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Sat 11/22/14


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     1. 06:05 AM - Re: Spinning the 52 (Dr. Herbert Coussons)
     2. 06:06 AM - Re: Spinning the 52 (Dr. Herbert Coussons)
     3. 09:19 AM - Re: Spinning the 52 (PaulW)
     4. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Spinning the 52 (Dr. Herbert Coussons)
     5. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Prop nut torque (Walter Lannon)
     6. 05:57 PM - Re: Spinning the 52 (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:05:42 AM PST US
    From: "Dr. Herbert Coussons" <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Spinning the 52
    It took me a while to find the videos and edit them. Here is a link to Sergei teaching spins. My first try at them in 2005 when he came to the yak event at Manitowoc. http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo You can hear the coaching and the steps. Idle - Stick back middle, no aileron - right rudder, then plan spins. Then opposite rudder - stick neutral - plane recovers. You will see my mistakes, but within 3-4 tries he=92s not yelling at me. Point is to show steps, actually how the plane responds and =85. The value of good instruction in the back seat. I flew with him almost every year in the summer for 6 years. We added ever y year to skills, and improvement on old skills. Then in 2011 I wanted to lean to tumble. We had to lean inverted spins, b/ c if controls held in tumble, the result is an inverted spin. Here is the video of the inverted spin training. Sorry not in color and it was hazy with rain in the area out of OSH. http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4 Enjoy and fly safe. Herb Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com> 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869 On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Dr. Herbert Coussons <drc@wscare.com<mailto:d rc@wscare.com>> wrote: To all who care to read the detail. If not skip to the last paragraph. I will try to upload cockpit video of upright spins to You Tube I also have some crappy video of inverted spins. I will post that to. Herb Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com> 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869 <SPINS_UNSPUN.PDF>


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    Time: 06:06:53 AM PST US
    From: "Dr. Herbert Coussons" <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Spinning the 52
    It took me a while to find the videos and edit them. Here is a link to Sergei teaching spins. My first try at them in 2005 when he came to the yak event at Manitowoc. http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo You can hear the coaching and the steps. Idle - Stick back middle, no aileron - right rudder, then plan spins. Then opposite rudder - stick neutral - plane recovers. You will see my mistakes, but within 3-4 tries he=92s not yelling at me. Point is to show steps, actually how the plane responds and =85. The value of good instruction in the back seat. I flew with him almost every year in the summer for 6 years. We added ever y year to skills, and improvement on old skills. Then in 2011 I wanted to lean to tumble. We had to lean inverted spins, b/ c if controls held in tumble, the result is an inverted spin. Here is the video of the inverted spin training. Sorry not in color and it was hazy with rain in the area out of OSH. http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4 Enjoy and fly safe. Herb Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com> 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869 On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Dr. Herbert Coussons <drc@wscare.com<mailto:d rc@wscare.com>> wrote: To all who care to read the detail. If not skip to the last paragraph. I will try to upload cockpit video of upright spins to You Tube I also have some crappy video of inverted spins. I will post that to. Herb Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com> 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869 <SPINS_UNSPUN.PDF>


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    Time: 09:19:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Spinning the 52
    From: "PaulW" <paul@budcyber.com>
    drc(at)wscare.com wrote: > It took me a while to find the videos and edit them. > Here is a link to Sergei teaching spins. My first try at them in 2005 when he came to the yak event at Manitowoc. > http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo (http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo) > You can hear the coaching and the steps. > Idle - Stick back middle, no aileron - right rudder, then plan spins. > Then opposite rudder - stick neutral - plane recovers. > > You will see my mistakes, but within 3-4 tries hes not yelling at me. > Point is to show steps, actually how the plane responds and . > The value of good instruction in the back seat. > > I flew with him almost every year in the summer for 6 years. We added every year to skills, and improvement on old skills. > Then in 2011 I wanted to lean to tumble. We had to lean inverted spins, b/c if controls held in tumble, the result is an inverted spin. > > Here is the video of the inverted spin training. Sorry not in color and it was hazy with rain in the area out of OSH. > http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4 (http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4) > > Enjoy and fly safe. > > > Herb > > Very interesting. What I found interesting that you had difficulty in reaching all the way to the front (with the stick) So iow, you should tighten the straps just enough to still have full control of the stick right into each far "corner". ....and no loose objects... :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434349#434349


