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Tue 06/16/15


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 05:57 AM - HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (Harv)
     2. 06:10 AM - Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 06:15 AM - Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 06:26 AM - Newby with a Quick Question (Steve Jones)
     5. 07:41 AM - Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (Harv)
     6. 07:54 AM - Firewall fuel shut off valve and U/C lever (aerostar6)
     7. 07:58 AM - Re: Newby with a Quick Question (Javier Carrasco)
     8. 07:58 AM - Re: Newby with a Quick Question (Javier Carrasco)
     9. 08:14 AM - Re: Newby with a Quick Question (Terry Calloway)
    10. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (doug sapp)
    11. 09:25 AM - CJ Gear leg lights (Byron Fox)
    12. 09:29 AM - Re: CJ Gear leg lights (KingCJ6@aol.com)
    13. 09:59 AM - Re: CJ Gear leg lights (Ernest Martinez)
    14. 10:45 AM - Re: CJ Gear leg lights (Walter Lannon)
    15. 10:51 AM - Yak Airspeed Indicator Error (Stewart Nicholson)
    16. 10:55 AM - Re: CJ Gear leg lights (Ernest Martinez)
    17. 12:52 PM - Re: Yak Airspeed Indicator Error (A. Dennis Savarese)
    18. 02:59 PM - Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (Harv)
    19. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (doug sapp)
    20. 05:56 PM - Re: CJ Gear leg lights (Walter Lannon)
    21. 07:21 PM - Re: Yak Airspeed Indicator Error (Stu)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:57:01 AM PST US
    Subject: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Good afternoon I have a faulty oil pressure displaying in the front cockpit of my Chang, it started intermittently reading and now pops up to a reading of 5 or zero as soon as the engine instruments are switched on (engine not running!). Could someone enlighten me if there is more than one pressure sender on the engine or if one unit supplies the readings to both cockpit instruments? I should add the rear gauge reads fine with engine running. Just trying to cut down investigation time by narrowing down if I have a instrument or sender problem here. Cheers Harv Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443606#443606


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    Time: 06:10:53 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    There are two fuel pressure senders. Mostlike the one for front cockpithas gone T.U. A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 6/16/2015 7:56 AM, Harv wrote: > > Good afternoon > > I have a faulty oil pressure displaying in the front cockpit of my Chang, it started intermittently reading and now pops up to a reading of 5 or zero as soon as the engine instruments are switched on (engine not running!). > > Could someone enlighten me if there is more than one pressure sender on the engine or if one unit supplies the readings to both cockpit instruments? I should add the rear gauge reads fine with engine running. > > Just trying to cut down investigation time by narrowing down if I have a instrument or sender problem here. > > Cheers > > Harv > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443606#443606 > >


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    Time: 06:15:33 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    Sorry about the typo's. I have no idea what happened. It should read, "Most Likely the one for the front cockpit has gone T.U." A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 6/16/2015 8:10 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > There are two fuel pressure senders. Mostlike the one for front > cockpithas gone T.U. > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-546-8182 (mobile) > www.yak-52.com > Skype - Yakguy1 > > On 6/16/2015 7:56 AM, Harv wrote: >> >> Good afternoon >> >> I have a faulty oil pressure displaying in the front cockpit of my >> Chang, it started intermittently reading and now pops up to a reading >> of 5 or zero as soon as the engine instruments are switched on >> (engine not running!). >> >> Could someone enlighten me if there is more than one pressure sender >> on the engine or if one unit supplies the readings to both cockpit >> instruments? I should add the rear gauge reads fine with engine running. >> >> Just trying to cut down investigation time by narrowing down if I >> have a instrument or sender problem here. >> >> Cheers >> >> Harv >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443606#443606 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:26:05 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Jones" <727gs@db3broadband.com>
    Subject: Newby with a Quick Question
    Greetings, My name is Steve and I'm currently getting a CJ-6 flying that's been sitting a while. My father bought a CJ from Yakkity back in '97, flew it for a while and then had some health issues. The airplane sat for 5 or 6 years and I've finally talked him into getting it running again. We pushed it to the wash rack, drained the old fuel, in the process of changing the oil and giving it a serious going through. My biggest question has to do with books. We have the set of five blue parts manuals from Fred but Dad said there was a Flight Manual which we can't find. I talked to Doug Sapp and Byron Fox. Byron said he'd look around and Doug sold me a set of maint. books. Does anyone have a copy of the FOM or know where I might get a copy? In addition, if you've got any words of wisdom about what to watch for while we get this thing ready to fly, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Steve Jones near Chicago my hangars at KENW CJ is at Sandwich, near KARR


