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1. 08:22 AM - Re: Battle of Palmdale (nylbrooks)
2. 10:25 AM - Re: Speed disputes? (Rico Jaeger)
3. 04:56 PM - Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (JL2A)
4. 05:46 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Hank Gibson)
5. 05:48 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (George Coyantonov2)
6. 06:48 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Roger Kemp)
7. 08:04 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (migfighter42)
8. 08:39 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
9. 08:42 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
10. 08:47 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
11. 08:51 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
12. 09:00 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
13. 10:01 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Bill Geipel)
14. 10:14 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
15. 10:20 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
16. 10:28 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Dan Payne)
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| Subject: | Re: Battle of Palmdale |
Cool story Doug, Thanks!
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Weeeeellllll DONE!!!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau=2C WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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> Date: Wed=2C 27 May 2015 19:46:12 -0400
> From: cpayne@joimail.com
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Speed disputes?
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> So says the List:
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> >"To counter John's translation=2C the above labels also mean "I fly fast
er and further
> >than Yak's" =3B-)"
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> >Not all YAKS Robin ...... :-)
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> >Mark
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> Harken ye knaves of the Round Engine=2C tall tales of deeds never done ar
e worth nought a single farthing. Disputes between Gentlemen of the Red Sta
r realm can only be settled on the Field of Honor. Join me on the 19th day
of July at the Plain of Mt. Vernon=2C IL (KMVN)on a quest for the AirVentur
e Cup. A journey of 410 Leagues across vast oceans of air. Only then can Wi
nners be sorted from Whiners and Wieners.
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> Enter before June 1st and save a few shillings. See http://www.airventure
cuprace.com/
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| Subject: | Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we flew then
I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cuts again,
goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then these items
were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a split second,
but enough to get your attention.
Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-range'
mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, same thing).
Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an earth is going
on, intermittent failures are the worst!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
I would say your mag coils are going bad after getting hot. Experienced it myself
and know of another case and once mags were either replaced or at least the
coil/s the problem disappeared. I would consult the experts directly though
for more in-depth troubleshooting.
Good luck- Hoot
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> On May 28, 2015, at 4:55 PM, "JL2A" <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we flew then
I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
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> cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cuts again,
goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then these
items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>
> The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a split second,
but enough to get your attention.
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> Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-range'
mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, same thing).
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> Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an earth is
going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
I suspect you're getting air in the system someplace. The pressure carburetor
will not tolerate any air bubbles. Check the gas collator had all the fittings.
George
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> On May 28, 2015, at 7:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we flew then
I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
>
> cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cuts again,
goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then these
items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>
> The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a split second,
but enough to get your attention.
>
> Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-range'
mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, same thing).
>
> Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an earth is
going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 minutes of
the flight.
Doc
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> On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we flew then
I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
>
> cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cuts again,
goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then these
items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>
> The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a split second,
but enough to get your attention.
>
> Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-range'
mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, same thing).
>
> Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an earth is
going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Diving? 80 & 8?
Airspeed builds...engine starts to miss?
Dennis Savarese is the man to talk to...he will tell you the fix...I would t
ell you how to do it, but do not wish the glory...For Dennis informed me, an
d it worked.
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote:
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> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircraft
would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses. r
eplaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>
> Bill
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> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. start
s.
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>
> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 minu
tes of the flight.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we fl
ew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
> >
> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cu
ts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then
these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
> >
> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a sp
lit second, but enough to get your attention.
> >
> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-
range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, sa
me thing).
> >
> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an ear
th is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Also,
Have you pulled the top cover (MAG) and lubed the breaker felts with Machine
oil (I.e. 3-1 singer seeing machine oil) ??
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero Sevive
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircraft
would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses. r
eplaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. start
s.
>
>
> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 minu
tes of the flight.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we fl
ew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
> >
> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cu
ts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then
these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
> >
> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a sp
lit second, but enough to get your attention.
> >
> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-
range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, sa
me thing).
> >
> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an ear
th is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Adjust the points/ breaker felts on the mags...
Let not forget the dwell timing / distributor advance in our GTOs we drove t
o high school...
