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1. 02:55 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (Rob Rowe)
2. 02:58 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (aerostar6)
3. 03:09 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (Rob Rowe)
4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (DaBear)
6. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (Kregg Victory)
7. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: M14P tacho generator (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
8. 01:04 PM - Re: Yak gear/flap indicator bulbs (Chris Ober)
9. 03:11 PM - Aeroshell 120 (Okanogan Lew)
10. 04:08 PM - Recomanded overhaul shop! (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
Don't have a source for you, but you'll also need to factor whether this is for
a -50 or a -52.
As the tacho generators are different, DTE-1 & DTE-2 respectively.
The suffix denotes the number of cockpit displays that can be driven.
Speculate that a -2 might work OK in a -50, but doubt a -1 would drive both cockpits
in a -52.
Hope this helps, Rob R
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
It's for my 50, so presume either would work?
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
aerostar6 wrote:
> It's for my 50, so presume either would work?
Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians
predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants
of tacho generator.
So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the
tacho display motor?
So you might fix one problem just to create another.
Better to source a DTE-1 if possible.
Rob
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
I have used both in my 50. Currently it has the DTE-2 installed. So I can at
least verify it works, and it has not burnt out the display indicator yet.
Possibly just less voltage sag with increased current draw? Don't know.
Anyway yeah, I see you're point, and it probably would be better to stick with
what the Russians intended.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:09 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
aerostar6 wrote:
> It's for my 50, so presume either would work?
Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians
predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants
of tacho generator.
So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the
tacho display motor?
So you might fix one problem just to create another.
Better to source a DTE-1 if possible.
Rob
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
If you have a large (3") hole in the panel you could use the horizon digital
tach. Works great on the M14P and will immediately tell you if you are
running on only 1 mag. (it constantly checks the difference between the two
mags. http://www.horizoninstruments.com/
Bear
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV NAVAIR, WD
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
--> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I have used both in my 50. Currently it has the DTE-2 installed. So I can
at least verify it works, and it has not burnt out the display indicator
yet.
Possibly just less voltage sag with increased current draw? Don't know.
Anyway yeah, I see you're point, and it probably would be better to stick
with what the Russians intended.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:09 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
aerostar6 wrote:
> It's for my 50, so presume either would work?
Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that
the Russians predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in
two variants of tacho generator.
So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it
overdrives the tacho display motor?
So you might fix one problem just to create another.
Better to source a DTE-1 if possible.
Rob
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427262#427262
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
I have a tach generator
Kregg Victory
Victory Aero
2502 John Montgomery Dr.
San Jose, CA 95148
408-836-5122
www.victoryhangar.com
www.balancemyprop.com
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:55 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
Don't have a source for you, but you'll also need to factor whether this is
for a -50 or a -52.
As the tacho generators are different, DTE-1 & DTE-2 respectively.
The suffix denotes the number of cockpit displays that can be driven.
Speculate that a -2 might work OK in a -50, but doubt a -1 would drive both
cockpits in a -52.
Hope this helps, Rob R
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427260#427260
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Subject: | Re: M14P tacho generator |
Bear, I have installed and used this Tach on a number of different M-14 equipped
aircraft and it works well, but one caution needs to be mentioned.
The P-1000 Tach connects to the P Leads of both mags which are a HUGE source of
broad band energy. This energy can, and will, interfere with VHF radios in
a big way if extreme care is not taken to shield the wiring properly.
And even then.... keep in mind that not all radios are created equally when it
comes to how much they are impacted by such noise. The small lightweight Becker
radios come to mind as a series that is extremely susceptible to this kind
of interference, and in every case where a Becker was involved, the owner needed
to either abandon the P-1000 Tach, or change to another model of radio.
After having spent hours trying to get rid of this noise on some airplanes that
are susceptible as mentioned, I personally decided that although this is a really
cool Tach, I'll stick with the Russian design.
On the same token, I must also mention that I saw one Russian radio that had the
front RF stage blown out by a guy who butchered the shielding to the Russian
Tach Drive! So ....
Not bad mouthing the P-1000 in any way, and it also must be kept in mind that
some of the Becker radios were originally designed for Gliders and were kept very
small and light, which means less robust internal shielding, etc.