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    Time: 07:41:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    This is the oil pressure, not fuel pressure. Are there 2 oil senders? Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443620#443620


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    Time: 07:54:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Firewall fuel shut off valve and U/C lever
    From: "aerostar6" <mwlevy@btinternet.com>
    Anyone know whether the Yak 50 /Yak 52 firewall shut off valve has user replaceable parts inside? My valve has started leaking, so I need to know if there is a seal replacement kit around, or valve replacement. ......and if the usual suspects are lurking, does anyone have a gear selector assembly for sale..........and a light bulb test switch? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443621#443621


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    Time: 07:58:33 AM PST US
    From: Javier Carrasco <javiercarrascob@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Newby with a Quick Question
    My 2 cents:=0A=0A=0AGet the airplane inspected and certified by a mechanic that knows CJs or,Yaks.=0A=0AGet a CJ pilot to fly it before you do. And ge t formal instruction on the plane. Specially if you want to do acro work. =0A=0A=0AIt will, save you money and keep you and your plane in one piece. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Android=0A=0AFrom:"Steve Jones" <727 gs@db3broadband.com>=0ADate:Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM=0ASubject:Yak-Lis t: Newby with a Quick Question=0A=0AGreetings,=0A=0A-=0A=0AMy name is Ste ve and I'm currently getting a CJ-6 flying that's been sitting a while.=0A =0AMy father bought a CJ from Yakkity back in '97, flew it for a while and then had some health issues. The airplane sat for 5 or 6 years and I've fin ally talked him into getting it running again. We pushed it to the wash rac k, drained the old fuel, in the process of changing the oil and giving it a serious going through.=0A=0A-=0A=0AMy biggest question has to do with bo oks. We have the set of five blue parts manuals from Fred but Dad said ther e was a Flight Manual which we can't find. I talked to Doug Sapp and Byron Fox. Byron said he'd look around and Doug sold me a set of maint. books.=0A =0A-=0A=0ADoes anyone have a copy of the FOM or know where I might get a copy?=0A=0A-=0A=0AIn addition, if you've got any words of wisdom about wh at to watch for while we get this thing ready to fly, I'd appreciate it.=0A =0A-=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0A=0ASteve Jones=0A=0Anear Chicago=0A=0Amy h angars at KENW=0A=0ACJ is at Sandwich, near KARR=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:58:33 AM PST US
    From: Javier Carrasco <javiercarrascob@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Newby with a Quick Question
    My 2 cents:=0A=0A=0AGet the airplane inspected and certified by a mechanic that knows CJs or,Yaks.=0A=0AGet a CJ pilot to fly it before you do. And ge t formal instruction on the plane. Specially if you want to do acro work. =0A=0A=0AIt will, save you money and keep you and your plane in one piece. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Android=0A=0AFrom:"Steve Jones" <727 gs@db3broadband.com>=0ADate:Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM=0ASubject:Yak-Lis t: Newby with a Quick Question=0A=0AGreetings,=0A=0A-=0A=0AMy name is Ste ve and I'm currently getting a CJ-6 flying that's been sitting a while.=0A =0AMy father bought a CJ from Yakkity back in '97, flew it for a while and then had some health issues. The airplane sat for 5 or 6 years and I've fin ally talked him into getting it running again. We pushed it to the wash rac k, drained the old fuel, in the process of changing the oil and giving it a serious going through.=0A=0A-=0A=0AMy biggest question has to do with bo oks. We have the set of five blue parts manuals from Fred but Dad said ther e was a Flight Manual which we can't find. I talked to Doug Sapp and Byron Fox. Byron said he'd look around and Doug sold me a set of maint. books.=0A =0A-=0A=0ADoes anyone have a copy of the FOM or know where I might get a copy?=0A=0A-=0A=0AIn addition, if you've got any words of wisdom about wh at to watch for while we get this thing ready to fly, I'd appreciate it.=0A =0A-=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0A=0ASteve Jones=0A=0Anear Chicago=0A=0Amy h angars at KENW=0A=0ACJ is at Sandwich, near KARR=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:14:29 AM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Newby with a Quick Question
    All of those recommendations can be accomplished at Avcraft in Columbus, NE and other places however those are the guys that bought out Yakkity Yaks. Good luck. Pumper > On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Javier Carrasco <javiercarrascob@yahoo.com> wrote: > > My 2 cents: > > Get the airplane inspected and certified by a mechanic that knows CJs or,Yaks. > > Get a CJ pilot to fly it before you do. And get formal instruction on the plane. Specially if you want to do acro work. > > It will, save you money and keep you and your plane in one piece. > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > From:"Steve Jones" <727gs@db3broadband.com> > Date:Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM > Subject:Yak-List: Newby with a Quick Question > > Greetings, > > > My name is Steve and I'm currently getting a CJ-6 flying that's been sitting a while. > > My father bought a CJ from Yakkity back in '97, flew it for a while and then had some health issues. The airplane sat for 5 or 6 years and I've finally talked him into getting it running again. We pushed it to the wash rack, drained the old fuel, in the process of changing the oil and giving it a serious going through. > > > My biggest question has to do with books. We have the set of five blue parts manuals from Fred but Dad said there was a Flight Manual which we can't find. I talked to Doug Sapp and Byron Fox. Byron said he'd look around and Doug sold me a set of maint. books. > > > Does anyone have a copy of the FOM or know where I might get a copy? > > > In addition, if you've got any words of wisdom about what to watch for while we get this thing ready to fly, I'd appreciate it. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Steve Jones > > near Chicago > > my hangars at KENW > > CJ is at Sandwich, near KARR > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >


