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1. 05:18 AM - Re: Yask 52 TD (Jill Gernetzke)
2. 11:21 AM - loss of main air (Philip Nicholson)
3. 11:30 AM - Re: loss of main air (doug sapp)
4. 11:33 AM - Re: loss of main air (KingCJ6@aol.com)
5. 11:36 AM - Re: loss of main air (Rico Jaeger)
6. 12:09 PM - Re: loss of main air (Ernest Martinez)
7. 12:30 PM - Re: loss of main air (Tom Elliott)
8. 01:39 PM - Re: CJ6 conversion to M-14P: What RPM Gage? (airmanv2)
9. 01:41 PM - Re: PARTS CLEAROUT (airmanv2)
10. 05:46 PM - Re: loss of main air (William Geipel)
11. 07:43 PM - loss of main air (Mike Holoman)
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Group,
I was offered the rights and data by Termikas to build the TDs over here for
$100,000, last August. Who wants to pony up? : ) Parts and labor are
additional.
Jill
M-14P, Inc.
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| Subject: | loss of main air |
Hello,
I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recently. No
issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
A month later, and three flights in a row, I have not been able to generate
over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land, I bleed off an additional
five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and Main air open, I
use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no hissing whatsoever.
Also of note, my snot valve after landing has little to no pressure. Goo
just slowly drips/oozes out.
Any thoughts on where to start?
Thanks,
Phil Nicholson
CJ6A - C-FEPN
pednicholson@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: loss of main air |
Phil,
Check:
1. Remove the needle valve from your snot valve, it is probably rusty
and your pump cannot keep up with the leak.
2. If not the above check the alu crush washers on the banjo fitting on
the compressor. we have a kit for that..........
3. Check the line going from the compressor to the snot valve for cracks.
Give me a call if I can help, but my money is on #1.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello,
> I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recently. No
> issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
> A month later, and three flights in a row, I have not been able to
> generate over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land, I bleed off an
> additional five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and Main
> air open, I use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no hissing
> whatsoever. Also of note, my snot valve after landing has little to no
> pressure. Goo just slowly drips/oozes out.
> Any thoughts on where to start?
> Thanks,
> Phil Nicholson
> CJ6A - C-FEPN
> pednicholson@gmail.com
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: loss of main air |
Check the spring on your snot valve , make sure it is holding the valve
fully closed.
Dave
In a message dated 10/27/2014 11:21:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pednicholson@gmail.com writes:
Hello,
I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recently. No
issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
A month later, and three flights in a row, I have not been able to
generate over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land, I bleed off an
additional five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and Main air open,
I use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no hissing whatsoever.
Also of note, my snot valve after landing has little to no pressure. Goo
just slowly drips/oozes out.
Any thoughts on where to start?
Thanks,
Phil Nicholson
CJ6A - C-FEPN
_pednicholson@gmail.com_ (mailto:pednicholson@gmail.com)
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| Subject: | loss of main air |
Phil=2C
You are going to receive a plethora of responses to this question=2C but...
just out of curiosity=2C have you checked the condition of your in-line air
filter? Are you confident your compressor is producing air? The massive le
ak w/ no audible hiss is one thing=2C but stagnant pressure gauge / minimal
release from the snot pot would seem to indicate the possibility that litt
le to no air is 1) being generated=2C or 2) is not allowed to pass to the b
ottle due to a blockage.
Just my $.02. GOOD LUCK as I have spent oodles of hours on this exact issue
. Please feel free to contact me directly=2C or on-list any time!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau=2C WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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N21YK //Hangar #21 / AUW
Subject: Yak-List: loss of main air
From: pednicholson@gmail.com
Hello=2C I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recent
ly. No issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.A month
later=2C and three flights in a row=2C I have not been able to generate ove
r 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land=2C I bleed off an additional
five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and Main air open=2C I
use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no hissing whatsoever. A
lso of note=2C my snot valve after landing has little to no pressure. Goo
just slowly drips/oozes out.Any thoughts on where to start?Thanks=2CPhil Ni
cholsonCJ6A - C-FEPNpednicholson@gmail.com=0A
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| Subject: | Re: loss of main air |
I would start with your snot valve. It may be leaking. I found that the
snot valve in the belly can also leak, and not allow the system to build
pressure. I had the problem and could not hear any leaking.
