---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/27/14: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:30 AM - Air Filter Dessicant (Okanogan Lew) 2. 08:54 AM - Re: Air Filter Dessicant (Warren Hill) 3. 10:12 AM - Re: Air Filter Dessicant (Walter Lannon) 4. 10:54 AM - Re: Air Filter Dessicant (doug sapp) 5. 11:09 AM - Re: Air Filter Desiccant (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) 6. 11:14 AM - Re: Air Filter Desiccant (KingCJ6@aol.com) 7. 11:20 AM - Re: Air Filter Desiccant (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) 8. 04:32 PM - Re: Air Filter Dessicant (Paul Lewis) 9. 08:46 PM - Re: Air Filter Dessicant (Walter Lannon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:00 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant From: "Okanogan Lew" Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant From: Warren Hill Here in the desert southwest, things are probably less humid than other locations, but I have used this in the air-water separator for my CJ for years with no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/silica-gel.php?clickkey=24657 I typically change it every six months. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: > > Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:18 AM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant One would think that the MIL Spec dessicant from AC Spruce should be OK. However in the deyhdrator plug application (stored, non operating engine) it would not be subject to any significant oil contamination. Is oil contamination a factor?? I expect that most of the compressors on our engines are worn enough to emit a fair amount of oil. Paul, is this the product you were using? Walt -----Original Message----- From: Warren Hill Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Here in the desert southwest, things are probably less humid than other locations, but I have used this in the air-water separator for my CJ for years with no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/silica-gel.php?clickkey=24657 I typically change it every six months. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: > > Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for > the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a > word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant From: doug sapp Also of some interest is the fact that when I ordered the blue desiccant from the factory I was informed that the EPA has ordained that the blue stuff is not good for us anymore so they could not sell it to me. I guess Spruce never got the message (or has a bunch of old stock). Anyway, the current opinion by those who look out for us is that the orange (turns to grey/green) is safe for us to use, guess the blue stuff killed their rats. Just kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy all over knowing that these folks are looking out for us. I saw Paul's filter and it could not have been more "caked up" if you had poured it full of Plaster of Paris. The stuff was white and harder than a rock. Best, Doug On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Walter Lannon wrote: > > One would think that the MIL Spec dessicant from AC Spruce should be OK. > However in the deyhdrator plug application (stored, non operating engine) > it would not be subject to any significant oil contamination. > Is oil contamination a factor?? I expect that most of the compressors on > our engines are worn enough to emit a fair amount of oil. > Paul, is this the product you were using? > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- From: Warren Hill > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:53 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant > > > > Here in the desert southwest, things are probably less humid than other > locations, but I have used this in the air-water separator for my CJ for > years with no problems. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/silica-gel. > php?clickkey=24657 > > I typically change it every six months. > > Warren Hill > N464TW > Mesa, AZ > > > On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: > >> >> Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for >> the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a >> word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:35 AM PST US From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Air Filter Desiccant I think that it was determined that if you ate 3 pounds of blue desiccant, and swallowed a quart of oil at the same time, your health would be at risk 20 years later, plus it would impact Global Warming. Good to know. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Also of some interest is the fact that when I ordered the blue desiccant from the factory I was informed that the EPA has ordained that the blue stuff is not good for us anymore so they could not sell it to me. I guess Spruce never got the message (or has a bunch of old stock). Anyway, the current opinion by those who look out for us is that the orange (turns to grey/green) is safe for us to use, guess the blue stuff killed their rats. Just kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy all over knowing that these folks are looking out for us. I saw Paul's filter and it could not have been more "caked up" if you had poured it full of Plaster of Paris. The stuff was white and harder than a rock. Best, Doug On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Walter Lannon wrote: One would think that the MIL Spec dessicant from AC Spruce should be OK. However in the deyhdrator plug application (stored, non operating engine) it would not be subject to any significant oil contamination. Is oil contamination a factor?? I expect that most of the compressors on our engines are worn enough to emit a fair amount of oil. Paul, is this the product you were using? Walt -----Original Message----- From: Warren Hill Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:53 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Here in the desert southwest, things are probably less humid than other locations, but I have used this in the air-water separator for my CJ for years with no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/silica-gel.php?clickkey=24657 I typically change it every six months. