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1. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
2. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Jan Mevis)
3. 10:54 AM - Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Elmar & Manuela)
4. 11:41 AM - Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (doug sapp)
5. 01:30 PM - Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Jeff Deuchar)
6. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
7. 04:59 PM - Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Elmar & Manuela)
8. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (doug sapp)
9. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Jeff)
10. 07:33 PM - Re: Air Leak Advice (AcroGimp)
11. 08:29 PM - Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Walter Lannon)
12. 08:46 PM - Re: Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Walter Lannon)
13. 09:01 PM - Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada (Walter Lannon)
14. 09:07 PM - Housai Compression (Okanogan Lew)
15. 11:22 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Jan Mevis)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
On the 50 it also is filled from the compressor.
Wouldn't be too hard to change. I've always been curious why the Russians decided
to fill it (from the compressor) on the 50 and not on the 52.
Mark
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
Thanks Dennis. All this time I thought the emergency was also being replenished
but I just looked at the schematic. I'll be darn. Appreciate the reply.
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
One of the reasons could be that the emergency bottle on the 52 gets
filled with perfectly dry air, from an industrial bottle.
So less probability of oxidation etc.
The water separator on the 50 can't do better than that.
I had to replace the water separator on my 50 almost immediately when I
bought it 10 years ago.
It was supposed to be overhauled in 2000 in Shakthy.
But I'm sure that they kept the original water separator from the eighties.
I still have it, I can simply blow through it without any effort.
Only an educated guess,
Jan
On 06/04/15 17:09, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>On the 50 it also is filled from the compressor.
>
>Wouldn't be too hard to change. I've always been curious why the
>Russians decided to fill it (from the compressor) on the 50 and not on
>the 52.
>
>Mark
>
>
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>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flier
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:00 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>
>
>Thanks Dennis. All this time I thought the emergency was also being
>replenished but I just looked at the schematic. I'll be darn.
>Appreciate the reply.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440289#440289
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| Subject: | Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Hi all,
I need some reliable information
on CJ propellers in Canada.
Yesterday I have learned that allegedly
the 10 years rule applies to propellers
on Yaks and Cjs in Canada under
CAR Standard 507.03 (5)(b) - Ex-military Aircraft.
I also have been told that there is no overhaul
facility left in whole Canada and TC does not accept
have it overhauled and certified in the States.
Can anybody confirm that. Your advice would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance and Happy Easter.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Elmar,
Recently had the same question/problem come up with a customer from
Vancouver BC and we discovered that yes, the prop does have a 10 year life
in Canada, and no there does not seem to be any shops in Canada which are
able to overhaul the J9-G1 propeller. I also spoke to several shops here
in the US and was told that they no longer do experimental propellers. The
reason seems to be that the price they need to charge to cover supplies,
shop time, profit, and liability normally exceeds the cost of a new
propeller which is about $3750.00.
Doug
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I need some reliable information
> on CJ propellers in Canada.
>
> Yesterday I have learned that allegedly
> the 10 years rule applies to propellers
> on Yaks and Cjs in Canada under
> CAR Standard 507.03 (5)(b) - Ex-military Aircraft.
>
> I also have been told that there is no overhaul
> facility left in whole Canada and TC does not accept
> have it overhauled and certified in the States.
>
> Can anybody confirm that. Your advice would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance and Happy Easter.
>
> cheers
>
> Elmar
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Hi Elmar,
If you want to be sure and read the requirement, it is located as Standard
625 under the CARs.
It is interesting how many people don't actually follow this though.=C2-
It is clear in that Standard that we must overhaul at manufactures recommen
dations or 10 years which ever comes sooner, and many props the manufacture
r recommends 6 years, and everyone defaults to the 10 years.=C2- After al
l we never come close to the total hours.
What I'm currently scratching my head over is I can't find where it states
a variable pitched propeller must be done in an overhaul shop.=C2- The fi
xed pitch prop is clear; "the propeller shall be repaired by an organizatio
n approved for the overhaul of propellers.".
So if that is true (and it states elsewhere the overhaul must be done per t
he maintenance manual) we should be able to have our AME overhaul the prop
per the maintenance manual and we are good.=C2- You might want to challen
ge your AME with that and see what he/she says.
Jeff
On Monday, April 6, 2015 12:40 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> w
rote:
Elmar,Recently had the same question/problem come up with a customer from
Vancouver BC and we discovered that yes, the prop does have a 10 year life
in Canada, and no there does not seem to be any shops in Canada which are a
ble to overhaul the J9-G1 propeller.=C2- I also spoke to several shops he
re in the US and was told that they no longer do experimental propellers.
