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1. 06:02 AM - GT YAK blades (ALEXGTPROPELLERS)
2. 06:34 AM - WI Formation Clinic - NEW PARTICIPANT! (Rico Jaeger)
3. 06:46 AM - Re: WI Formation Clinic - NEW PARTICIPANT! (Richard Hess)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Air Leak Advice (AcroGimp)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
6. 10:27 AM - Re: Air Leak Advice (AcroGimp)
7. 11:12 AM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Rico Jaeger)
8. 01:28 PM - Re: Air Leak Advice (AcroGimp)
9. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
10. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Frank Stelwagon)
11. 02:50 PM - Re: Air Leak Advice (AcroGimp)
12. 04:37 PM - Re: GT YAK blades (Ttail)
13. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: GT YAK blades (Kregg Victory)
14. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: GT YAK blades-- Retract (Kregg Victory)
15. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Roger Kemp)
16. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Roger Kemp)
17. 07:26 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Roger Kemp)
18. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Roger Kemp)
19. 07:59 PM - Re: Re: Air Leak Advice (Roger Kemp)
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HI Yakkers,
I am glad to inform you that we at GT-Propellers will soon celebrate the production
of the 600th M14 blade which is compatible with the V530 D hub.
Great performance and trouble free!
See attached file with recent Australian Warbirds approval and an image of the
new squared blade properly sized to match 20" spinner.
Wood composite has a long, long history in aviation and guarantees no bad surprises!
Thanks all and Ciao
Alex Tonini
PS See another outstanding RV project radial powered with one of our custom CS
electric prop styled like a YAK !
https://www.facebook.com/radialconversions?fref=ts
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| Subject: | WI Formation Clinic - NEW PARTICIPANT! |
The 1st CJ is on board! And he (OK=2C I) would like to issue a challenge to
other CJ drivers to step up! We're now at 5 aircraft. Please consider join
ing us for all the Red Star flying and cheese curds you can eat! :)
Mmmm...deep fried cheese curds...the breakfast of champions!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau=2C WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //Hangar #35 / AUW
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1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //Hangar #21 / AUW
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| Subject: | Re: WI Formation Clinic - NEW PARTICIPANT! |
Rico,
I will do my best to be there with Mongoose, N600YK.
Cheers
Richard Hess
President
International Jets, Inc.
Cell 404-964-4885
-----Original Message-----
From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2015 9:35 am
Subject: Yak-List: WI Formation Clinic - NEW PARTICIPANT!
The 1st CJ is on board! And he (OK, I) would like to issue a challenge to other
CJ drivers to step up! We're now at 5 aircraft. Please consider joining us for
all the Red Star flying and cheese curds you can eat! :)
Mmmm...deep fried cheese curds...the breakfast of champions!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Failed the glove check, looks like compressor shear shaft. Mechanic's spare compressor
is here so I checked on it to see what it should look like, nothing on
the plane.
So next question is just how bad is removing the compressor, and other than the
occasional kickback, what other causes for shearing the shaft?
Thanks in advance.
'Gimp
--------
Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Age, gunk getting into compressor, compressor internal part failure, and just simply
wearing out, etc. Which is why I asked you how many hours were on it.
Removing the compressor is difficult and patience is required. You are going to
need the special tool that comes in the Russian tool kit. Otherwise you are
going to need to make special tools.
Jill at M14P sells a special kit that includes some special wrenches. I want
to say she reduces the nut size from 14mm to 10mm, but don't quote me on that
.. ask her. Regardless, you still have to take the original one off. I assume
you are going to replace the coupler and also put on a new or rebuild compressor.
Jill also has the correct gaskets needed, and be careful putting them
on, as they are easy to get backwards which will block an oil passage. Simply
put, it is not a lot of fun but do-able ... and it helps to have someone with
long thin fingers!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AcroGimp
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:50 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
Failed the glove check, looks like compressor shear shaft. Mechanic's spare compressor
is here so I checked on it to see what it should look like, nothing on
the plane.
So next question is just how bad is removing the compressor, and other than the
occasional kickback, what other causes for shearing the shaft?