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero Service
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircraft
would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses. r
eplaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. start
s.
>
>
> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 minu
tes of the flight.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we fl
ew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
> >
> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, cu
ts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but then
these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
> >
> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a sp
lit second, but enough to get your attention.
> >
> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid-
range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, sa
me thing).
> >
> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an ear
th is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
I have to reapectfully disagree with Doc Kemp on that accord...I suspect a b
roken lead in the ignition harness, or a cracked ceramic in one if you 18 ex
isting plugs...
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero Services
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:42 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Also,
>
> Have you pulled the top cover (MAG) and lubed the breaker felts with Machi
ne oil (I.e. 3-1 singer seeing machine oil) ??
>
> Keep 'em Flyin',
>
> Dan Payne
> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
> (423)-544-8946
>
> Volunteer Aero Sevive
> Dallas Bay Skypark
> 1824 E Crabtree Road
> Hixson, TN 37343
>
> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>
>
>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote
:
>>
>> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircraf
t would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses. r
eplaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. star
ts.
>>
>>
>> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 min
utes of the flight.
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we f
lew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
>> >
>> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, c
uts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but the
n these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>> >
>> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a s
plit second, but enough to get your attention.
>> >
>> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid
-range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, s
ame thing).
>> >
>> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an ea
rth is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
P.S.:
Why don't you all adjust your valves??
I do many annuals on "rich" people's airplanes who know nothing about Radial
s....
The engines are reliable. The airframes are bullet proof, and Denis Savarese
is your go to guy on 4th & 10!
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero Services
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Adjust the points/ breaker felts on the mags...
>
>
> Let not forget the dwell timing / distributor advance in our GTOs we drove
to high school...
>
> Keep 'em Flyin',
>
> Dan Payne
> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
> (423)-544-8946
>
> Volunteer Aero Service
> Dallas Bay Skypark
> 1824 E Crabtree Road
> Hixson, TN 37343
>
> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>
>
>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wrote
:
>>
>> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircraf
t would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses. r
eplaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. star
ts.
>>
>>
>> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 min
utes of the flight.
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we f
lew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result -
>> >
>> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes, c
uts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but the
n these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>> >
>> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a s
plit second, but enough to get your attention.
>> >
>> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'mid
-range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture, s
ame thing).
>> >
>> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an ea
rth is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
>> >
>> >
>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Adjust my what?? v-a-l-v-e-s? Like consonants?
You do many annuals? You must be =9Crich"
I=99m not =9Crich=9D, no nothing about radials, why
should I, we have guys like you that are willing to do it while we
lounge by the pool, fly, camp, hike, bike, fly some more etc.
So everyone gets what they want.
I see your company name says =9CVolunteer=9D well, don=99
t. Problem for you, solved.
Shot mine, NOT bullet proof.
Keep smiling.
Bill Geipel
Owner, pilot, not A&P-IA
can=99t afford cell phone.
On May 29, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
> P.S.:
>
> Why don't you all adjust your valves??
>
> I do many annuals on "rich" people's airplanes who know nothing about
Radials....
>
> The engines are reliable. The airframes are bullet proof, and Denis
Savarese is your go to guy on 4th & 10!
>
> Keep 'em Flyin',
>
> Dan Payne
> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
> (423)-544-8946
>
> Volunteer Aero Services
> Dallas Bay Skypark
> 1824 E Crabtree Road
> Hixson, TN 37343
>
> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>
>
> On May 28, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> Adjust the points/ breaker felts on the mags...
>>
>>
>> Let not forget the dwell timing / distributor advance in our GTOs we
drove to high school...
>>
>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>
>> Dan Payne
>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>> (423)-544-8946
>>
>> Volunteer Aero Service
>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>
>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>
>>
>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the
aircraft would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then
dramatic misses. replaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went
away.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>>> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops.
starts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to
15 minutes of the flight.
>>> Doc
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au>
wrote:
>>> >
<info@flyingwarbirds.com.au>
>>> >
>>> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time
we flew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same
result -
>>> >
>>> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly,
goes, cuts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it
again but then these items were actioned after running fine for a few
seconds.