=C2- The reason seems to be that the price they need to charge to cover s
upplies, shop time, profit, and liability normally exceeds the cost of a ne
w propeller which is about $3750.00. =C2-=C2-
Doug
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I need some reliable information
on CJ propellers in Canada.
Yesterday I have learned that allegedly
the 10 years rule applies to propellers
on Yaks and Cjs in Canada under
CAR Standard 507.03 (5)(b) - Ex-military Aircraft.
I also have been told that there is no overhaul
facility left in whole Canada and TC does not accept
have it overhauled and certified in the States.
Can anybody confirm that. Your advice would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance and Happy Easter.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
No question that filling the emergency bottle with something like dry water pumped
nitrogen would be better than filling it from the engine compressor Jan.
But consider this: On your 50, empty the emergency bottle. Easy to do, just
loosen the fitting on the check valve on the firewall and let it bleed to zero.
Now connect to the external fill connection, and using dry water pumped nitrogen,
fill it back up to 50 Atmos. Unless your system leaks, that nitrogen will
stay in there for a LONG time. If you want, empty it every year and fill it
again to make sure. So you have now accomplished the same end that the 52 guys
have right now, but more importantly.. if you ever have to blow the gear down
with the emergency bottle AND IT DOES NOT WORK, you can fly around for awhile,
let both bottle fill back up and try it again.
Personally, I like that, a LOT. :-)
Mark
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on behalf of Jan Mevis [jan.mevis@informavia.be]
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
One of the reasons could be that the emergency bottle on the 52 gets
filled with perfectly dry air, from an industrial bottle.
So less probability of oxidation etc.
The water separator on the 50 can't do better than that.
I had to replace the water separator on my 50 almost immediately when I
bought it 10 years ago.
It was supposed to be overhauled in 2000 in Shakthy.
But I'm sure that they kept the original water separator from the eighties.
I still have it, I can simply blow through it without any effort.
Only an educated guess,
Jan
On 06/04/15 17:09, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>On the 50 it also is filled from the compressor.
>
>Wouldn't be too hard to change. I've always been curious why the
>Russians decided to fill it (from the compressor) on the 50 and not on
>the 52.
>
>Mark
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flier
>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:00 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>
>
>Thanks Dennis. All this time I thought the emergency was also being
>replenished but I just looked at the schematic. I'll be darn.
>Appreciate the reply.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440289#440289
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Hi Jeff & Doug,
thank you very much for your postings,
greatly appreciated.
There is one intriguing question: How do
I know when buying a "brand-new"
propeller that is it actually new and
not already 10 or more years since
date of manufacturing. I was told that
it is also the shelf life what expires, is
that true or merely scaremongering?
And what about those guys?
http://www.canadianpropeller.com/maintenance.htm
Thank you again.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
I can't quote chapter and verse and I very well may be wrong but it has
always been my understanding that it is from the date of installation. If
it was from date of mfg I would think that many of the CJs previously
imported from China into Canada would have run into this problem during the
licensing and certification process and we would have heard about any
"shelf life" issues years ago.
Doug
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff & Doug,
>
> thank you very much for your postings,
> greatly appreciated.
>
> There is one intriguing question: How do
> I know when buying a "brand-new"
> propeller that is it actually new and
> not already 10 or more years since
> date of manufacturing. I was told that
> it is also the shelf life what expires, is
> that true or merely scaremongering?
>
> And what about those guys?
>
> http://www.canadianpropeller.com/maintenance.htm
>
> Thank you again.
>
> cheers
>
> Elmar
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Hi Elmar,
That is an intriguing question. I have a friend who bought a propeller and had
it sitting for two years. Brand new and still took a two year hit, but I think
that had more to do with the paperwork than the prop. If he would have shipped
the prop to his house then handed it to the Ame the situation may have been
different. Again a question for your Ame who has to sign the for the prop install.
I've used both prop works and western prop. Prop works did the work on my f1rocket
prop and I was able to work with them on the assembly and install. Seemed
like reasonable enough guys.
Jeff
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jeff & Doug,
>
> thank you very much for your postings,
> greatly appreciated.
>
> There is one intriguing question: How do
> I know when buying a "brand-new"
> propeller that is it actually new and
> not already 10 or more years since
> date of manufacturing. I was told that
> it is also the shelf life what expires, is
> that true or merely scaremongering?
>
> And what about those guys?
>
> http://www.canadianpropeller.com/maintenance.htm
>
> Thank you again.