Thanks in advance.
'Gimp
--------
Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Checked the logs and compressor has 41 hrs of operation.
I have had a reverse rotation/dieseling event I think twice in about 15-16 flights,
both times only a couple of blades but still it did happen. Last occurrence
was flight prior to flight where everything pumped up correctly, so 3 flights
ago.
When I overhauled the snot valve side check valve it was very dirty, the fill side
was clean, so I am planning to overhaul PRV and snot valve during this down
cycle, as well as putting a serious clean on the little piston valve in the
coupler at the bottom of the compressor.
Until I remove the old compressor I won't know if it is a shear shaft issue or
something else but I will absolutely check the compressor gasket for the oil passage.
Would you guys go back to the mech for compensation if the gasket was
installed incorrectly (asking, first airplane and all)?
Thanks for the support and info...
'Gimp
--------
Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Nuts are 11 mm. Trust me...I've birthed this baby 5 times. And you are corr
ect=2C probably impossible w/o the curved / flexing 11 mm Russian wrench. T
he lock washers are also very tough to align before even approaching w/ a n
ut since there is extremely little work space - and (looking at the compres
sor) the nut at about the 10:00 position in the most challenging. I used a
kind of "paste" to stick the hardware to my fingers because often you can o
nly get one (1) finger into the work space where the stud is. Once the nuts
are threaded=2C torquing is a cinch! Save yourself some time and invent so
me new curse words now. Not fun=2C but if you do it enough it can get to be
a less painful routine...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau=2C WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //Hangar #21 / AUW
> From: mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
> Date: Thu=2C 23 Apr 2015 16:40:20 +0000
>
mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Age=2C gunk getting into compressor=2C compressor internal part failure
=2C and just simply wearing out=2C etc. Which is why I asked you how many
hours were on it.
>
> Removing the compressor is difficult and patience is required. You are g
oing to need the special tool that comes in the Russian tool kit. Otherwis
e you are going to need to make special tools.
>
> Jill at M14P sells a special kit that includes some special wrenches. I
want to say she reduces the nut size from 14mm to 10mm=2C but don't quote
me on that .. ask her. Regardless=2C you still have to take the original
one off. I assume you are going to replace the coupler and also put on a n
ew or rebuild compressor. Jill also has the correct gaskets needed=2C and
be careful putting them on=2C as they are easy to get backwards which will
block an oil passage. Simply put=2C it is not a lot of fun but do-able .
.. and it helps to have someone with long thin fingers!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of AcroGimp
> Sent: Thursday=2C April 23=2C 2015 11:50 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>
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> Failed the glove check=2C looks like compressor shear shaft. Mechanic's
spare compressor is here so I checked on it to see what it should look like
=2C nothing on the plane.
>
> So next question is just how bad is removing the compressor=2C and other
than the occasional kickback=2C what other causes for shearing the shaft?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 'Gimp
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> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Another question, is there supposed to be a cooling horn pointed at the compressor?
Current install has a cooling tube from the front of the engine side that
just ends facing aft near the motor mount and could have had something on it
direct cooling air at the compressor but nothing I can see for this right now.
Just curious...
'Gimp
--------
Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Roger on 11 mm. I am pretty sure Jill's "better way of doing it" uses 10 mm to
allow for a little more space. Not saying that is the best way to go, just
saying I bought it to take a look and see.
And yes Gimp, there is supposed to be an air tube with a fitting on the end that
provides cooling air around the compressor. Sounds like you might be missing
the fitting. I forgot to mention "HEAT" as one of the things that can make
a compressor fail earlier than normal. :-)
Good luck and thanks Rico.
Mark
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]
on behalf of Rico Jaeger [rocknpilot@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
Nuts are 11 mm. Trust me...I've birthed this baby 5 times. And you are correct,
probably impossible w/o the curved / flexing 11 mm Russian wrench. The lock washers
are also very tough to align before even approaching w/ a nut since there
is extremely little work space - and (looking at the compressor) the nut at
about the 10:00 position in the most challenging. I used a kind of "paste" to
stick the hardware to my fingers because often you can only get one (1) finger
into the work space where the stud is. Once the nuts are threaded, torquing
is a cinch! Save yourself some time and invent some new curse words now. Not fun,
but if you do it enough it can get to be a less painful routine...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW
> From: mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 16:40:20 +0000
>
>
> Age, gunk getting into compressor, compressor internal part failure, and just
simply wearing out, etc. Which is why I asked you how many hours were on it.
