>>> tailnosummary&fullregmark=YAKO
>>>> http://www.caa.co.uk/applicationmodules/ginfo/ginfo_photo.aspx?regmark
=G-Y
>>>> AKO&imgname=G-YAKO001&imgtype=jpg
>>>>
>>>> ... But then 'received' a Polish registration when it arrived in
>>>> Belgium
>>>> ...
>>>> (Belgian CAA Inspectors and AAIU - the 'Belgian AAIB' - have
>>>> ABSOLUTELY
>>>> NO CLUE about Yak-52) ...
>>>> RA-xxxxK, SP-YAM, F-WRUH, F-AZXK, LY-FOU, T7-xxx, ... etc etc
>>>>
>>>> At least 2 'gear up' accident for the 'pilot' of this Yak-52 :
>>>> This one and one on Saturday 4 September, 2010 ...
>>>>
>>>> # Yak-52 Serial No. : 899409 (RA-1453K then Temporary French
>>>> registration
>>>> F-WRUH)
>>>> has done at least 3 'gear-up' landings in Namur airfield EBNM, Belgium
>>>> ...
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/62861611@N08/8951700885/
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14230563495/
>>>>
>>>> So ... at least (!!!!!) ... 5 Yak-52 'gear-up' accidents at Namur
>>>> airfield in Belgium (EBNM).
>>>>
>>>> Maybe more because they do not get reported when they happen at Namur
>>>> airfield [Rolling Eyes]
>>>>
>>>> NOT a single report to Belgian CAA (DGTA) and Air Accident
>>>> Investigation
>>>> Unit (AAIU - Mr Luc Blendeman)
>>>> by the pilot or by the airfield 'commander' ...
>>>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/accidents/notificati
on/
>>>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/accid01NF_tcm467-215518.pdf
>>>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/airw09%20NF_tcm467-215537.pd
f
>>>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/aeroports/terrains/a
erod
>>>> romes/
>>>>
>>>> How come Herbert Decouvreur is still in charge as 'Commandant
>>>> d'A=C3=A9rodrome' ??
>>>> Protected by some Safety Inspectors maybe ... (Mrs Genevi=C3=A8ve Lalo
ux -
>>>> Hugo WUYTS ??)
>>>> http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/INS01NF_tcm467-215745.pdf
>>>> A lot of accidents at Namur airfield ... 19 October 2013 ... 11 people
>>>> KILLED. Something needs to be done.
>>>> Something MUST be done by the Belgian CAA before more people die.
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago there was another VERY serious Yak-52 accident that
>>>> could
>>>> have 'easily' killed 2 or 3 persons.
>>>> The Belgian AAIU was informed but NOT INTERESTED.
>>>> No accident report published although it was promissed ...
>>>> So NO LESSON learned. I am fed up with this attitude.
>>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> [Arrow] Is there an issue with the maintenance of Yaks in Belgium
>>>> [Question] YES.
>>>>
>>>> [Arrow] [Arrow] Is there an issue with the training of Yak pilots in
>>>> Belgium [Question] [Exclamation] Quite clearly YES [Shocked]
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> [Idea] Maintain your Yaks properly.
>>>>
>>>> [Idea] Get type specific training from an experienced Yak-52 Aerobatic
>>>> FI (A) Flight Instructor.
>>>>
>>>> [Idea] [Idea] Put the gear down before landing.
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_
orig
>>>> inal_363.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-
yak-
>>>> 52/
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/240525/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-
yak-
>>>> 52/
>>>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/215762/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-
yak-
>>>> 52/
>>>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-
yak-
>>>> 52/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423517#423517
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attachments:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__di
manc
>>>> he_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_800x600_150.jpg
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_arodrome_de_namur_ebnm__di
manc
>>>> he_18_mai_2014__yak_52_sp_yam__dgta__aaiu_2_743.jpg
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/yak_52_training_airworthiness_and_r
egis
>>>> tration_issues_111.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May |
2014
My opinion only..
