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Thu 07/24/14


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 02:55 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (Rob Rowe)
     2. 02:58 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (aerostar6)
     3. 03:09 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (Rob Rowe)
     4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
     5. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (DaBear)
     6. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (Kregg Victory)
     7. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
     8. 01:04 PM - Re: Yak gear/flap indicator bulbs (Chris Ober)
     9. 03:11 PM - Aeroshell 120 (Okanogan Lew)
    10. 04:08 PM - Recomanded overhaul shop! (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:55:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    From: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
    Don't have a source for you, but you'll also need to factor whether this is for a -50 or a -52. As the tacho generators are different, DTE-1 & DTE-2 respectively. The suffix denotes the number of cockpit displays that can be driven. Speculate that a -2 might work OK in a -50, but doubt a -1 would drive both cockpits in a -52. Hope this helps, Rob R Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427260#427260


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    Time: 02:58:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    From: "aerostar6" <mwlevy@btinternet.com>
    It's for my 50, so presume either would work? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427261#427261


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    Time: 03:09:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    From: "Rob Rowe" <yak-list@robrowe.plus.com>
    aerostar6 wrote: > It's for my 50, so presume either would work? Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants of tacho generator. So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the tacho display motor? So you might fix one problem just to create another. Better to source a DTE-1 if possible. Rob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427262#427262


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    Time: 07:17:44 AM PST US
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    I have used both in my 50. Currently it has the DTE-2 installed. So I can at least verify it works, and it has not burnt out the display indicator yet. Possibly just less voltage sag with increased current draw? Don't know. Anyway yeah, I see you're point, and it probably would be better to stick with what the Russians intended. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:09 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator aerostar6 wrote: > It's for my 50, so presume either would work? Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants of tacho generator. So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the tacho display motor? So you might fix one problem just to create another. Better to source a DTE-1 if possible. Rob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427262#427262


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    Time: 07:45:43 AM PST US
    From: "DaBear" <dabear@damned.org>
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    If you have a large (3") hole in the panel you could use the horizon digital tach. Works great on the M14P and will immediately tell you if you are running on only 1 mag. (it constantly checks the difference between the two mags. http://www.horizoninstruments.com/ Bear -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:16 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator --> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> I have used both in my 50. Currently it has the DTE-2 installed. So I can at least verify it works, and it has not burnt out the display indicator yet. Possibly just less voltage sag with increased current draw? Don't know. Anyway yeah, I see you're point, and it probably would be better to stick with what the Russians intended. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:09 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator aerostar6 wrote: > It's for my 50, so presume either would work? Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants of tacho generator. So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the tacho display motor? So you might fix one problem just to create another. Better to source a DTE-1 if possible. Rob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427262#427262


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    Time: 08:01:12 AM PST US
    From: "Kregg Victory" <kregg@balancemyprop.com>
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    I have a tach generator Kregg Victory Victory Aero 2502 John Montgomery Dr. San Jose, CA 95148 408-836-5122 www.victoryhangar.com www.balancemyprop.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:55 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator Don't have a source for you, but you'll also need to factor whether this is for a -50 or a -52. As the tacho generators are different, DTE-1 & DTE-2 respectively. The suffix denotes the number of cockpit displays that can be driven. Speculate that a -2 might work OK in a -50, but doubt a -1 would drive both cockpits in a -52. Hope this helps, Rob R Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427260#427260


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    Time: 08:13:12 AM PST US
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Subject: Re: M14P tacho generator
    Bear, I have installed and used this Tach on a number of different M-14 equipped aircraft and it works well, but one caution needs to be mentioned. The P-1000 Tach connects to the P Leads of both mags which are a HUGE source of broad band energy. This energy can, and will, interfere with VHF radios in a big way if extreme care is not taken to shield the wiring properly. And even then.... keep in mind that not all radios are created equally when it comes to how much they are impacted by such noise. The small lightweight Becker radios come to mind as a series that is extremely susceptible to this kind of interference, and in every case where a Becker was involved, the owner needed to either abandon the P-1000 Tach, or change to another model of radio. After having spent hours trying to get rid of this noise on some airplanes that are susceptible as mentioned, I personally decided that although this is a really cool Tach, I'll stick with the Russian design. On the same token, I must also mention that I saw one Russian radio that had the front RF stage blown out by a guy who butchered the shielding to the Russian Tach Drive! So .... Not bad mouthing the P-1000 in any way, and it also must be kept in mind that some of the Becker radios were originally designed for Gliders and were kept very small and light, which means less robust internal shielding, etc. Just need to be careful not to combine gasoline with a match, so to speak... when dealing with this model Tach. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaBear Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator If you have a large (3") hole in the panel you could use the horizon digital tach. Works great on the M14P and will immediately tell you if you are running on only 1 mag. (it constantly checks the difference between the two mags. http://www.horizoninstruments.com/ Bear -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:16 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator --> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> I have used both in my 50. Currently it has the DTE-2 installed. So I can at least verify it works, and it has not burnt out the display indicator yet. Possibly just less voltage sag with increased current draw? Don't know. Anyway yeah, I see you're point, and it probably would be better to stick with what the Russians intended. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:09 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator aerostar6 wrote: > It's for my 50, so presume either would work? Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants of tacho generator. So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the tacho display motor? So you might fix one problem just to create another. Better to source a DTE-1 if possible. Rob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427262#427262