>
> Removing the compressor is difficult and patience is required. You are going
to need the special tool that comes in the Russian tool kit. Otherwise you are
going to need to make special tools.
>
> Jill at M14P sells a special kit that includes some special wrenches. I want
to say she reduces the nut size from 14mm to 10mm, but don't quote me on that
.. ask her. Regardless, you still have to take the original one off. I assume
you are going to replace the coupler and also put on a new or rebuild compressor.
Jill also has the correct gaskets needed, and be careful putting them on,
as they are easy to get backwards which will block an oil passage. Simply put,
it is not a lot of fun but do-able ... and it helps to have someone with long
thin fingers!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AcroGimp
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:50 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>
>
> Failed the glove check, looks like compressor shear shaft. Mechanic's spare compressor
is here so I checked on it to see what it should look like, nothing
on the plane.
>
> So next question is just how bad is removing the compressor, and other than the
occasional kickback, what other causes for shearing the shaft?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 'Gimp
>
> --------
> Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Byron Fox on this list has composite cooling horns.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "AcroGimp" <jlknolla@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:27 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Air Leak Advice
>
> Another question, is there supposed to be a cooling horn pointed at the
> compressor? Current install has a cooling tube from the front of the
> engine side that just ends facing aft near the motor mount and could have
> had something on it direct cooling air at the compressor but nothing I can
> see for this right now.
>
> Just curious...
>
> 'Gimp
>
> --------
> Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
pfstelwagon(at)earthlink. wrote:
> Byron Fox on this list has composite cooling horns.
>
> Frank
> ---
Thanks Frank, I expect to see Blitz tomorrow at Porterville and will ask when I
see him.
Thanks
'Gimp
--------
Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: GT YAK blades |
Has the AWAL Revised YAK52 Maintenancee Schedule been published ?
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| Subject: | Re: GT YAK blades |
No I don't think so. Are you out the United States? I will not ship out of
the United States, Just a FYI
Thanks,
Kregg
Victory Aero
2502 John Montgomery Dr.
San Jose, CA 95148
408-836-5122
www.victoryhangar.com
www.balancemyprop.com
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ttail
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: GT YAK blades
Has the AWAL Revised YAK52 Maintenancee Schedule been published ?
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| Subject: | Re: GT YAK blades-- Retract |
Disregard my last email. It was sent in Error to the wrong email address..
Kregg V
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ttail
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: GT YAK blades
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
The A/C probably had more kick backed before you got it. It will sheer also it
the compressor is working against a high pressure to protect the compressor accessory
drive gears.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 10:50 AM, AcroGimp <jlknolla@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Failed the glove check, looks like compressor shear shaft. Mechanic's spare
compressor is here so I checked on it to see what it should look like, nothing
on the plane.
>
> So next question is just how bad is removing the compressor, and other than the
occasional kickback, what other causes for shearing the shaft?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 'Gimp
>
> --------
> Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Gimp,
Which gasket are you referring to? The aluminum crush washer on the check valve
or the gasket on the accessory drive case. It is real tough to get the gasket
forming the oil seal on base of the compressor as it mates to the accessory case
wrong. I guess if you really worked hard at it one could though.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:27 PM, AcroGimp <jlknolla@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Checked the logs and compressor has 41 hrs of operation.
>
> I have had a reverse rotation/dieseling event I think twice in about 15-16 flights,
both times only a couple of blades but still it did happen. Last occurrence
was flight prior to flight where everything pumped up correctly, so 3 flights
ago.
>
> When I overhauled the snot valve side check valve it was very dirty, the fill
side was clean, so I am planning to overhaul PRV and snot valve during this down
cycle, as well as putting a serious clean on the little piston valve in the
coupler at the bottom of the compressor.
