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1. 12:14 PM - Re: Program Letter (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
2. 12:37 PM - Re: Program Letter (Ernest Martinez)
3. 02:18 PM - Russian retreads (Pilotdog57)
4. 07:29 PM - Re: Program Letter (billygeipel)
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"Our idea of a good time is making sure you don't have one. "
A quote I suspect applies to many government agencies.
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of billygeipel
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Program Letter
5 FSDO's 40 experimental/exhibition imports certified.
But I guess you never know. Ernie got the guy who wanted to make a name for himself.
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On Sep 8, 2014, at 23:26, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
I agree, I got the information on 8130.2G from the EAA Website. I replied
to the FSDO with precisely what the FAA order prescribes, and referred to the
appropriate chapter and verse, which supports my position.
Ernie
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
wrote:
Bill, not trying to debate the issue, and your mileage may vary
depending on what FSDO you are dealing with, but it has been my experience to
NEVER ask the FAA what they want. No really, not EVER. You may get the shock
of your life when they give you an answer you never expected and subsequently
you are now in a position where you either have to comply or debate the issue.
Debating with the FAA is never a good idea.
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| Subject: | Re: Program Letter |
In the end everything worked out fine, the FSDO guy called me this morning
and was quite pleasant. He did point out an error on my existing Ops
Limits, which had my CJ categorized as a Group III aircraft (>12,500lbs and
>800 HP). Otherwise he started out wanting my Chief mechanics name, and my
Approved Maintenance plan, and other items which did not apply. Once I
walked him through the order and explained that my aircraft did not require
a maintenance plan, and that I was a group II aircraft, and that I did not
need to provide all the items listed in "Initial Certification" and that I
was no longer in Phase I, and that I was not asking for a change in my Ops
Limits, he agreed with everything and we were done.
Sometimes it just takes a little patience, something I'm not known for :)
Ernie
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
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> "Our idea of a good time is making sure you don't have one. "
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> A quote I suspect applies to many government agencies.
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| Subject: | Russian retreads |
I stopped by Dresser tire and dropped off some tires to be recapped. While there
I specifically brought up the issue of retreading the Russian 500-150 tires.
The salesman went to the supervisor and returned with a reply that they WILL recap
the Russian tires. They do inspect them for defects, just like any other tire
they might potentially recap, and claim they noticed a higher reject rate
for the Russian Vs Chinese carcasses.
They have a data sheet on their website that shows the inspection for non qualifying
tires- maybe a good thing to do before sending in your tires.
Doug Z
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| Subject: | Re: Program Letter |
Like I said, ask him or help to educate them. They will actually help you. B
ut if you go in with the "attitude" then it's never going to work. Like it o
r not, these folks hold the key to your airplane. So getting along is always
a good thing. Don't you think? 40 certifications with no problems. One FSDO
asked if they could come and watch a gear swing so they could understand wh
at they were looking at. Education crosses a lot of bridges. However, there w
ill always be one of those not so sweet apples in the bunch. Just like there
are some not so sweet apples in our pilot bunch.
Glad it worked out Ernie.
Bill
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> On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:35, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In the end everything worked out fine, the FSDO guy called me this morning
and was quite pleasant. He did point out an error on my existing Ops Limits
, which had my CJ categorized as a Group III aircraft (>12,500lbs and >800 H
P). Otherwise he started out wanting my Chief mechanics name, and my Approve
d Maintenance plan, and other items which did not apply. Once I walked him t
hrough the order and explained that my aircraft did not require a maintenanc
e plan, and that I was a group II aircraft, and that I did not need to provi
de all the items listed in "Initial Certification" and that I was no longer i
n Phase I, and that I was not asking for a change in my Ops Limits, he agree
d with everything and we were done.
>
> Sometimes it just takes a little patience, something I'm not known for :)
>
> Ernie
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>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.b
itterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
.bitterlich@navy.mil>
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>> "Our idea of a good time is making sure you don't have one. "
>>
>> A quote I suspect applies to many government agencies.
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