If that doesn't do it then its a slow process of elimination. Attach a
scuba bottle, with the main air valve closed, and make sure you can hear
the pop off valve fart at the desired pressure, mine is set at 40 bar since
I don't like pushing my air bottles. Then it's a matter of soapy water on
all the joints, and look for the leak.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello,
> I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recently. No
> issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
> A month later, and three flights in a row, I have not been able to
> generate over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land, I bleed off an
> additional five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and Main
> air open, I use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no hissing
> whatsoever. Also of note, my snot valve after landing has little to no
> pressure. Goo just slowly drips/oozes out.
> Any thoughts on where to start?
> Thanks,
> Phil Nicholson
> CJ6A - C-FEPN
> pednicholson@gmail.com
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | loss of main air |
I would also remove and clean the output check valve on the compressor.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
89019
Cell 541-297-5497
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: loss of main air
Phil,
Check:
1. Remove the needle valve from your snot valve, it is probably rusty
and your pump cannot keep up with the leak.
2. If not the above check the alu crush washers on the banjo fitting on
the compressor. we have a kit for that..........
3. Check the line going from the compressor to the snot valve for
cracks.
Give me a call if I can help, but my money is on #1.
Doug
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Philip Nicholson
<pednicholson@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recently.
No issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
A month later, and three flights in a row, I have not been able to
generate over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land, I bleed off
an additional five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and
Main air open, I use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no
hissing whatsoever. Also of note, my snot valve after landing has
little to no pressure. Goo just slowly drips/oozes out.
Any thoughts on where to start?
Thanks,
Phil Nicholson
CJ6A - C-FEPN
pednicholson@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6 conversion to M-14P: What RPM Gage? |
[quote="dougsappllc(at)gmail.com"]Scott/Byron,I have a brand new T-30, still in
the box, I bought 5, used 4 of them in other aircraft. Am tired of looking at
this one setting on my desk. Retail $160.00 I think. First $110.00 takes it.
Doug
Hi Doug, if not sold I will be interested if convenient for CJ6 and Housai
Bruno (France)
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| Subject: | Re: PARTS CLEAROUT |
Hi ,
have you a list for CJ6?
Bruno
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| Subject: | Re: loss of main air |
snot valve not seating properly.
On Oct 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello,
> I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valve recently.
No issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
> A month later, and three flights in a row, I have not been able to
generate over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land, I bleed off
an additional five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and
Main air open, I use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no
hissing whatsoever. Also of note, my snot valve after landing has
little to no pressure. Goo just slowly drips/oozes out.
> Any thoughts on where to start?
> Thanks,
> Phil Nicholson
> CJ6A - C-FEPN
> pednicholson@gmail.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | loss of main air |
If You are losing air from the compressor to the snot valve=2C you need to
look for a leak starting at the banjo fitting=2C flare fittings at both end
s of your steel line and or your check valve leaving your compressor that c
an be plugged up. Any one or a combination of the above mentioned has to be
the problem if otherwise your system is holding pressure.
Good luck=2C Mike
From: l129bs@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: loss of main air
snot valve not seating properly.
On Oct 28=2C 2014=2C at 3:19 AM=2C Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com
> wrote:Hello=2C I have replaced my main air valve and flap handle valv
e recently. No issues immediately thereafter. Air system behaved normally.
A month later=2C and three flights in a row=2C I have not been able to gene
rate over 30 bars. It just stays there. When I land=2C I bleed off an add
itional five with flaps and brakes etc. With the engine off and Main air o
pen=2C I use an external tank to fill to 50 bars. I hear no hissing whatso
ever. Also of note=2C my snot valve after landing has little to no pressur
e. Goo just slowly drips/oozes out.Any thoughts on where to start?Thanks
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