>
> Until I remove the old compressor I won't know if it is a shear shaft issue or
something else but I will absolutely check the compressor gasket for the oil
passage. Would you guys go back to the mech for compensation if the gasket was
installed incorrectly (asking, first airplane and all)?
>
> Thanks for the support and info...
>
> 'Gimp
>
> --------
> Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441181#441181
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Yes, for the 52 but not the 50.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:27 PM, AcroGimp <jlknolla@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Another question, is there supposed to be a cooling horn pointed at the compressor?
Current install has a cooling tube from the front of the engine side that
just ends facing aft near the motor mount and could have had something on
it direct cooling air at the compressor but nothing I can see for this right now.
>
> Just curious...
>
> 'Gimp
>
> --------
> Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
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| Subject: | Re: Air Leak Advice |
Sorry Mark, your answers did not show up on my email chain until now. Yes the gasket
can be put on backwards but is pretty obvious if you fit the gasket to the
base of the compressor first with Permatex 51813 anaerobic gasket maker. The
alignment of the oil holes will be intuitive and the sealant does not for until
it is heated.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote:
>
>
> Gimp,
> Which gasket are you referring to? The aluminum crush washer on the check valve
or the gasket on the accessory drive case. It is real tough to get the gasket
forming the oil seal on base of the compressor as it mates to the accessory
case wrong. I guess if you really worked hard at it one could though.
> Doc
>
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>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:27 PM, AcroGimp <jlknolla@aol.com> wrote:
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>> Checked the logs and compressor has 41 hrs of operation.
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>> I have had a reverse rotation/dieseling event I think twice in about 15-16 flights,
both times only a couple of blades but still it did happen. Last occurrence
was flight prior to flight where everything pumped up correctly, so 3 flights
ago.
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>> When I overhauled the snot valve side check valve it was very dirty, the fill
side was clean, so I am planning to overhaul PRV and snot valve during this
down cycle, as well as putting a serious clean on the little piston valve in the
coupler at the bottom of the compressor.
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>> Until I remove the old compressor I won't know if it is a shear shaft issue
or something else but I will absolutely check the compressor gasket for the oil
passage. Would you guys go back to the mech for compensation if the gasket
was installed incorrectly (asking, first airplane and all)?
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>> Thanks for the support and info...
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>> 'Gimp
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Not sure what Apple auto correct was trying to say?? "The sealant does not activate
until it is heated."
Doc
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> On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote:
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> Sorry Mark, your answers did not show up on my email chain until now. Yes the
gasket can be put on backwards but is pretty obvious if you fit the gasket to
the base of the compressor first with Permatex 51813 anaerobic gasket maker.
The alignment of the oil holes will be intuitive and the sealant does not for
until it is heated.
> Doc
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>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com> wrote:
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>> Gimp,
>> Which gasket are you referring to? The aluminum crush washer on the check valve
or the gasket on the accessory drive case. It is real tough to get the gasket
forming the oil seal on base of the compressor as it mates to the accessory
case wrong. I guess if you really worked hard at it one could though.
>> Doc
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>>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:27 PM, AcroGimp <jlknolla@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Checked the logs and compressor has 41 hrs of operation.
>>>
>>> I have had a reverse rotation/dieseling event I think twice in about 15-16
flights, both times only a couple of blades but still it did happen. Last occurrence
was flight prior to flight where everything pumped up correctly, so 3
flights ago.
>>>
>>> When I overhauled the snot valve side check valve it was very dirty, the fill
side was clean, so I am planning to overhaul PRV and snot valve during this
down cycle, as well as putting a serious clean on the little piston valve in
the coupler at the bottom of the compressor.
>>>
>>> Until I remove the old compressor I won't know if it is a shear shaft issue
or something else but I will absolutely check the compressor gasket for the oil
passage. Would you guys go back to the mech for compensation if the gasket
was installed incorrectly (asking, first airplane and all)?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the support and info...
>>>
>>> 'Gimp
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Owner/Pilot N6209F 1987 Yak-52
>>> COMM/ASEL/IFR/HP-Complex/TW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441181#441181
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