Just need to be careful not to combine gasoline with a match, so to speak... when
dealing with this model Tach.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaBear
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
If you have a large (3") hole in the panel you could use the horizon digital tach.
Works great on the M14P and will immediately tell you if you are running
on only 1 mag. (it constantly checks the difference between the two
mags. http://www.horizoninstruments.com/
Bear
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
--> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I have used both in my 50. Currently it has the DTE-2 installed. So I can at
least verify it works, and it has not burnt out the display indicator yet.
Possibly just less voltage sag with increased current draw? Don't know.
Anyway yeah, I see you're point, and it probably would be better to stick with
what the Russians intended.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowe
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:09 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: M14P tacho generator
aerostar6 wrote:
> It's for my 50, so presume either would work?
Hmmm ... having reflected on this for a while longer it occurs to me that the Russians
predilection for one-size-fits-all would not have resulted in two variants
of tacho generator.
So fitting a DTE-2 in a -50 might work, but for how long before it overdrives the
tacho display motor?
So you might fix one problem just to create another.
Better to source a DTE-1 if possible.
Rob
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427262#427262
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Subject: | Re: Yak gear/flap indicator bulbs |
BA9S-G4-32-28VAC Green 32 Degree 28V
BA9S-R4-32-28VAC Red 32 Degree 28V
So I ordered these from SuperBrightLeds.com and after receiving my order I c
ame to the sad conclusion that these are not the right bulb. Like I said I h
ave a YAK, a 52 to be precise. I assume you guys are using them in something
else being that these are twice the size as the correct bulb.
Chris
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 22, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote:
Good to know.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know I'm hopping in without completely reading the thread:
>
> In case anyone's interested, have the direct replacement LED indicators fo
r $10.25 ea.
> Yes they're expensive, but you'll only ever need to to replace them once
.
>
> We also have piles and piles of the standard indicators for about $3.25 ea
.
>
> Cliff
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark
.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Ok... just to be clear, please forgive me for not being able to trace thi
s thread.
>>
>> For the YAK right? Not the CJ?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez
>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:32 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak gear/flap indicator bulbs
>>
>> Yep,
>>
>> In the plane and working great
>>
>> On Monday, July 21, 2014, Chris Ober <christopherjober@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ernie have you purchased these? Has anyone else? If so are you sa
tisfied with fit and performance?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com <
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','erniel29@gmail.com');> > wrote:
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>>
>> Sorry my first post didn't format properly.
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>> SuperBrightLeds.com
>>
>> BA9S-G4-32-28VAC Green 32 Degree 28V
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>> BA9S-R4-32-28VAC Red 32 Degree 28V
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>>
>>
>> Ernie
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>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Todd Bohlman <tbohlman@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tbohlman@gmail.com');> > wrote:
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>>
>> Ha! Thanks for that Shaun.
>> It will be interesting to see if anyone else pipes up wit
h the actual source ;-)
>>
>> Hope you had a great weekend,
>> Todd
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Shaun Dawson <scdawson@g
mail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','scdawson@gmail.com');> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Here are some LED ones.
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Small-Light-Bulbs-Russian
-A-C-Annunciators-and-Panels-/190264807651?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&v
xp=mtr&hash=item2c4caa90e3
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>>
>> Shaun
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>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Chris Ober <chri
stopherjober@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christopherjober@gmail.
com');> > wrote:
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r <christopherjober@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christopherjober
@gmail.com');> >
>>
>> Does anyone know the standard bulb type o
r the led equivalent for the yak? I've see discussions about the CJ's and se
veral different part #'s are being listed. Anyone have an actual source AND p
art #?
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>> Chris Ober
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guys, I have 4 gallons of Aeroshell 120 (60 wt) for sale. $75.00 plus shipping.
Contact me off list
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Subject: | Recomanded overhaul shop! |
Consider to take my M-14 for a rebuild.
Could I Get opinions/ experience on what shop to use?
BR
Havard
Norway
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> 1. 03:31 AM - Re: CM-28 bulbs for Yaks (Rob Rowe)
> 2. 05:59 AM - M14P tacho generator (aerostar6)
> 3. 11:21 AM - Re: M14P tacho generator (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
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