>
> cheers
>
> Elmar
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Update - got the check valve out with a surprising lack of injury or other frustration,
heated it up (thanks to Dennis for the hat-tip on that to avoid galling),
and it came apart easily. Looked like oil in there, along with what appeared
to be carbon deposit, not surprising it decided to start hanging up.
Will get a rebuild kit on the way tomorrow and then on to troubleshoot the gear
actuators.
(http://s11.photobucket.com/user/KahunaGrande/media/20150406_170018_zpsd4dpx7we.jpg.html)
(http://s11.photobucket.com/user/KahunaGrande/media/20150406_170031_zps9naifv7y.jpg.html)
(http://s11.photobucket.com/user/KahunaGrande/media/20150406_170130_zpshx3if7lv.jpg.html)
'Gimp
--------
Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Jeff;
I think you have misunderstood the prop overhaul info.
It is Std. 625, App.C =93 Out of Phase Tasks. You have quoted
Para. 5 (Variable Pitch) correctly but assumed incorrectly that, since
it does not specifically state =9Cby an approved organization
etc.=9D it can be overhauled by an AME. That is not the case.
Para. 6 =93 Fixed pitch propellors can be inspected for defects
and returned to service by an AME unless he determines that it requires
repair of any type. In which case it must be done by an overhaul
facility.
Walt
From: Jeff Deuchar
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeller Overhaul in Canada
Hi Elmar,
If you want to be sure and read the requirement, it is located as
Standard 625 under the CARs.
It is interesting how many people don't actually follow this though. It
is clear in that Standard that we must overhaul at manufactures
recommendations or 10 years which ever comes sooner, and many props the
manufacturer recommends 6 years, and everyone defaults to the 10 years.
After all we never come close to the total hours.
What I'm currently scratching my head over is I can't find where it
states a variable pitched propeller must be done in an overhaul shop.
The fixed pitch prop is clear; "the propeller shall be repaired by an
organization approved for the overhaul of propellers.".
So if that is true (and it states elsewhere the overhaul must be done
per the maintenance manual) we should be able to have our AME overhaul
the prop per the maintenance manual and we are good. You might want to
challenge your AME with that and see what he/she says.
Jeff
On Monday, April 6, 2015 12:40 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
wrote:
Elmar,
Recently had the same question/problem come up with a customer from
Vancouver BC and we discovered that yes, the prop does have a 10 year
life in Canada, and no there does not seem to be any shops in Canada
which are able to overhaul the J9-G1 propeller. I also spoke to several
shops here in the US and was told that they no longer do experimental
propellers. The reason seems to be that the price they need to charge
to cover supplies, shop time, profit, and liability normally exceeds the
cost of a new propeller which is about $3750.00.
Doug
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca>
wrote:
Hi all,
I need some reliable information
on CJ propellers in Canada.
Yesterday I have learned that allegedly
the 10 years rule applies to propellers
on Yaks and Cjs in Canada under
CAR Standard 507.03 (5)(b) - Ex-military Aircraft.
I also have been told that there is no overhaul
facility left in whole Canada and TC does not accept
have it overhauled and certified in the States.
Can anybody confirm that. Your advice would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance and Happy Easter.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Doug;
You are correct it is from date of installation.
Walt
From: doug sapp
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada
I can't quote chapter and verse and I very well may be wrong but it has
always been my understanding that it is from the date of installation.
If it was from date of mfg I would think that many of the CJs previously
imported from China into Canada would have run into this problem during
the licensing and certification process and we would have heard about
any "shelf life" issues years ago.
Doug
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca>
wrote:
Hi Jeff & Doug,
thank you very much for your postings,
greatly appreciated.
There is one intriguing question: How do
I know when buying a "brand-new"
propeller that is it actually new and
not already 10 or more years since
date of manufacturing. I was told that
it is also the shelf life what expires, is
that true or merely scaremongering?
And what about those guys?
http://www.canadianpropeller.com/maintenance.htm
Thank you again.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Overhaul in Canada |
Further to my last:-------
Some may think the prop overhaul requirements do not apply to
=9CSpecial C of A=9D category aircraft and they would be
right BUT only for Amateur Built and Owner Maintenance.
Walt
From: Walter Lannon
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeller Overhaul in Canada
Jeff;
I think you have misunderstood the prop overhaul info.
It is Std. 625, App.C =93 Out of Phase Tasks. You have quoted
Para. 5 (Variable Pitch) correctly but assumed incorrectly that, since
it does not specifically state =9Cby an approved organization
etc.=9D it can be overhauled by an AME. That is not the case.