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 =================================== target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List =================================== MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:50 AM PST US From: KingCJ6@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Desiccant Would swallowing a quart of MMO have the same effect? In a message dated 6/27/2014 11:09:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes: I think that it was determined that if you ate 3 pounds of blue desiccant, and swallowed a quart of oil at the same time, your health would be at risk 20 years later, plus it would impact Global Warming. Good to know. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Also of some interest is the fact that when I ordered the blue desiccant from the factory I was informed that the EPA has ordained that the blue stuff is not good for us anymore so they could not sell it to me. I guess Spruce never got the message (or has a bunch of old stock). Anyway, the current opinion by those who look out for us is that the orange (turns to grey/green) is safe for us to use, guess the blue stuff killed their rats. Just kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy all over knowing that these folks are looking out for us. I saw Paul's filter and it could not have been more "caked up" if you had poured it full of Plaster of Paris. The stuff was white and harder than a rock. Best, Doug On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Walter Lannon wrote: One would think that the MIL Spec dessicant from AC Spruce should be OK. However in the deyhdrator plug application (stored, non operating engine) it would not be subject to any significant oil contamination. Is oil contamination a factor?? I expect that most of the compressors on our engines are worn enough to emit a fair amount of oil. Paul, is this the product you were using? Walt -----Original Message----- From: Warren Hill Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Here in the desert southwest, things are probably less humid than other locations, but I have used this in the air-water separator for my CJ for years with no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/silica-gel.php?clickkey=24657 I typically change it every six months. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 =================================== target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List =================================== MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:04 AM PST US From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Air Filter Desiccant No. That would only lubricate your top end. Of course the bottom end is also important and it might help there as well. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KingCJ6@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Desiccant Would swallowing a quart of MMO have the same effect? In a message dated 6/27/2014 11:09:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes: I think that it was determined that if you ate 3 pounds of blue desiccant, and swallowed a quart of oil at the same time, your health would be at risk 20 years later, plus it would impact Global Warming. Good to know. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:54 PM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Also of some interest is the fact that when I ordered the blue desiccant from the factory I was informed that the EPA has ordained that the blue stuff is not good for us anymore so they could not sell it to me. I guess Spruce never got the message (or has a bunch of old stock). Anyway, the current opinion by those who look out for us is that the orange (turns to grey/green) is safe for us to use, guess the blue stuff killed their rats. Just kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy all over knowing that these folks are looking out for us. I saw Paul's filter and it could not have been more "caked up" if you had poured it full of Plaster of Paris. The stuff was white and harder than a rock. Best, Doug On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Walter Lannon wrote: One would think that the MIL Spec dessicant from AC Spruce should be OK. However in the deyhdrator plug application (stored, non operating engine) it would not be subject to any significant oil contamination. Is oil contamination a factor?? I expect that most of the compressors on our engines are worn enough to emit a fair amount of oil. Paul, is this the product you were using? Walt -----Original Message----- From: Warren Hill Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:53 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Here in the desert southwest, things are probably less humid than other locations, but I have used this in the air-water separator for my CJ for years with no problems. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/silica-gel.php?clickkey=24657 I typically change it every six months. Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 =================================== target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List =================================== MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant From: Paul Lewis Walt, I use Castor oil as a lubricant per Doug's recommendation. Never had a problem before with the correct dessicant On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: > > Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for > the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a > word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425584#425584 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:25 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Hi Paul; I was referring to the possibility of contamination with engine oil which can happen with a high time compressor. I contacted a desiccant company for advice. They indicated that Activated Alumina rather than Silica Gel was the best choice if oil vapors are present. The specs suggest that it has a better absorption rate than Silica Gel particularly with high subject air temperatures as we would have. However is not available as an indicating (color change) desiccant. Whether it can be dried and reused I have yet to determine. Walt From: Paul Lewis Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Air Filter Dessicant Walt, I use Castor oil as a lubricant per Doug's recommendation. Never had a problem before with the correct dessicant On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Okanogan Lew wrote: Guys, I used an after market dessicant in Doug's in line air filter for the CJ6. The stuff turned to a solid & totally plug the filter. So, a word to the wise to use only Doug's recommended dessicant. 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