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     1. 01:37 AM - Re: Formation (Kevin Pilling)
     2. 11:35 AM - Re: Formation (theDicePilot .)
     3. 11:58 AM - Re: Formation (Jon Blake)
     4. 02:08 PM - Re: Formation (cjpilot710@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:37:23 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Pilling" <pilko2@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Formation
    Fear not. Frank Chapman is an ex RAF and ETPS veteran and past instructor at the UK =99s No 1 Formation Training School. Suffice to say the French didn =99t entrust the leadership of their prestigious formation to him lig htly. I=99ve had both the privilege of him back seating me and the unique p rivilege of back seating him to check him out on the Yak 52. He=99s a class act. kp From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Blake Sent: 09 December 2014 00:13 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Formation Cool video. Did they send Weeds the required paperwork for their FAST card renewal? JB Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote: >From what I understand I doubt they would be allowed to fly at a Red Star f unction but you might find this interesting to watch. http://www.chonday.com/Videos/fivebujawe2 ~, _____ g=D3=93 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protec tion is active. http://www.avast.com


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    Time: 11:35:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Formation
    From: "theDicePilot ." <thedicepilot@gmail.com>
    RPA FAST cards denied. I wanted to see element takeoffs, #4 was sucked and non standard French terms for the echelon break was a fail. ;) All kidding around, they did an outstanding job in this video. Thanks for sharing. Weeds On Dec 9, 2014 1:39 AM, "Kevin Pilling" <pilko2@btinternet.com> wrote: > Fear not. > > > Frank Chapman is an ex RAF and ETPS veteran and past instructor at the > UK=99s No 1 Formation Training School. Suffice to say the French di dn=99t > entrust the leadership of their prestigious formation to him lightly. > > > I=99ve had both the privilege of him back seating me and the unique > privilege of back seating him to check him out on the Yak 52. > > > He=99s a class act. > > > kp > > > *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Blake > *Sent:* 09 December 2014 00:13 > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Formation > > > Cool video. Did they send Weeds the required paperwork for their FAST car d > renewal? JB > > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > > > doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote: > > From what I understand I doubt they would be allowed to fly at a Red Star > function but you might find this interesting to watch. > > http://www.chonday.com/Videos/fivebujawe2 > > > =EF=BD (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gi November is the Annual L ist Fund Raiser. Click on > > *www.aeroelectric.com <http://www.aeroelectric.com> * The Builder's Books tore www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.buildersbooks.com>* > > *_ List Contribution Web Site:* > > http://www.matronics.com/contributionfor your generous support! > > * such as List Un/Subscription,* > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?Yak-List>* > > *_ --> http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>* > > > ~, > ------------------------------ > g=D3=93 > > > ------------------------------ > <http://www.avast.com/> > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active. > > * > =========== m> ldersbooks.com> .com> com> om/contribution> =========== nics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> =========== =========== > > * > >


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    Time: 11:58:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Formation
    From: Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net>
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    Time: 02:08:02 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Formation
    Beautiful Video. Smart- "Keep it simple". Having flown big airplanes in formation (B-17 & B-24) I tell you from personal experience that - - - ON E: It is 100 times harder than Yaks or CJs. Control pressures alone tax you to the max. TWO: Speeds are very difficult to maintain. You are workin g 4 engines vs 1. They do not respond as quickly nor does the airplane. You have to be much further ahead of the airplane. The longest I've been "in close" (photo flight) has been about :30 minutes. I was totally bushed! I can only marvel at those 8th or 15th airforce pilots that averaged 7 to 8 hours in formation over Europe. They were supermen. BTW If you get a B-24 on the wing of a B-17, drop 10' of flap. You won't waddle so much. The B-17 is pretty damn slow. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 12/9/2014 3:00:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jblake207@comcast.net writes: Good one Weeds. JB Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID "theDicePilot ." <thedicepilot@gmail.com> wrote: RPA FAST cards denied. I wanted to see element takeoffs, #4 was sucked and non standard French terms for the echelon break was a fail. ;) All kidding around, they did an outstanding job in this video. Thanks for sharing. Weeds On Dec 9, 2014 1:39 AM, "Kevin Pilling" <_pilko2@btinternet.com_ (mailto:pilko2@btinternet.com) > wrote: Fear not. Frank Chapman is an ex RAF and ETPS veteran and past instructor at the UK =99 s No 1 Formation Training School. Suffice to say the French didn=99 t entrust the leadership of their prestigious formation to him lightly. I=99ve had both the privilege of him back seating me and the unique privilege of back seating him to check him out on the Yak 52. He=99s a class act. kp From: _owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com) [mailto:_owner-yak-list-serv er@matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com) ] On Behalf Of Jon Blake Sent: 09 December 2014 00:13 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Formation Cool video. Did they send Weeds the required paperwork for their FAST car d renewal? JB Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID doug sapp <_dougsappllc@gmail.com_ (mailto:dougsappllc@gmail.com) > wrote: >From what I understand I doubt they would be allowed to fly at a Red Star function but you might find this interesting to watch. http://www.chonday.com/Videos/fivebujawe2 =EF=BD (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gi November is the Annual Li st Fund Raiser. Click on _www.aeroelectric.com_ (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) * The Builder's Bookstore _www.buildersbooks.com_ (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) _ List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contributionfor your generous support! such as List Un/Subscription, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List _ --> _http://forums.matronics.com_ (http://forums.matronics.com/) ~, ____________________________________ g=D3=93 ____________________________________ (http://www.avast.com/) This email is free from viruses and malware because _avast! Antivirus_ (http://www.avast.com/) protection is active. _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthel p.com ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com ank">www.mrrace.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matr onics.com ======================== ============ (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.mypilotstore.com/) ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============




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