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1. 02:12 PM - Re: Motor oil (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
2. 05:05 PM - Re: Flying the Wilga (Yak Ron)
3. 05:16 PM - NE Wilga! (Yak Ron)
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Thanks for the correction Walt!
You are, without a doubt, a real wealth of knowledge! No joke.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]
on behalf of Roger Kemp [f16viperdoc@me.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Motor oil
Good post Walt. I had forgotten all that. So much info so few brain bits.
Doc
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> On May 8, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> The Phillips designation is actually X/C 25W60.
>
> A quick description of the viscosity identification as some may be confused by
the different numbers: --
>
> The original aviation designation for oil viscosity measurement was given in
Saybolt Universal Seconds or SUS. That is still in use by Shell, Exxon and others
for their traditional oils. E.G. Aeroshell 65, 80, 100 and 120. Multi-grade
aviation oils use the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) designation
system. E.G. Aeroshell 15W50, Phillips X/C 20W50 and 25W60.
>
> Correlation:-- SUS 120 = SAE 60, SUS 100 = SAE 50, SUS 80 = SAE 40.
>
> Walt
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 4:29 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Motor oil
>
>
> The main consideration with this kind of oil is the temperature extremes that
you experience. Ernie's Aeroshell 100 is fine if you live in a stable climate
with very little temperature change.
>
>
> Otherwise Phillips 20-60W Radial Engine Oil is the way to go.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]
on behalf of Ernest Martinez [erniel29@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 6:15 PM
> To: yak-list
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Motor oil
>
> My local Sams Club carries the Aeroshell 100. If you have one local ask them
to stock it.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Dave Laird <freighttrain@mac.com<mailto:freighttrain@mac.com>> wrote:
> Jon,
>
> http://www.airplaneoil.com/AeroShell_w100_Oil_p/aero100w-qts.htm?gclid=COKD6YuSs8UCFQsJaQodyrIAKg
>
>
> One way to get it...
>
> If you go to the Phillips, I'd get 25W60...
> It's made for radials.
>
> Some people say the Phillips leaks out of the engine more than the Aeroshell.
>
>
> If you search the yak-list with the matronics search engine you'll get a lot
of opinions on this very subject from over many years!
>
> Dave Laird
> N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> On May 8, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net<mailto:jblake207@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Need your opinions... I've always used Aeroshell 100 straight 50 weight oil.
However, the local oil company where I've always bought my oil went out of business.
Through another local company I can get the multi viscosity Phillips 20w50,
but not sure about using it in a round motor, especially in the hot environment
of the SE US. What say you? JB
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Subject: | Re: Flying the Wilga |
[quote="crobin(at)skyvantage.com"]I currently own a Wilga. (wilgabeast.com (http://wilgabeast.com))
If you have any specific questions not answered here, let me know! 801.599.7715
I love my Wilga!
Cory.
We are assembling a wilga that we inported from Poland a couple months ago. Have
one nagging problem with generator not coming on line. Changed voltage regualtors,
no change. Ohmed wires, OK. Schematic doesnt show a small black box that
looks like interconnected with generator switch? Any advice for troubleshooting
further would be appreciated. YakRon
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Genzlinger, Reade wrote:
>
> Elmar:
>
> My experience and opinions re: Wilga 104-80 after 8 years of ownership:
> - typical eastern bloc aircraft - over engineered over built
> - very well built - hand work is amazing
> - very tough, very stable aircraft
> - controls are very heavy but very responsive
> - IA 14 R is essentially a de-rated version of M-14P 250 hp vs.
> 360 (some have installed the 360 - I've flow one - better climb but no
> faster)
> - very low compression - very easy to hand prop. Prop is 9"
> longer than YK-52 paddle prop - same profile.
> - maintenance is very typical. Mine was a 1994 model with very
> little use when I got it. Had to replace the rubber tips on all the air
> check valves, had to replace the air start distributer (I don't think
> prior owner bled the snot valve very often), and replaced the generator
> with an alternator. That's about it other than usual wear and tear.
> - parts are not regularly available any more - there is a guy in
> Florida that bought all the Mielex (original US distributor for PZL)
> parts but don't know his status any more. Engine parts are available -
> many are interchangeable with M-14p. Air system is similar to YK-52
> except that it uses two 3 liter air bottles for air storage. The air is
> for start only.
> - climb at 64 kt, cruise at 88, descend at 64 and land at 54.
> Only holds 48 gallons. My rule of thumb was 2 hours or 200 miles -
> - brakes are hydraulic disc and are OK - not great, but
> perfectly adequate
> - the mufflers were a factory option for European noise
> requirements - they do make it very quiet - I was told it costs about 3%
> in performance.
> - the landing gear is trailing link - very effective. It's a
> baby on grass and a pig on pavement. The arm from mains to tail wheel
> is very long so if you don't keep it straight it has a mind of its own.
>
> - It feels like a lumbering giant and is very stable.
> Visibility is great for rides.
>
> I bought it because I had all the support gear already - same air hook
> up, tools, many parts as Yak, etc. It came with boxes of spare parts,
> control locks, covers, excellent manuals for all systems and the largest
> wheel chocks I've ever seen. The seats are very comfortable, cockpit is
> very spacious and you can stuff a lot of gear in the back. Gave it up
> when we moved to Wyoming as it is not a great performer at 9000 plus
> density altitudes. Went with the Super Cub and Husky.
>
> I do not think PZL/EADS is directly supporting the 80. Don't know about
> the 2000.
>
> Reade
>
> Reade Genzlinger
> Cairnwood Cooperative Corporation
> 215.914.0370
>
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Great to see some comments and interest in the Wilga! We are finishing assembling
a wilga we imported from Poland and all going well, except for the generator
which will not come on line. R&R voltage regulators, no change, ohmed check
wiring OK..Ran it at different RPM's no change. Schematic doesn't show a small
black box that seems to be interconnected to system, but not sure what it does?
Any advice or troubleshooting tips, from some of you wilga experts would
be appreciated. Yak Ron
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