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4. 05:07 PM - Re: Main Air Tanks (Roger Kemp)
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6. 05:24 PM - Re: Main Air Tanks (Ernest Martinez)
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11. 07:29 PM - Re: Main Air Tanks (DaBear)
12. 08:03 PM - Re: Main Air Tanks (Walter Lannon)
13. 09:39 PM - Re: Yakmen in New Zealand??Need advice (ZUDSJ)
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| Subject: | M14P Stainless Steel Exhaust System |
My buyer for the M14 exhaust turned out to be a deadbeat and never sent payment
so I have relisted the exhaust system on Ebay. If you know of anyone in need
of a brand new system, please let them know about this please.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201299199984?item 1299199984&viewitem=&vxp=mtr
Thanks,
Ray
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438885#438885
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All,
Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am
considering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to
replace the current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to find.
The new SS tanks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing company and
be certified at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel tanks while
fairly expensive should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the last one you
should ever have to purchase. Right now cost for a new, albeit old stock
standard steel tank which was manufactured in the 80's or 90's is about
$450.00. The new SS tanks would be of current mfg and would cost about
$700.00 each. In order to price them at this price I would have to order
them in 20 at a time and commit to a total of 60 tanks. Due to the rather
large initial investment I am looking for a show of hands of who would be
interested if I did stocked them.
Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ emergency
tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the Yak 52 also.
Looking forward to your comments.
Best from Omak,
Doug and Kathleen
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
I would be interested in an alternative for the Yak 50 as well (main and eme
rgency bottles).
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am cons
idering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to replace the
current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to find. The new SS t
anks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing company and be certified
at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel tanks while fairly expensive
should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the last one you should ever have to p
urchase. Right now cost for a new, albeit old stock standard steel tank whi
ch was manufactured in the 80's or 90's is about $450.00. The new SS tanks w
ould be of current mfg and would cost about $700.00 each. In order to price
them at this price I would have to order them in 20 at a time and commit to
a total of 60 tanks. Due to the rather large initial investment I am looki
ng for a show of hands of who would be interested if I did stocked them.
>
> Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ emergency
tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the Yak 52 also.
>
> Looking forward to your comments.
>
> Best from Omak,
> Doug and Kathleen
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
Doug,
I'm interested.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am cons
idering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to replace the
current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to find. The new SS t
anks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing company and be certified
at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel tanks while fairly expensive
should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the last one you should ever have to p
urchase. Right now cost for a new, albeit old stock standard steel tank whi
ch was manufactured in the 80's or 90's is about $450.00. The new SS tanks w
ould be of current mfg and would cost about $700.00 each. In order to price
them at this price I would have to order them in 20 at a time and commit to
a total of 60 tanks. Due to the rather large initial investment I am looki
ng for a show of hands of who would be interested if I did stocked them.
>
> Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ emergency
tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the Yak 52 also.
>
> Looking forward to your comments.
>
> Best from Omak,
> Doug and Kathleen
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
Doug,
Why not just manufacture an adapter to connect to scuba bottles? Not to
mention you could get aluminum scuba tanks that weigh a lot less.
Ernie
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote:
> Doug,
> I'm interested.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am
> considering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to
> replace the current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to find.
> The new SS tanks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing company and
> be certified at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel tanks while
> fairly expensive should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the last one you
> should ever have to purchase. Right now cost for a new, albeit old stock
> standard steel tank which was manufactured in the 80's or 90's is about
> $450.00. The new SS tanks would be of current mfg and would cost about
> $700.00 each. In order to price them at this price I would have to order
> them in 20 at a time and commit to a total of 60 tanks. Due to the rather
> large initial investment I am looking for a show of hands of who would be
> interested if I did stocked them.
>
> Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ emergency
> tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the Yak 52 also.
>
> Looking forward to your comments.
>
> Best from Omak,
> Doug and Kathleen
>
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
Interested
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Eagle Works Aviation
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 7:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am cons
idering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to replace the
current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to find. The new SS t
anks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing company and be certified
at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel tanks while fairly expensive
should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the last one you should ever have to p
urchase. Right now cost for a new, albeit old stock standard steel tank whi
ch was manufactured in the 80's or 90's is about $450.00. The new SS tanks w
ould be of current mfg and would cost about $700.00 each. In order to price
them at this price I would have to order them in 20 at a time and commit to
a total of 60 tanks. Due to the rather large initial investment I am looki
ng for a show of hands of who would be interested if I did stocked them.