But plenty of standard airplanes land gear up, or pull the gear up on
the ground with those different knobs. While they may help. Sometimes
we just make mistakes.
Bear
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
kingcj6@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ...
18 May 2014
At one point, Bill Blackwell was selling a 2.5=9D red-colored
aluminum =9Cwheel=9D with =9CGEAR=9D engraved on
the front, machined to fit CJ=99s =93 clearly different than
the flap ball/knob in color, size, material and shape. Not sure if it
fits the Yaks.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca <mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> >
Sent: Wed, May 21, 2014 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ...
18 May 2014
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> >
Already did that on my CJ, Alum alloy wheels (with tread) and black
anodized.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Cavanagh
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ...
18
May 2014
<mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com <mailto:mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com> >
Mark is right. Breaking the normal routine or being distracted can bite
us.
Another twist is that during times of distraction or multi-tasking you
may
inadvertently operate a an identical looking or feeling control not even
realizing you've done it. This is slightly off the subject of
forgetting
the gear, but may prevent someone from inadvertently raising the gear on
the
ground. Although in different cockpit locations, the operation and
appearance of the flap and gear controls on the YAK 52 is similar enough
that I have modified mine so that the gear handle has a black wheel
painted
to look like a wheel, and my flap control has a blue airfoil like a
flap as
the handle. Visually they look completely different and tactilely they
feel
different. I don't want my brain to subconsciously link the two. You'd
think it can't happen, but it can. Your brain can be a dangerous thing.
I
used hard wood to shape the new control knobs, drilled them and mounted
them
just like the or!
iginals. Before gear and flap controls were redesigned to look like
wheels
and flaps a number of airliners suffered gear retractions when a flight
crew member raised the gear thinking they were retracting the flaps. I
once
extended the Flaps on my YAK while thinking GEAR. I was distracted but
luckily got it sorted out when I reached down to extend the FLAPS and
found
them already extended. Brain Fart! I realized the two controls being
nearly
identical could cause big problems for me and decided then to make the
changes. Brain Farts are gonna happen, and as I get older more often, so
we
try hard to control them with good training, SOPs, good design, and
checklists. Modifying the two knobs is an easy thing to do and it may
protect you from a publicly demonstrated brain fart. Good Luck. Blue
side
up. DUCK
On May 21, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Mark Davis <markdavis@wbsnet.org
<mailto:markdavis@wbsnet.org> > wrote:
<mailto:markdavis@wbsnet.org> >
>
> Walt,
> I'm a believer in the "those who have and those who will" on gear
up
> landings. I normally add "and those who will again". Checklists are
> great, but distractions have a way of rearing their head on even the
most
> professional and astute pilots. There's a good reason every Naval Air
> Station in the Training Command has a Runway Duty Officer monitoring
all
> landings. I personally do a landing checklist over the intercom even
if
> I'm solo on every landing. It's a break in the normal routine that
bites
> most. So far, I'm in the "those who will" category!
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> >
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com> >
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium
... 18
> May 2014
>
>
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> >
>>
>> Jim;
>>
>> Does that mean that everybody will do a gear up landing?
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: James Goolsby
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:46 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium
...
>> 18 May 2014
>>
<mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com> >
>>
>> A fact of life and aviation. NO ONE --- NO ONE, no matter their
flying
>> time or license in their. pocket, is safe from NOT making a gear up
>> landing. And it's a fool who thinks any government can do any
better.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
>>
>>> On May 21, 2014, at 6:07, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
>>> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil <mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > wrote:
>>>
>>> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil <mailto:mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> >
>>>
>>> Concur
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com>
>>> [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> ] on behalf of Bill Geipel
>>> [l129bs@gmail.com <mailto:l129bs@gmail.com> ]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:27 AM
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium
...