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    Time: 08:54:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Harv, Yes, there is a fuel pressure and a oil pressure transducer for each cockpit. Sometimes there is enough slack in the wire bundle to swap the cannon plugs to test the units and wiring. Most often the problem is located in the wiring. We do stock the triple gauges, transducers, and also the cannon plugs if your find that is the problem. All that said it is not uncommon for just the oil pressure sector of the triple gauge to fail internally. But when that happens you will normally not see any "needle bounce" when power is applied to the system. Swapping the instruments between cockpits would be my first check. Best, Doug On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com> wrote: > > This is the oil pressure, not fuel pressure. > > Are there 2 oil senders? > > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443620#443620 > >


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    Time: 09:25:44 AM PST US
    From: Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com>
    Subject: CJ Gear leg lights
    Does anyone know of a 24 volt LED replacement bulb for the three gear leg lights? ....not that I have any intention of flying my day/VFR-only CJ at night Blitz Fox 415-307-2405


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    Time: 09:29:58 AM PST US
    From: KingCJ6@aol.com
    Subject: Re: CJ Gear leg lights
    Do you want the chrome variety? In a message dated 6/16/2015 9:25:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, byronmfox@gmail.com writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> Does anyone know of a 24 volt LED replacement bulb for the three gear leg lights? ....not that I have any intention of flying my day/VFR-only CJ at night Blitz Fox 415-307-2405


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    Time: 09:59:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ Gear leg lights
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Do a yak-list search for SuperBrite LEDS On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know of a 24 volt LED replacement bulb for the three gear leg > lights? > ....not that I have any intention of flying my day/VFR-only CJ at night > > Blitz Fox > 415-307-2405 > >


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    Time: 10:45:52 AM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: CJ Gear leg lights
    Blitz; Superbrite LED. Can't recall the P/N right now but is a 2 pole, 14mm base. it is the tail light as well and I have the LED bulb in mine. The gear lights are long ago relegated to the spare parts bin. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Byron Fox Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:25 AM Subject: Yak-List: CJ Gear leg lights Does anyone know of a 24 volt LED replacement bulb for the three gear leg lights? ....not that I have any intention of flying my day/VFR-only CJ at night Blitz Fox 415-307-2405


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    Time: 10:51:48 AM PST US
    From: Stewart Nicholson <stewart@primexprocess.com>
    Subject: Yak Airspeed Indicator Error
    The ASI in our front cockpit started reading 10-15% high about 2 months ago . This error has been verified in formation with others at various speeds a nd in stalls (it breaks at about 140 km/h indicated vs. 120 km/h normally). I haven't had a chance to compare with rear cockpit; nevertheless, suspect something wrong with static side. Any suggestions? Stew Nicholson '96 Yak 52 N122GC


