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1. 04:46 AM - Re: Propeller cycle and pitch issue (Richard Goode)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Propeller cycle and pitch issue (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
4. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
5. 11:08 AM - Re: Propeller cycle and pitch issue (Trond)
6. 12:39 PM - Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 (Bill1200)
7. 01:09 PM - Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 (barryhancock)
8. 01:12 PM - Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 (barryhancock)
9. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 (Gordon Price)
10. 01:45 PM - WTB: Yak-52 (Younus Aftab)
11. 02:49 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Byron Fox)
12. 04:51 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (bill geipel)
13. 05:08 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (doug sapp)
14. 05:42 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Byron Fox)
15. 06:03 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (William Geipel)
16. 06:46 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Roger Kemp)
17. 06:49 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Roger Kemp)
18. 06:55 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Roger Kemp)
19. 07:58 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Mark Davis)
20. 08:31 PM - Re: WTB: Yak-52 (Byron Fox)
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| Subject: | Propeller cycle and pitch issue |
There is an oil gallery running along the top of the gearbox, but part of
the original casting. On that there is a large hexagonal plug, and under
that is the filter. Obviously if it becomes restricted, then the governor
will not work correctly. It is conventional wire-mesh and easily washable.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trond
Sent: 16 November 2014 19:37
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeller cycle and pitch issue
No.
And i dont think Termikas did either.
I was not present when they did the governor change out.
Where is this filter located?
Regards Trond
Sendt fra min iPhone
> Den 16. nov. 2014 kl. 18.16 skrev Richard Goode
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>:
>
> --> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
> Have you cleaned the filter in the oil supply to the governor?
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trond
> Sent: 16 November 2014 12:12
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Propeller cycle and pitch issue
>
>
>
> Hello
> Im new in this forum.
> I am Trond from Norway.
> I have a Yak-52W 2000model
> I have problems with my governor/propeller or something else.
> To explain.My last flight, f.eks after a low pass when climbing
> quickly, engine couldnt keep set rpm .. Rpm fell ..resulted in lower speed
aswell...
> lower than normal at this climb angel ...and i have to rapidly put
> nose down not to stall... You could feel the lack off power. I flew to
> airfield and landed.
> I decided to change governor. Thinking this was it according to hours run.
> Termikas changed my governor.
> At test runs on ground everything seemed ok. There wasnt weather for
> flight tests..anyway..Problem thought to be solved.
> Then next flight 3 weeks later..when doing run up for testflight. And
> trying to cycle.
> The propeller would not go coarse.
> When i tried to cycle with rpm handle nothing happens. I tried
> everything for 30 minutes. Throttle upp down.. Rpm handle up and down.
> Different settings..Nothing.
> No change in rpm.
> Flight was offcourse aborted.
>
> What could be wrong?
> Governor is new.. Could this still be a faulty governor??
> Or do i have a propeller issue?
> Returnline blocked???
>
> Anybody have drawing of oil system on governor and propeller ?I dont
> in my manuals.
> Or have drawings on total oil system included in engine drawing with
> governor and propeller.???
> Are there return filters from propeller to oil tank??
>
> I have a hoffman 3blade propp. If i take the propeller off my
> yak...and lay it on ground in hangar, should i be able to turn pitch
> on blades with my hands. F.ex tree guys one on each blade??
>
> Best regards
> Trond Sorgard
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller cycle and pitch issue |
Here's a photo of it. When you remove the hex plug, use a box end
wrench and not an open end wrenchbecause you can easily round off the
flats on the hex because it is aluminum.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 11/17/2014 6:45 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
>
> There is an oil gallery running along the top of the gearbox, but part of
> the original casting. On that there is a large hexagonal plug, and under
> that is the filter. Obviously if it becomes restricted, then the governor
> will not work correctly. It is conventional wire-mesh and easily washable.
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trond
> Sent: 16 November 2014 19:37
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeller cycle and pitch issue
>
>
> No.
> And i dont think Termikas did either.
> I was not present when they did the governor change out.
> Where is this filter located?
>
> Regards Trond
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone
>
>> Den 16. nov. 2014 kl. 18.16 skrev Richard Goode
> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>:
>> --> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>>
>> Have you cleaned the filter in the oil supply to the governor?
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>> Rhodds Farm
>> Lyonshall
>> Hereford
>> HR5 3LW
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trond
>> Sent: 16 November 2014 12:12
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Propeller cycle and pitch issue
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello
>> Im new in this forum.