>>> 18 May 2014
>>>
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com> >
>>>
>>> Getting instruction from an "Aerobatic" instructor will not get the
gear
>>> down any better
>>> I would appreciate it if the FAA would not get involved in a
non-event
>>> like a gear up landing in a Yak. Not much damage not much of an
issue.
>>> Good luck fighting the government.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 13:41, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be
<mailto:jan.mevis@informavia.be> > wrote:
>>>>
<mailto:jan.mevis@informavia.be> >
>>>>
>>>> To all the Yak listers:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mr Verhellen is at war with the airfield of Namur. That is obvious.
>>>>
>>>> He 'll do whatever he can to harm the airfield and the people that
are
>>>> based there.
>>>>
>>>> I try to stay out of his fight. It's none of my business but this
time,
>>>> and only this time, I have to react.
>>>>
>>>> @Etienne: KEEP YOUR PERSONAL STUFF OFF THE LIST! YOU ARE ABUSING
THE
>>>> LIST.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jan, Yak 50, F-AZUK, based ath the Namur airfield.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS: I will not respond on eventual replies from Etienne Verhellen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/05/14 22:38, "Etienne Verhellen" <janie@yak52.fr
<mailto:janie@yak52.fr> > wrote:
>>>>>
<janie@yak52.fr <mailto:janie@yak52.fr> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Another Yak-52 'gear-up' landing accident in Belgium ....
>>>>> [Exclamation]
>>>>> [Exclamation] [Exclamation]
>>>>> ====================
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunday 18 May 2014 - Namur airfield, EBNM.
>>>>>
>>>>> See attached photo taken just a few moments after the crash in
EBNM.
>>>>>
>>>>> # Yak-52 Serial No. : 822203.
>>>>>
http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-3470
7
>>>>> /Yak-52-for-sale-34707.200.1.jpg
>>>>>
http://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft-for-sale/piston/single-engine/Yak/52-3470
7
>>>>> /
>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14044351540/
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously UK CAA registered (G-YAKO) and maintained under the
>>>>> supervision of the UK Civil Aviation Authorithy
>>>>> according to the Directives from the aircraft manufacturer, the
>>>>> Yakovlev
>>>>> Design Bureau (YDB) regarding Life items
>>>>> (Airframe, Engine, Propeller, Air bottles, Actuators, hoses, ...)
>>>>> http://www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm
>>>>> https://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/20140318MPD2002009R3.pdf
>>>>> http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60
<http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1
&mode=de> &pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=de
>>>>> tailnosummary&fullregmark=YAKO
>>>>>
http://www.caa.co.uk/applicationmodules/ginfo/ginfo_photo.aspx?regmark=
G-Y
>>>>> AKO&imgname=G-YAKO001&imgtype=jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> ... But then 'received' a Polish registration when it arrived in
>>>>> Belgium
>>>>> ...
>>>>> (Belgian CAA Inspectors and AAIU - the 'Belgian AAIB' - have
>>>>> ABSOLUTELY
>>>>> NO CLUE about Yak-52) ...
>>>>> RA-xxxxK, SP-YAM, F-WRUH, F-AZXK, LY-FOU, T7-xxx, ... etc etc
>>>>>
>>>>> At least 2 'gear up' accident for the 'pilot' of this Yak-52 :
>>>>> This one and one on Saturday 4 September, 2010 ...
>>>>>
>>>>> # Yak-52 Serial No. : 899409 (RA-1453K then Temporary French
>>>>> registration
>>>>> F-WRUH)
>>>>> has done at least 3 'gear-up' landings in Namur airfield EBNM,
Belgium
>>>>> ...
>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/62861611@N08/8951700885/
>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/96986043@N08/14230563495/
>>>>>
>>>>> So ... at least (!!!!!) ... 5 Yak-52 'gear-up' accidents at Namur
>>>>> airfield in Belgium (EBNM).