>
> Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ emergency
tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the Yak 52 also.
>
> Looking forward to your comments.
>
> Best from Omak,
> Doug and Kathleen
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
The Aluminum Scuba Tanks have the same problem as the steel tanks,
corrosion. It would take longer but would happen - look at the aluminum
air filter case.
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
I am in for a 52 Tank.
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Todd McCutchan <todd@fastaircraft.com> wrote:
>
> I would be interested in an alternative for the Yak 50 as well (main and e
mergency bottles).
>
> Todd McCutchan
> T-34A & Yak-50
> Cell: (260) 402-1740
> E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
> www.fastaircraft.com
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:18 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>> Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am con
sidering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to replace th
e current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to find. The new SS
tanks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing company and be certifi
ed at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel tanks while fairly expensi
ve should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the last one you should ever have to
purchase. Right now cost for a new, albeit old stock standard steel tank w
hich was manufactured in the 80's or 90's is about $450.00. The new SS tank
s would be of current mfg and would cost about $700.00 each. In order to pr
ice them at this price I would have to order them in 20 at a time and commit
to a total of 60 tanks. Due to the rather large initial investment I am lo
oking for a show of hands of who would be interested if I did stocked them.
>>
>> Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ emergenc
y tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the Yak 52 also
.
>>
>> Looking forward to your comments.
>>
>> Best from Omak,
>> Doug and Kathleen
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
Aluminum scuba tanks are designed to be used in salt water, can be hydro
tested at any scuba shop, can be replaced for $200, are rated for 4000 PSI,
so it would be a looooooooong time before a tank corroded to the point
where it couldn't be used to contain 750 PSI.
I understand the allure of a direct replacement so you don't need to worry
about mounting. I'm assuming Doug is talking about these new tanks with the
same form factor as stock.
Is that correct Doug??
Ernie
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Frank Stelwagon <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
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> The Aluminum Scuba Tanks have the same problem as the steel tanks,
> corrosion. It would take longer but would happen - look at the aluminum
> air filter case.
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I have to agree with the Scuba idea. Don=99t manufacture a new
tank, change the hold down and connector and use off the shelf
technology cheaper. It would work for the main and emergency. If you
used scuba tanks you=99d only have to change how they were mounted
and the connection to the system.
Bear
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest
Martinez
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Main Air Tanks
Aluminum scuba tanks are designed to be used in salt water, can be hydro
tested at any scuba shop, can be replaced for $200, are rated for 4000
PSI, so it would be a looooooooong time before a tank corroded to the
point where it couldn't be used to contain 750 PSI.
I understand the allure of a direct replacement so you don't need to
worry about mounting. I'm assuming Doug is talking about these new tanks
with the same form factor as stock.
Is that correct Doug??
Ernie
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Frank Stelwagon
<pfstelwagon@earthlink.net <mailto:pfstelwagon@earthlink.net> > wrote:
The Aluminum Scuba Tanks have the same problem as the steel tanks,
corrosion. It would take longer but would happen - look at the aluminum
air filter case.
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Main Air Tanks |
I installed new tanks at restoration of my CJ and charged the emergency
tank with nitrogen. Also do a top up after annual annual emergency
gear swing. Hopefully this tank should remain free of corrosion.
Walt
From: doug sapp
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Main Air Tanks
All,
Due to rapidly escalating prices for main air tanks out of China I am
considering taking on a project to produce a stainless steel tank to
replace the current std steel tanks which are getting rather hard to
find. The new SS tanks will be built by a licensed tank manufacturing
company and be certified at 900 to 1000 psi. These new stainless steel
tanks while fairly expensive should be in fact a "lifetime tank", the
last one you should ever have to purchase. Right now cost for a new,
albeit old stock standard steel tank which was manufactured in the 80's
or 90's is about $450.00. The new SS tanks would be of current mfg and
would cost about $700.00 each. In order to price them at this price I
would have to order them in 20 at a time and commit to a total of 60
tanks. Due to the rather large initial investment I am looking for a
show of hands of who would be interested if I did stocked them.
Should enough folks step forward we will also be stocking the CJ
emergency tank and if demand is there we will look into SS tanks for the
Yak 52 also.
Looking forward to your comments.
Best from Omak,
Doug and Kathleen
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| Subject: | Re: Yakmen in New Zealand??Need advice |
Thanks Richard. Have been in email contact with him :D
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