>> I am Trond from Norway.
>> I have a Yak-52W 2000model
>> I have problems with my governor/propeller or something else.
>> To explain.My last flight, f.eks after a low pass when climbing
>> quickly, engine couldnt keep set rpm .. Rpm fell ..resulted in lower speed
> aswell...
>> lower than normal at this climb angel ...and i have to rapidly put
>> nose down not to stall... You could feel the lack off power. I flew to
>> airfield and landed.
>> I decided to change governor. Thinking this was it according to hours run.
>> Termikas changed my governor.
>> At test runs on ground everything seemed ok. There wasnt weather for
>> flight tests..anyway..Problem thought to be solved.
>> Then next flight 3 weeks later..when doing run up for testflight. And
>> trying to cycle.
>> The propeller would not go coarse.
>> When i tried to cycle with rpm handle nothing happens. I tried
>> everything for 30 minutes. Throttle upp down.. Rpm handle up and down.
>> Different settings..Nothing.
>> No change in rpm.
>> Flight was offcourse aborted.
>>
>> What could be wrong?
>> Governor is new.. Could this still be a faulty governor??
>> Or do i have a propeller issue?
>> Returnline blocked???
>>
>> Anybody have drawing of oil system on governor and propeller ?I dont
>> in my manuals.
>> Or have drawings on total oil system included in engine drawing with
>> governor and propeller.???
>> Are there return filters from propeller to oil tank??
>>
>> I have a hoffman 3blade propp. If i take the propeller off my
>> yak...and lay it on ground in hangar, should i be able to turn pitch
>> on blades with my hands. F.ex tree guys one on each blade??
>>
>> Best regards
>> Trond Sorgard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 |
Since we are talking safety, let me throw in a hopefully interesting anecdote.
I watched the video Barry mentioned here and in doing so I had to smile, because
what happened to the gent in front happened to me, but much worse. Please
let me explain.
The first time I did inverted spin training, I had a headset on ..... exactly as
this pilot did. Same exact model too! When the spin went hard invented in
the YAK-50, my headset flew off my head, and was bouncing off the canopy behind
me. When I flicked to an upright spin, it fell behind the seat and into the
control cables for the elevator and rudder. Since I am writing this story,
obviously I am still alive.
If you look at the video, you can see the gent with one hand on the stick and the
other hand holding his headset from falling off.
I am not berating or finger point in ANY way. I made this same exact mistake,
but since it was a stock 50 with no cover behind the backseat, it could have killed
me.
So word to the wise for aerobatic folks. Wear some type of gear that captures
the headset in a cranial cover with a CHIN STRAP! Either that, or a full helmet.
Never headsets that just slide over your head.
It's kind of hard to get instruction in a single seat aircraft.... .the only method
you really have is for your instructor to be on the radio and watching the
aircraft closely. When your headset falls off, ....... no more instructor.
Lesson learned.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of barryhancock
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 6:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52
--> <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
Here's a link to a short video of a transition or "cross over" spin exercise I
recently did with Bill Finigan, who has 10,000 hrs. of Pitts time. While this
is a drill, this is exactly the kind of craziness you can encounter with an unintentional
spin entry and improper recovery techniques. Imagine for a second
you were not expecting this and had no training...
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205379349393189&comment_id=10205381775213833&offset=0&total_comments=4
--------
Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433820#433820
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| Subject: | Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 |
"Hard inverted in the Yak-50" Not "invented".
Typo. Sorry.
Mark
p.s. A cover behind the seat in the 50 is also a very wise move.
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52
--> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Since we are talking safety, let me throw in a hopefully interesting anecdote.
I watched the video Barry mentioned here and in doing so I had to smile, because
what happened to the gent in front happened to me, but much worse. Please
let me explain.
The first time I did inverted spin training, I had a headset on ..... exactly as
this pilot did. Same exact model too! When the spin went hard invented in
the YAK-50, my headset flew off my head, and was bouncing off the canopy behind
me. When I flicked to an upright spin, it fell behind the seat and into the
control cables for the elevator and rudder. Since I am writing this story,
obviously I am still alive.
If you look at the video, you can see the gent with one hand on the stick and the
other hand holding his headset from falling off.
I am not berating or finger point in ANY way. I made this same exact mistake,
but since it was a stock 50 with no cover behind the backseat, it could have killed
me.