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    Time: 10:36:14 AM PST US
    From: "Dr. Herbert Coussons" <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Re: Spinning the 52
    Yes. I was strapped tight. Knowing tumbles were on the list for the day. I have done much more since then. Including in a 55. Figured out that lap belt (ratcheting in the 55) holds you in the seat. Shoulder straps keep your face off the panel in rapid deceleration. I fly with them more loose now and can reach corners no problem. And can turn more to check six. :) Sent from DrC@wscare.com on the iPhone. Please excuse spelling and autocorrect. Siri makes mistakes :). > On Nov 22, 2014, at 11:26 AM, PaulW <paul@budcyber.com> wrote: > > > > drc(at)wscare.com wrote: >> It took me a while to find the videos and edit them. >> Here is a link to Sergei teaching spins. My first try at them in 2005 when he came to the yak event at Manitowoc. >> http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo (http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo) >> You can hear the coaching and the steps. >> Idle - Stick back middle, no aileron - right rudder, then plan spins. >> Then opposite rudder - stick neutral - plane recovers. >> >> You will see my mistakes, but within 3-4 tries hes not yelling at me. >> Point is to show steps, actually how the plane responds and . >> The value of good instruction in the back seat. >> >> I flew with him almost every year in the summer for 6 years. We added every year to skills, and improvement on old skills. >> Then in 2011 I wanted to lean to tumble. We had to lean inverted spins, b/c if controls held in tumble, the result is an inverted spin. >> >> Here is the video of the inverted spin training. Sorry not in color and it was hazy with rain in the area out of OSH. >> http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4 (http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4) >> >> Enjoy and fly safe. >> >> >> Herb > > > Very interesting. What I found interesting that you had difficulty in reaching all the way to the front (with the stick) > So iow, you should tighten the straps just enough to still have full control of the stick right into each far "corner". > > ....and no loose objects... :) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434349#434349 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:50:23 AM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Prop nut torque
    I would expect to see the same blade preload for the Russian hub as well. 10Nm (7.2 lb/Ft) is a very minimal preload compared to similar Hamilton Standard props. (2D30,12D40, etc) which is 50 lb/ft. and thrust bearing design is identical. I would hazard a guess that the reason for this preload could be to overcome any non-axial blade loading transferred to the bearing area. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Vic Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:40 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Prop nut torque It puzzles me how one can issue torque numbers for the blades when the nuts only do one job, preload axial rollers. So Id be a bit worried to overload those rollers heavily to achieve 10 Nm torque in a roller bearing that normally has very low friction. What could be the effect if this torque was only half or quart of the numbers, anybody an idea ? I only know the Russian hub. Vic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434322#434322


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    Time: 05:57:58 PM PST US
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Subject: Spinning the 52
    Thank you so much for sharing this. It took me back and made me remember how good Sergei really is. Mark ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Dr. Herbert Coussons [drc@wscare.com] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Spinning the 52 It took me a while to find the videos and edit them. Here is a link to Sergei teaching spins. My first try at them in 2005 when he came to the yak event at Manitowoc. http://youtu.be/1E6aM6n-9Xo You can hear the coaching and the steps. Idle - Stick back middle, no aileron - right rudder, then plan spins. Then opposite rudder - stick neutral - plane recovers. You will see my mistakes, but within 3-4 tries hes not yelling at me. Point is to show steps, actually how the plane responds and . The value of good instruction in the back seat. I flew with him almost every year in the summer for 6 years. We added every year to skills, and improvement on old skills. Then in 2011 I wanted to lean to tumble. We had to lean inverted spins, b/c if controls held in tumble, the result is an inverted spin. Here is the video of the inverted spin training. Sorry not in color and it was hazy with rain in the area out of OSH. http://youtu.be/7e9ntmvQPq4 Enjoy and fly safe. Herb Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com> 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869 On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Dr. Herbert Coussons <drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com>> wrote: To all who care to read the detail. If not skip to the last paragraph. I will try to upload cockpit video of upright spins to You Tube I also have some crappy video of inverted spins. I will post that to. Herb Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com<mailto:drc@wscare.com> 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869 <SPINS_UNSPUN.PDF>




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