---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/21/15: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:10 AM - Grease (Ernest Martinez) 2. 09:21 AM - Re: Grease (Robin Hou) 3. 09:35 AM - Re: Grease (Walter Lannon) 4. 09:38 AM - Re: Grease (Ernest Martinez) 5. 10:19 AM - Re: Grease (Justin Drafts) 6. 05:45 PM - Re: CJ6 Housai (JL2A) 7. 06:12 PM - Overhauled engine preservation (JL2A) 8. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: CJ6 Housai (Tom Elliott) 9. 06:59 PM - Re: M-14B installation in CJ (JL2A) 10. 10:25 PM - Re: Re: M-14B installation in CJ (Richard Goode) 11. 11:16 PM - Re: M-14B installation in CJ (JL2A) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:15 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Grease From: Ernest Martinez It's been a while since I've had to purchase any. What kind of grease do most folks use on the CJ's? Thanks Ernie ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:33 AM PST US From: Robin Hou Subject: Re: Yak-List: Grease I use high temp red grease for my wheel bearings, the rest of the airframe gets Aeroshell No. 6 from my grease gun. Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pa&cv=6.3.30&pv=4.4.4] On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Ernest Martinez < erniel29@gmail.com [erniel29@gmail.com] > wrote: It's been a while since I've had to purchase any. What kind of grease do most folks use on the CJ's? Thanks Ernie [http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List] [http://www.matronics.com/contribution] ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:27 AM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Grease Ernie; I use and recommend Aeroshell 5. Walt From: Ernest Martinez Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:09 AM Subject: Yak-List: Grease It's been a while since I've had to purchase any. What kind of grease do most folks use on the CJ's? Thanks Ernie ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Grease From: Ernest Martinez Thanks Walt. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Walter Lannon wrote: > Ernie; > > I use and recommend Aeroshell 5. > > Walt > > *From:* Ernest Martinez > *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:09 AM > *To:* yak-list > *Subject:* Yak-List: Grease > > It's been a while since I've had to purchase any. What kind of grease do > most folks use on the CJ's? > > Thanks > > Ernie > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com ">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Grease From: Justin Drafts I use Aeroshell #5 almost everywhere, certainly in all my landing gear zerk fittings. I believe the (crappy) paint shop used Aeroshell #6 for my flight control's small bearings, when they had them disassembled/off for paint. Justin N280NC On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote: > It's been a while since I've had to purchase any. What kind of grease do > most folks use on the CJ's? > > Thanks > > Ernie > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:19 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ6 Housai From: "JL2A" thanks for the replies. Tom are all your cylinders LOP? Curious as to how even the mixture distribution is on the HS6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442430#442430 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:04 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Overhauled engine preservation From: "JL2A" Hi all, I have an overhauled HS6 from China in a crate. I received it maybe 9 months ago, and it won't need to go into the aircraft for another year or two. I understand the factory does some pickling of their own when these engines are overhauled, but: 1) how good is the factory pickling? The book calls for pushing oil through the air compressor, carburettor, oil and fuel pumps, as well as No.257 anti-rust grease in the cylinders, and filling the case fully with No.257 grease. Our last engine we put in is still going strong but it just had what looked like engine oil in it when we uncrated it. Would the Phillips Anti-Rust 20W-50 do the job in preserving the bottom and top ends rather than whatever No.257 anti-rust grease is? 2) if I were to re-do the preservation job, what would be the best way to go about it? Obviously it'd be nice to trust the factory had done the right job but then for the price of these motors these days seems no harm in checking... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442433#442433 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:03 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: CJ6 Housai Cannot say for sure as I only have one channel EGT. But it runs smooth and as I keep going lean of peak the power just drops off never any roughness. Another Cj-6 that I fly has a 9 Ch. EGT on a M14 with throttle body fuel injection and all 9 cyl stay very even and you can lean to cut off with no roughness. Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 777 Quartz Ave PMB 7004 Sandy Valley NV 89019 Cell 541-297-5497 N13472@AOL.COM -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:44 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ6 Housai thanks for the replies. Tom are all your cylinders LOP? Curious as to how even the mixture distribution is on the HS6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442430#442430 much more: ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:16 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: M-14B installation in CJ From: "JL2A" Hi Richard, you mention there is no three blade (aerobatic) propeller that would fit onto the spine shaft of M14B, I have 2 of the 3 JL2A propellers in existence, which fit onto the HS6 - I'm going to assume it's the same spline as the M14B? We have investigated getting another JL2A for someone else in Australia but the factory only ever made 3, apparently. However, they did mention that if we ordered five (5!) that they would be willing to build more. Price at a guess would be around US$12k each including backing plate and spinner. Not sure of the cost of a M14P gearbox + install but thought it may be an option for your customers with the B engines. If someone knew the genesis of the JL2A I'd love to know! Was it to fit on the HS6D engine of around 400hp? But then why the splined shaft.. or is that what the JL2B was for (flange fitting). Cheers Anatole Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442436#442436 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:21 PM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: M-14B installation in CJ Yes, I have heard of the prop and thought someone might mention it! This was a reason that I specifically mentioned "aerobatic" since I understand it to be really quite heavy, and probably not suitable for anything more than gentle aerobatics. I have been told that the splined shaft on the AI 14 and HS-6 engines it is not a strong as the shaft on the M 14 P. Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A Sent: 22 May 2015 02:59 Subject: Yak-List: Re: M-14B installation in CJ Hi Richard, you mention there is no three blade (aerobatic) propeller that would fit onto the spine shaft of M14B, I have 2 of the 3 JL2A propellers in existence, which fit onto the HS6 - I'm going to assume it's the same spline as the M14B? We have investigated getting another JL2A for someone else in Australia but the factory only ever made 3, apparently. However, they did mention that if we ordered five (5!) that they would be willing to build more. Price at a guess would be around US$12k each including backing plate and spinner. Not sure of the cost of a M14P gearbox + install but thought it may be an option for your customers with the B engines. If someone knew the genesis of the JL2A I'd love to know! Was it to fit on the HS6D engine of around 400hp? But then why the splined shaft.. or is that what the JL2B was for (flange fitting). Cheers Anatole Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442436#442436 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:16:40 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: M-14B installation in CJ From: "JL2A" I thought that's why you put 'aerobatic' there! Yes, whole set up weighs nearly 50kg I think, from memory. Still, if anyone knows of an operator that wants a 3 blade prop for CJs and can still be flown as non-experimental (insert your country's term) then please pm me. (In Oz we are in Limited category for fare paying passengers, must have factory built / approved bits) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442442#442442 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.