So word to the wise for aerobatic folks. Wear some type of gear that captures
the headset in a cranial cover with a CHIN STRAP! Either that, or a full helmet.
Never headsets that just slide over your head.
It's kind of hard to get instruction in a single seat aircraft.... .the only method
you really have is for your instructor to be on the radio and watching the
aircraft closely. When your headset falls off, ....... no more instructor.
Lesson learned.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of barryhancock
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 6:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52
--> <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
Here's a link to a short video of a transition or "cross over" spin exercise I
recently did with Bill Finigan, who has 10,000 hrs. of Pitts time. While this
is a drill, this is exactly the kind of craziness you can encounter with an unintentional
spin entry and improper recovery techniques. Imagine for a second
you were not expecting this and had no training...
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205379349393189&comment_id=10205381775213833&offset=0&total_comments=4
--------
Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433820#433820
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller cycle and pitch issue |
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| Subject: | Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 |
Any suggestions for west coast spin instructors for -52
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| Subject: | Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 |
mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m wrote:
> Since we are talking safety, let me throw in a hopefully interesting anecdote.
I watched the video Barry mentioned here and in doing so I had to smile, because
what happened to the gent in front happened to me, but much worse. Please
let me explain.
>
> The first time I did inverted spin training, I had a headset on ..... exactly
as this pilot did. Same exact model too! When the spin went hard invented
in the YAK-50, my headset flew off my head, and was bouncing off the canopy behind
me. When I flicked to an upright spin, it fell behind the seat and into
the control cables for the elevator and rudder. Since I am writing this story,
obviously I am still alive.
>
> If you look at the video, you can see the gent with one hand on the stick and
the other hand holding his headset from falling off.
>
> I am not berating or finger point in ANY way. I made this same exact mistake,
but since it was a stock 50 with no cover behind the backseat, it could have
killed me.
>
> So word to the wise for aerobatic folks. Wear some type of gear that captures
the headset in a cranial cover with a CHIN STRAP! Either that, or a full helmet.
Never headsets that just slide over your head.
> --
Thanks, Mark. Your points are right on track. There are a couple of assumptions
about this video that deserve clearing up.
1) The headsets we were wearing (Lightspeeds) have a velcro strap on them and
work great for inverted flight and are comfortable. That being said, yes, don't
go inverted or do any negative without a headset restraint system of some type.
2) I was flying the plane from the back seat (typical PIC position in a Pitts),
so Bill didn't have any hands on the stick. He's (Bill Fenian) a 10,000+ hr.
Pitts instructor and IAC Hall of Famer. For whatever reason he doesn't strap
himself extra tight in the front for the inverted stuff.
--------
Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433932#433932
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| Subject: | Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 |
Roger Baker used to do all the upright spin training in the -52 out of San Diego,
but I'm pretty sure he's done with flying Yaks. I don't know anyone else.
I would get in touch with Vladimir Yastremski. yastremski (at) sbcglobal.net
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Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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| Subject: | Re: Spins, particularly in a Yak-52 |
Hi Barry
I think I have explored all the spin areas of the 50 and havent found any problem
areas yet. It sounds like the 52 is different. What exactly is the recovery
method from the upright flat and inverted flat in the 52? My 50 doesnt do
a good inverted flat. My Pitts and Ultimates were great inverted but the 50 is
too much work. The upright flat takes 1-2 turns more if you forget the inspin
aileron.
Thanks
Gord
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:12 PM, barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote:
>
>
> Roger Baker used to do all the upright spin training in the -52 out of San Diego,
but I'm pretty sure he's done with flying Yaks. I don't know anyone else.
I would get in touch with Vladimir Yastremski. yastremski (at) sbcglobal.net
>
> --------
> Barry Hancock
> Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
> www.worldwidewarbirds.com
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433933#433933
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After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or
getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me
know.
Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. Don't
care other upgrades as much.
I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
Thanks!
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Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For *one hour*, there is no
finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly
upside down all day.
Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me
that the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a
grown man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak.
Also, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of
fuel, has a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai,
and is faster than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San
Francisco Bay Area, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see
www.baybombersquadron.com.
Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark side,
we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded
throttle.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or
> getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me
> know.
>
> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines.
> Don't care other upgrades as much.
>
> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>
> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>
> Thanks!