>>> >
>>> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only
for a split second, but enough to get your attention.
>>> >
>>> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the
'mid-range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise'
mixture, same thing).
>>> >
>>> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what
an earth is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>> >
>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Do you "no" or "Know" nothing about radials?
I'm not on this list to get into a dick measuring contest. Your wife may be h
otter than mine, but I can assure you that I pay more attention to my airpla
nes than my own "better half"
Let me remind you we are all on this list to help each other...
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 29, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Adjust my what?? v-a-l-v-e-s? Like consonants?
>
> You do many annuals? You must be =9Crich"
>
> I=99m not =9Crich=9D, no nothing about radials, why shou
ld I, we have guys like you that are willing to do it while we lounge by the
pool, fly, camp, hike, bike, fly some more etc.
> So everyone gets what they want.
> I see your company name says =9CVolunteer=9D well, don=99
t. Problem for you, solved.
> Shot mine, NOT bullet proof.
>
> Keep smiling.
>
> Bill Geipel
> Owner, pilot, not A&P-IA
> can=99t afford cell phone.
>
>
>> On May 29, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> P.S.:
>>
>> Why don't you all adjust your valves??
>>
>> I do many annuals on "rich" people's airplanes who know nothing about Rad
ials....
>>
>> The engines are reliable. The airframes are bullet proof, and Denis Savar
ese is your go to guy on 4th & 10!
>>
>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>
>> Dan Payne
>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>> (423)-544-8946
>>
>> Volunteer Aero Services
>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>
>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>
>>
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Adjust the points/ breaker felts on the mags...
>>>
>>>
>>> Let not forget the dwell timing / distributor advance in our GTOs we dro
ve to high school...
>>>
>>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>>
>>> Dan Payne
>>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>>> (423)-544-8946
>>>
>>> Volunteer Aero Service
>>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>>
>>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wro
te:
>>>>
>>>> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircr
aft would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses
. replaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>>>> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. st
arts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 m
inutes of the flight.
>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we
flew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result
-
>>>> >
>>>> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes,
cuts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but t
hen these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>>>> >
>>>> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a
split second, but enough to get your attention.
>>>> >
>>>> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'm
id-range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture,
same thing).
>>>> >
>>>> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an e
arth is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.matronics.com/Navig=============
=============p; -=======
====================nbsp;
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.<==============
===========
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Ps....if you throw fuel to it mid-flight and it burst back to life...I would
suspect a worn out engine driven pump...
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 29, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Adjust my what?? v-a-l-v-e-s? Like consonants?
>
> You do many annuals? You must be =9Crich"
>
> I=99m not =9Crich=9D, no nothing about radials, why shou
ld I, we have guys like you that are willing to do it while we lounge by the
pool, fly, camp, hike, bike, fly some more etc.
> So everyone gets what they want.
> I see your company name says =9CVolunteer=9D well, don=99
t. Problem for you, solved.
> Shot mine, NOT bullet proof.
>
> Keep smiling.
>
> Bill Geipel
> Owner, pilot, not A&P-IA
> can=99t afford cell phone.
>
>
>> On May 29, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> P.S.:
>>
>> Why don't you all adjust your valves??
>>
>> I do many annuals on "rich" people's airplanes who know nothing about Rad
ials....
>>
>> The engines are reliable. The airframes are bullet proof, and Denis Savar
ese is your go to guy on 4th & 10!
>>
>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>
>> Dan Payne
>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>> (423)-544-8946
>>
>> Volunteer Aero Services
>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>
>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>
>>
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Adjust the points/ breaker felts on the mags...
>>>
>>>
>>> Let not forget the dwell timing / distributor advance in our GTOs we dro
ve to high school...
>>>
>>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>>
>>> Dan Payne
>>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>>> (423)-544-8946
>>>
>>> Volunteer Aero Service
>>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>>
>>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wro
te:
>>>>
>>>> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the aircr
aft would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misses
. replaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>>>> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. st
arts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 m
inutes of the flight.