Para. 6 =93 Fixed pitch propellors can be inspected for defects
and returned to service by an AME unless he determines that it requires
repair of any type. In which case it must be done by an overhaul
facility.
Walt
From: Jeff Deuchar
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propeller Overhaul in Canada
Hi Elmar,
If you want to be sure and read the requirement, it is located as
Standard 625 under the CARs.
It is interesting how many people don't actually follow this though. It
is clear in that Standard that we must overhaul at manufactures
recommendations or 10 years which ever comes sooner, and many props the
manufacturer recommends 6 years, and everyone defaults to the 10 years.
After all we never come close to the total hours.
What I'm currently scratching my head over is I can't find where it
states a variable pitched propeller must be done in an overhaul shop.
The fixed pitch prop is clear; "the propeller shall be repaired by an
organization approved for the overhaul of propellers.".
So if that is true (and it states elsewhere the overhaul must be done
per the maintenance manual) we should be able to have our AME overhaul
the prop per the maintenance manual and we are good. You might want to
challenge your AME with that and see what he/she says.
Jeff
On Monday, April 6, 2015 12:40 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
wrote:
Elmar,
Recently had the same question/problem come up with a customer from
Vancouver BC and we discovered that yes, the prop does have a 10 year
life in Canada, and no there does not seem to be any shops in Canada
which are able to overhaul the J9-G1 propeller. I also spoke to several
shops here in the US and was told that they no longer do experimental
propellers. The reason seems to be that the price they need to charge
to cover supplies, shop time, profit, and liability normally exceeds the
cost of a new propeller which is about $3750.00.
Doug
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca>
wrote:
Hi all,
I need some reliable information
on CJ propellers in Canada.
Yesterday I have learned that allegedly
the 10 years rule applies to propellers
on Yaks and Cjs in Canada under
CAR Standard 507.03 (5)(b) - Ex-military Aircraft.
I also have been told that there is no overhaul
facility left in whole Canada and TC does not accept
have it overhauled and certified in the States.
Can anybody confirm that. Your advice would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance and Happy Easter.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Housai Compression |
Guys & Jill, we did the annual compression test today on my CJ6 engine & it ranged
from 59-70 psi COLD. What is the minimum acceptable low? Thanks in advance.
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
I like this too.
Once a year I put the plane on jacks and check the emergency system too
(not having it slam the gear all the way).
At that occasion, both bottles are inspected and I refill completely with
industrial-quality dry air.
I thought about doing this annual check and refill with nitrogen, though.
She starts with nitrogen too (done it several times).
Jan
On 07/04/15 01:33, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>No question that filling the emergency bottle with something like dry
>water pumped nitrogen would be better than filling it from the engine
>compressor Jan.
>
>
>But consider this: On your 50, empty the emergency bottle. Easy to do,
>just loosen the fitting on the check valve on the firewall and let it
>bleed to zero.
>
>
>Now connect to the external fill connection, and using dry water pumped
>nitrogen, fill it back up to 50 Atmos. Unless your system leaks, that
>nitrogen will stay in there for a LONG time. If you want, empty it
>every year and fill it again to make sure. So you have now accomplished
>the same end that the 52 guys have right now, but more importantly.. if
>you ever have to blow the gear down with the emergency bottle AND IT DOES
>NOT WORK, you can fly around for awhile, let both bottle fill back up and
>try it again.
>
>
>Personally, I like that, a LOT. :-)
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>________________________________
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Jan Mevis
>[jan.mevis@informavia.be]
>Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:26 PM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>
>
>One of the reasons could be that the emergency bottle on the 52 gets
>filled with perfectly dry air, from an industrial bottle.
>So less probability of oxidation etc.
>The water separator on the 50 can't do better than that.
>I had to replace the water separator on my 50 almost immediately when I
>bought it 10 years ago.
>It was supposed to be overhauled in 2000 in Shakthy.
>But I'm sure that they kept the original water separator from the
>eighties.
>I still have it, I can simply blow through it without any effort.
>
>Only an educated guess,
>
>Jan
>
>On 06/04/15 17:09, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
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>><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
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>>On the 50 it also is filled from the compressor.
>>
>>Wouldn't be too hard to change. I've always been curious why the
>>Russians decided to fill it (from the compressor) on the 50 and not on
>>the 52.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flier
>>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:00 AM
>>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>>
>>
>>Thanks Dennis. All this time I thought the emergency was also being
>>replenished but I just looked at the schematic. I'll be darn.
>>Appreciate the reply.
>>
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>>Read this topic online here:
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>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440289#440289
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