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
... Blitz
Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issues a
nd they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt, and f
ree weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to fight 1
v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics, Yak. If y
ou want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go potty in flig
ht, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together. If you plan on s
taying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a whopper with cheese in a
Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers th
en maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work on t
hem together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite reme
mber what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must be t
he flushing thing.
Dawg
> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no f
iner airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly up
side down all day.
>
> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me th
at the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a grown
man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak. Also,
the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of fuel, has
a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai, and is fast
er than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San Francisco Bay Ar
ea, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadro
n.com.
>
> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark side
, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded throt
tle.
>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or
getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me
know.
>>
>> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. Don
't care other upgrades as much.
>>
>> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>>
>> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>> ank">www.mrrace.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ... Blitz
>
> Byron M. Fox
> 80 Milland Drive
> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405
>
>
>
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Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
Doug
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issues
> and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt, and
> free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to
> fight 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics,
> Yak. If you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go
> potty in flight, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together.
> If you plan on staying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a
> whopper with cheese in a Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ.
> After Enough whoppers then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
> Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
> So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work
> on them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite
> remember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
>
> Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must be
> the flushing thing.
>
> Dawg
>
> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For *one hour*, there is
> no finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will
> fly upside down all day.
>
> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me
> that the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a
> grown man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak.
> Also, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of
> fuel, has a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai,
> and is faster than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San
> Francisco Bay Area, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see
> www.baybombersquadron.com.
>
> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark
> side, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded
> throttle.
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or
>> getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me
>> know.
>>
>> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines.
>> Don't care other upgrades as much.
>>
>> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>>
>> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> *
>>
>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com <http://www.aeroelectric.com>
>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.buildersbooks.com>
>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com <http://www.homebuilthelp.com>
>> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com <http://www.mypilotstore.com>
>> ank">www.mrrace.com <http://www.mrrace.com>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ... Blitz
>
> Byron M. Fox
> 80 Milland Drive
> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405
>
> *
>
> D============================================
> ot;">www.aeroelectric.com <http://www.aeroelectric.com>
> books.com <http://books.com>"">www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.buildersbooks.com>
> quot;">www.homebuilthelp.com <http://www.homebuilthelp.com>
> quot;">www.mypilotstore.com <http://www.mypilotstore.com>
> ">www.mrrace.com <http://www.mrrace.com>
> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
> D============================================
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> D============================================
> //forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
> D============================================
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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I would have been so disappointed had there been no reaction. My three hour b
utt is not the problem. It's my two hour bladder that's the issue.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
>
> Doug
>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issue
s and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt, an
d free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to fig
ht 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics, Yak. I
f you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go potty in f
light, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together. If you plan o
n staying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a whopper with cheese i
n a Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers
then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
>> Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
>> So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work o
n them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite r
emember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
>>
>> Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must b
e the flushing thing.
>>
>> Dawg
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no
finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly u
pside down all day.
>>>
>>> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me t
hat the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a grow
n man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak. Also
, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of fuel, ha
s a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai, and is fas
ter than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San Francisco Bay A
rea, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadr
on.com.
>>>
>>> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark si
de, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded thr
ottle.
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying o
r getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let m
e know.
>>>>
>>>> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. D
on't care other upgrades as much.
>>>>
>>>> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>>>>
>>>> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>>>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>>>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>>>> ank">www.mrrace.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ... Blitz
>>>
>>> Byron M. Fox
>>> 80 Milland Drive
>>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>>> 415-307-2405
>>>
>>>
>>>
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i can relate
On Nov 17, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would have been so disappointed had there been no reaction. My three
hour butt is not the problem. It's my two hour bladder that's the issue.
>
> Blitz Fox
> 415-307-2405
>
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6
issues and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr
butt, and free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you
want to fight 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard
aerobatics, Yak. If you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you
want room to go potty in flight, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets
kind of go together. If you plan on staying young and exciting, YAK. You
can even carry a whopper with cheese in a Yak. If you want a whopper,
cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
>> Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
>> So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can
work on them together. San Francisco, something about that city.....
Can't quite remember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
>>
>> Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money.
Must be the flushing thing.
>>
>> Dawg
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there
is no finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and
will fly upside down all day.
>>>
>>> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded
me that the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built
for a grown man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote
Sergei Boriak. Also, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away,
holds 3 hours of fuel, has a baggage compartment, runs the essentially
bulletproof Housai, and is faster than the Yak 52. But most important
for those in the San Francisco Bay Area, there are 8 other Nanchangs to
fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadron.com.