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    Time: 01:04:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak gear/flap indicator bulbs
    From: Chris Ober <christopherjober@gmail.com>
    BA9S-G4-32-28VAC Green 32 Degree 28V BA9S-R4-32-28VAC Red 32 Degree 28V So I ordered these from SuperBrightLeds.com and after receiving my order I c ame to the sad conclusion that these are not the right bulb. Like I said I h ave a YAK, a 52 to be precise. I assume you guys are using them in something else being that these are twice the size as the correct bulb. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote: Good to know. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com> wrote: > > I know I'm hopping in without completely reading the thread: > > In case anyone's interested, have the direct replacement LED indicators fo r $10.25 ea. > Yes they're expensive, but you'll only ever need to to replace them once . > > We also have piles and piles of the standard indicators for about $3.25 ea . > > Cliff > > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark .bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: .bitterlich@navy.mil> >> >> Ok... just to be clear, please forgive me for not being able to trace thi s thread. >> >> For the YAK right? Not the CJ? >> >> Mark >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez >> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:32 PM >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak gear/flap indicator bulbs >> >> Yep, >> >> In the plane and working great >> >> On Monday, July 21, 2014, Chris Ober <christopherjober@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Ernie have you purchased these? Has anyone else? If so are you sa tisfied with fit and performance? >> >> Chris >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com < javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','erniel29@gmail.com');> > wrote: >> >> >> Sorry my first post didn't format properly. >> >> SuperBrightLeds.com >> >> BA9S-G4-32-28VAC Green 32 Degree 28V >> >> BA9S-R4-32-28VAC Red 32 Degree 28V >> >> >> >> Ernie >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tbohlman@gmail.com');> > wrote: >> >> >> Ha! Thanks for that Shaun. >> It will be interesting to see if anyone else pipes up wit h the actual source ;-) >> >> Hope you had a great weekend, >> Todd >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Shaun Dawson <scdawson@g mail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','scdawson@gmail.com');> > wrote: >> >> >> Here are some LED ones. >> >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Small-Light-Bulbs-Russian -A-C-Annunciators-and-Panels-/190264807651?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&v xp=mtr&hash=item2c4caa90e3 >> >> >> Shaun >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Chris Ober <chri stopherjober@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christopherjober@gmail. com');> > wrote: >> >> r <christopherjober@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christopherjober @gmail.com');> > >> >> Does anyone know the standard bulb type o r the led equivalent for the yak? I've see discussions about the CJ's and se veral different part #'s are being listed. Anyone have an actual source AND p art #? >> >> Chris Ober >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> ========== >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> MS - >> k">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> e - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? Yak-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> MS - >> k">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> e - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== > > > > -- > Clifford Coy > Border Air Ltd. > 629 Airport Rd. > Swanton, VT 05488 > 802-868-2822 TEL > 802-868-4465 FAX > Skype: Cliff.Coy > <IMG_7133.JPG>


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    Time: 03:11:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Aeroshell 120
    From: "Okanogan Lew" <vplewis@community.org>
    guys, I have 4 gallons of Aeroshell 120 (60 wt) for sale. $75.00 plus shipping. Contact me off list Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427306#427306


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    Time: 04:08:57 PM PST US
    From: =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?= <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
    Subject: Recomanded overhaul shop!
    Consider to take my M-14 for a rebuild. Could I Get opinions/ experience on what shop to use? BR Havard Norway Sendt fra min iPhone 4S > Den 24. juli 2014 kl. 09:03 skrev Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.com>: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-07-23&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 14-07-23&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 07/23/14: 6 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:31 AM - Re: CM-28 bulbs for Yaks (Rob Rowe) > 2. 05:59 AM - M14P tacho generator (aerostar6) > 3. 11:21 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)




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