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe more because they do not get reported when they happen at
Namur
>>>>> airfield [Rolling Eyes]
>>>>>
>>>>> NOT a single report to Belgian CAA (DGTA) and Air Accident
>>>>> Investigation
>>>>> Unit (AAIU - Mr Luc Blendeman)
>>>>> by the pilot or by the airfield 'commander' ...
>>>>>
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/accidents/notification/
>>>>>
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/accid01NF_tcm467-215518.pdf
>>>>>
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/airw09%20NF_tcm467-215537.pdf
>>>>>
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/transport_aerien/aeroports/terrains/aero
d
>>>>> romes/
>>>>>
>>>>> How come Herbert Decouvreur is still in charge as 'Commandant
>>>>> d'A=C3=A9rodrome' ??
>>>>> Protected by some Safety Inspectors maybe ... (Mrs Genevi=C3=A8ve
Laloux -
>>>>> Hugo WUYTS ??)
>>>>>
http://www.mobilit.belgium.be/fr/binaries/INS01NF_tcm467-215745.pdf
>>>>> A lot of accidents at Namur airfield ... 19 October 2013 ... 11
people
>>>>> KILLED. Something needs to be done.
>>>>> Something MUST be done by the Belgian CAA before more people die.
>>>>>
>>>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> A few years ago there was another VERY serious Yak-52 accident
that
>>>>> could
>>>>> have 'easily' killed 2 or 3 persons.
>>>>> The Belgian AAIU was informed but NOT INTERESTED.
>>>>> No accident report published although it was promissed ...
>>>>> So NO LESSON learned. I am fed up with this attitude.
>>>>> _____________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> [Arrow] Is there an issue with the maintenance of Yaks in Belgium
>>>>> [Question] YES.
>>>>>
>>>>> [Arrow] [Arrow] Is there an issue with the training of Yak pilots
in
>>>>> Belgium [Question] [Exclamation] Quite clearly YES [Shocked]
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>>>>> _____________________________________________
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>>>>> [Idea] Maintain your Yaks properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> [Idea] Get type specific training from an experienced Yak-52
Aerobatic
>>>>> FI (A) Flight Instructor.
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>>>>> [Idea] [Idea] Put the gear down before landing.
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_ori
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>>>>> inal_363.pdf
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>>>>> Cheers.
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http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/403690/g-cbss-private-yakovlev-yak
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>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423517#423517
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| Subject: | Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 May |
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Wheel "shmeel", ball, knob whatever. Not gonna save your ass, even close. Hell,
I flew a plane that had a button for gear up and one for gear down. Look, it
can happen to anyone, I'm sorry it happened to this guy and I'm sorry it happened
to that guy (on video) who had an absolute cherry CJ with and M-14 and big
prop....but hey, at least he got the flaps down.....
I can say without a doubt I have whipped into the break (CJ and Miltary) and did
a tight 180 to land and after landing thought I'm not sure if I ever checked
the gear. Maybe I did subconsciously, maybe not. In any case, thank God for muscle
memory and First Officers.......
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700HS
X26 Sebastian, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Another Yak-52 'gear up' accident in Belgium ... 18 |
May 201
Nobody said it would. But some pretty smart people seem to think it helps. You're
right, probably would not help you one bit.
On May 22, 2014, at 3:40 PM, keithmckinley <cetopfed@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wheel "shmeel", ball, knob whatever. Not gonna save your ass, even close. Hell,
I flew a plane that had a button for gear up and one for gear down. Look, it
can happen to anyone, I'm sorry it happened to this guy and I'm sorry it happened
to that guy (on video) who had an absolute cherry CJ with and M-14 and big
prop....but hey, at least he got the flaps down.....
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> I can say without a doubt I have whipped into the break (CJ and Miltary) and
did a tight 180 to land and after landing thought I'm not sure if I ever checked
the gear. Maybe I did subconsciously, maybe not. In any case, thank God for
muscle memory and First Officers.......
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> 700HS
> X26 Sebastian, FL
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