>>>
>>> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the
dark side, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly
retarded throttle.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either
buying or getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling -
please let me know.
>>>
>>> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time
engines. Don't care other upgrades as much.
>>>
>>> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>>>
>>> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>>> ank">www.mrrace.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ... Blitz
>>>
>>> Byron M. Fox
>>> 80 Milland Drive
>>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>>> 415-307-2405
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Only to be exceeded by 101 uses for MMO!
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:08 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
>
> Doug
>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issue
s and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt, an
d free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to fig
ht 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics, Yak. I
f you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go potty in f
light, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together. If you plan o
n staying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a whopper with cheese i
n a Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers
then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
>> Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
>> So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work o
n them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite r
emember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
>>
>> Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must b
e the flushing thing.
>>
>> Dawg
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no
finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly u
pside down all day.
>>>
>>> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me t
hat the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a grow
n man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak. Also
, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of fuel, ha
s a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai, and is fas
ter than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San Francisco Bay A
rea, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadr
on.com.
>>>
>>> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark si
de, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded thr
ottle.
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying o
r getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let m
e know.
>>>>
>>>> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. D
on't care other upgrades as much.
>>>>
>>>> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>>>>
>>>> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>>>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>>>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>>> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>>>> ank">www.mrrace.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ... Blitz
>>>
>>> Byron M. Fox
>>> 80 Milland Drive
>>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>>> 415-307-2405
>>>
>>>
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Good choice Younus.
Doc
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> On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or g
etting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me k
now.
>
> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. Don'
t care other upgrades as much.
>
> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>
> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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Blitz,
TMI Dude..." Friends took me in hand and gently persuaded..."
Just saying...=F0=9F=98=B1
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 6:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issues
and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt, and
free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to figh
t 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics, Yak. I
f you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go potty in f
light, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together. If you plan o
n staying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a whopper with cheese i
n a Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers
then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
> Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
> So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work o
n them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite r
emember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
>
> Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must be
the flushing thing.
>
> Dawg
>
>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no f
iner airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly up
side down all day.
>>
>> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me t
hat the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a grow
n man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak. Also
, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of fuel, ha
s a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai, and is fas
ter than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San Francisco Bay A
rea, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadr
on.com.
>>
>> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark sid
e, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded thro
ttle.
>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying o
r getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let m
e know.
>>>
>>> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. Do
n't care other upgrades as much.
>>>
>>> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>>>
>>> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
>>> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
>>> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>> ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com
>>> ank">www.mrrace.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ... Blitz
>>
>> Byron M. Fox
>> 80 Milland Drive
>> Mill Valley, CA 94941
>> 415-307-2405
>>
>>
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Blitz,
Do I see a future Depends commercial coming in Red Alert? : )
Maybe they could be signed up for a corporate sponsor!
Mark Davis
N44YK
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: WTB: Yak-52
I would have been so disappointed had there been no reaction. My three
hour butt is not the problem. It's my two hour bladder that's the issue.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
Doug
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6
issues and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr
butt, and free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you
want to fight 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard
aerobatics, Yak. If you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you
want room to go potty in flight, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets
kind of go together. If you plan on staying young and exciting, YAK. You
can even carry a whopper with cheese in a Yak. If you want a whopper,
cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work
on them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't
quite remember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must
be the flushing thing.
Dawg
On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no
finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will
fly upside down all day.
Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me
that the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a
grown man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei
Boriak. Also, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3
hours of fuel, has a baggage compartment, runs the essentially
bulletproof Housai, and is faster than the Yak 52. But most important
for those in the San Francisco Bay Area, there are 8 other Nanchangs to
fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadron.com.
Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark
side, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly
retarded throttle.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying
or getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please
let me know.
Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines.
Don't care other upgrades as much.
I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
Thanks!
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Byron M. Fox
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I think the folks at On The Go have a better idea, Mark. Tidier than Depends
.
http://www.oneonthego.com
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Mark Davis <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
>
> Blitz,
> Do I see a future Depends commercial coming in Red Alert? : ) Maybe
they could be signed up for a corporate sponsor!
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:42 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: WTB: Yak-52
>
> I would have been so disappointed had there been no reaction. My three hou
r butt is not the problem. It's my two hour bladder that's the issue.