>>>> Doc
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time we
flew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same result
-
>>>> >
>>>> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes,
cuts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but t
hen these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>>>> >
>>>> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a
split second, but enough to get your attention.
>>>> >
>>>> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the 'm
id-range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture,
same thing).
>>>> >
>>>> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an e
arth is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
However..."engine cuts abruptly, goes, cuts again, goes. Mixture full rich, c
arb heat on, didn't do it again but then these items were actioned after run
ning fine for a few seconds."
If you went full rich, then turned on the carb heat (making the mixture even
more rich) that's answers you own dilemma / question.
Change the fuel pump
Keep 'em Flyin',
Dan Payne
Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
(423)-544-8946
Volunteer Aero Service
Dallas Bay Skypark
1824 E Crabtree Road
Hixson, TN 37343
"Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
> On May 29, 2015, at 1:19 AM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Ps....if you throw fuel to it mid-flight and it burst back to life...I wou
ld suspect a worn out engine driven pump...
>
> Keep 'em Flyin',
>
> Dan Payne
> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
> (423)-544-8946
>
> Volunteer Aero
> Dallas Bay Skypark
> 1824 E Crabtree Road
> Hixson, TN 37343
>
> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>
>
>> On May 29, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Adjust my what?? v-a-l-v-e-s? Like consonants?
>>
>> You do many annuals? You must be =9Crich"
>>
>> I=99m not =9Crich=9D, no nothing about radials, why sho
uld I, we have guys like you that are willing to do it while we lounge by th
e pool, fly, camp, hike, bike, fly some more etc.
>> So everyone gets what they want.
>> I see your company name says =9CVolunteer=9D well, don=99
t. Problem for you, solved.
>> Shot mine, NOT bullet proof.
>>
>> Keep smiling.
>>
>> Bill Geipel
>> Owner, pilot, not A&P-IA
>> can=99t afford cell phone.
>>
>>
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> P.S.:
>>>
>>> Why don't you all adjust your valves??
>>>
>>> I do many annuals on "rich" people's airplanes who know nothing about Ra
dials....
>>>
>>> The engines are reliable. The airframes are bullet proof, and Denis Sava
rese is your go to guy on 4th & 10!
>>>
>>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>>
>>> Dan Payne
>>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>>> (423)-544-8946
>>>
>>> Volunteer Aero Services
>>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>>
>>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Dan Payne <dantpayne@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Adjust the points/ breaker felts on the mags...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let not forget the dwell timing / distributor advance in our GTOs we dr
ove to high school...
>>>>
>>>> Keep 'em Flyin',
>>>>
>>>> Dan Payne
>>>> Owner, Pilot, A&P-IA
>>>> (423)-544-8946
>>>>
>>>> Volunteer Aero Service
>>>> Dallas Bay Skypark
>>>> 1824 E Crabtree Road
>>>> Hixson, TN 37343
>>>>
>>>> "Where Airworthiness Means Business!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:03 PM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>>>>>
>>>>> my experience with that problem is the same as Doc mentioned. the airc
raft would run fine until warmed up, normally in flight, then dramatic misse
s. replaced the coils in the magnetos, the problem went away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>>>>> Date: 05/28/2015 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. s
tarts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mag coil going bad will also do that. Typically occurs about 10 to 15 m
inutes of the flight.
>>>>> Doc
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> > On May 28, 2015, at 6:55 PM, JL2A <info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote
:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi all, my formation partner had a bit of engine trouble last time w
e flew then I took the same plane up for a shake down and got the same resul
t -
>>>>> >
>>>>> > cruise power, 10 minutes into the flight, engine cuts abruptly, goes
, cuts again, goes. Mixture full rich, carb heat on, didn't do it again but t
hen these items were actioned after running fine for a few seconds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The cuts were hard, as in no power not just roughness, and only for a
split second, but enough to get your attention.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Speaking to two local CJ/Yak experts and they say it is likely the '
mid-range' mixture adjustment (I think the CJ book calls it 'cruise' mixture
, same thing).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Has anyone here experienced the same? Would be curious as to what an
earth is going on, intermittent failures are the worst!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Read this topic online here:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442717#442717
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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