>
> Blitz Fox
> 415-307-2405
>
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
>
> Doug
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issues
and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt, and
free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to figh
t 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics, Yak. I
f you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go potty in f
light, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together. If you plan o
n staying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a whopper with cheese i
n a Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough whoppers
then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
> Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
> So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work o
n them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite r
emember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
>
> Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must be
the flushing thing.
>
> Dawg
>
> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no f
iner airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly up
side down all day.
>
> Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me th
at the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a grown
man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak. Also,
the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of fuel, has
a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai, and is fast
er than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San Francisco Bay Ar
ea, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see www.baybombersquadro
n.com.
>
> Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark side
, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded throt
tle.
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <yaftab@gmail.com> wrote:
> After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or g
etting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me k
now.
>
> Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines. Don'
t care other upgrades as much.
>
> I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
>
> Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com
> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com
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>
>
>
> --
> ... Blitz
>
> Byron M. Fox
> 80 Milland Drive
> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405
>
>
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TMI!
In a message dated 11/17/2014 8:31:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
byronmfox@gmail.com writes:
I think the folks at On The Go have a better idea, Mark. Tidier than
Depends.
_http://www.oneonthego.com_ (http://www.oneonthego.com/)
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Mark Davis <_markdavis@wbsnet.org_
(mailto:markdavis@wbsnet.org) > wrote:
Blitz,
Do I see a future Depends commercial coming in Red Alert? : ) Maybe they
could be signed up for a corporate sponsor!
Mark Davis
N44YK
From: _owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com_
(mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Byron Fox
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: WTB: Yak-52
I would have been so disappointed had there been no reaction. My three
hour butt is not the problem. It's my two hour bladder that's the issue.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
On Nov 17, 2014, at 5:08 PM, doug sapp <_dougsappllc@gmail.com_
(mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com) > wrote:
Oh geeze, is it that time again already? :o)
Doug
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, bill geipel <_l129bs@gmail.com_
(mailto:l129bs@gmail.com) > wrote:
But make sure you read the last several months of postings. All CJ6 issues
and they all want to put in the Yak engine. So if you have a 3 hr butt,
and free weekends to apparently work on it, go for it. Now, if you want to
fight 1v1 or something more sporting, go with the Yak. Hard aerobatics, Yak.
If you want to dance in the cockpit, go CJ. If you want room to go potty
in flight, probably CJ. Potty and FLUSH rivets kind of go together. If you
plan on staying young and exciting, YAK. You can even carry a whopper with
cheese in a Yak. If you want a whopper, cheese and a Coke, CJ. After Enough
whoppers then maybe CJ or Yak 18T.
Oh to be 18 again! I don't think I was ever 140lbs?
So there you have. 8 of your new friends in the city by the bay can work
on them together. San Francisco, something about that city..... Can't quite
remember what they do out there? Boys? Oh never mind.
Either choice is good. For some reason the CJ is a lot more money. Must be
the flushing thing.
Dawg
On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:49, Byron Fox <_byronmfox@gmail.com_
(mailto:byronmfox@gmail.com) > wrote:
Younus, I too had a burning need for a Yak 52. For one hour, there is no
finer airplane. It handles beautifully, has a great roll rate and will fly
upside down all day.
Then 13 years ago, dear friends took me in hand and gently persuaded me
that the Nanchang CJ-6A was, well, just superior. First it's built for a
grown man, and not just "140 lb.,18 year old boys," to quote Sergei Boriak.
Also, the CJ's flush riveted, has gear that goes away, holds 3 hours of fuel,
has a baggage compartment, runs the essentially bulletproof Housai, and is
faster than the Yak 52. But most important for those in the San Francisco
Bay Area, there are 8 other Nanchangs to fly with. Please see
_www.baybombersquadron.com_ (http://www.baybombersquadron.com/) .
Be assured, however, that if indeed you decide to go over to the dark
side, we will still welcome you with open arms.... and a slightly retarded
throttle.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Younus Aftab <_yaftab@gmail.com_
(mailto:yaftab@gmail.com) > wrote:
After chatting with a number of people; I am considering either buying or
getting into a partnership for a 52. If somebody is selling - please let me
know.
Prefer a basic flying 52 with heavy spar and mid to low time engines.
Don't care other upgrades as much.
I am in the West Coast (San Francisco) - So closer is better for me.
Please send me a private email if you have any leads.
Thanks!
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Byron M. Fox
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