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    Time: 10:55:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ Gear leg lights
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    3BA9S-G4-32-28VAC Green 32 Degree 28V2.983BA9S-R4-32-28VAC Red 32 Degree 28 V 1.98*SubTotal:*$14.88*Shipping:*$6.00*TOTAL:**$20.88*=C2=AE 2002-2014 Super Bright LEDs Inc. 4400 Earth City Expressway St. Louis, Missouri 63045-1328 On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Blitz; > > Superbrite LED. > Can't recall the P/N right now but is a 2 pole, 14mm base. it is the > tail light as well and I have the LED bulb in mine. > The gear lights are long ago relegated to the spare parts bin. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- From: Byron Fox > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:25 AM > To: Yak List > Subject: Yak-List: CJ Gear leg lights > > > Does anyone know of a 24 volt LED replacement bulb for the three gear leg > lights? > ....not that I have any intention of flying my day/VFR-only CJ at night > > Blitz Fox > 415-307-2405 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 12:52:57 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Yak Airspeed Indicator Error
    If there is a static leak inside the fuselage, you may be able to see the c hange by opening and closing one of the slider canopies.=C2- Many years a go, that's how I found the static leak on my personal Yak 52,=C2- which c aused my airspeed indicator to read high.=C2- Closed the canopy and the a irspeed would drop.=C2- Open it and the airspeed would increase. Dennis From: Stewart Nicholson <stewart@primexprocess.com> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:51 PM Subject: Yak-List: Yak Airspeed Indicator Error <!--#yiv2706843709 _filtered #yiv2706843709 {font-family:"Cambria Math";pa nose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2706843709 {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2706843709 #yiv2706843709 p.yiv270684370 9MsoNormal, #yiv2706843709 li.yiv2706843709MsoNormal, #yiv2706843709 div.yi v2706843709MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;fon t-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv2706843709 a:link, #yiv2706843709 span. yiv2706843709MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv270 6843709 a:visited, #yiv2706843709 span.yiv2706843709MsoHyperlinkFollowed {c olor:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2706843709 span.yiv2706843709Em ailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv2706843 709 .yiv2706843709MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filte red #yiv2706843709 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2706843709 div.yiv2 706843709WordSection1 {}-->The ASI in our front cockpit started reading 10- 15% high about 2 months ago. This error has been verified in formation with others at various speeds and in stalls (it breaks at about 140 km/h indica ted vs. 120 km/h normally). I haven=99t had a chance to compare with rear cockpit; nevertheless, suspect something wrong with static side.=C2- Any suggestions? Stew Nicholson =9996 Yak 52 N122GC


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    Time: 02:59:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Doug Thanks for your reply and thoughts on this. Just to make my life a little easier, could you identify for me where on the engine the pressure transducers for the oil are? Thanks again 8) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443647#443647


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    Time: 03:14:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Harv, They are not on the engine, they are on the back side of the front firewall. Look at the back of the engine and locate the small oil pressure line which runs from the engine to a dual fitting on the firewall. You should see two such fittings, one with a black hose (FUEL) and one with a reddish hose (OIL). The transducers are on the back side of the fire at that position. OR See your parts book #2, page 4, see item #29. Those two round things are your FUEL transducers. For the OIL transducers see page 23, item #23 of the same book. Parts books contain a wealth of knowledge. Best from here, Doug On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com> wrote: > > Doug > Thanks for your reply and thoughts on this. > > Just to make my life a little easier, could you identify for me where on > the engine the pressure transducers for the oil are? > > Thanks again 8) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443647#443647 > >


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    Time: 05:56:11 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: CJ Gear leg lights
    Blitz; The P/N you are looking for is 1142-W-15. The B9S series is what you would use for panel indicator lighting. Walt From: Ernest Martinez Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Gear leg lights 3 BA9S-G4-32-28VAC Green 32 Degree 28V 2.98 3 BA9S-R4-32-28VAC Red 32 Degree 28V 1.98 SubTotal: $14.88 Shipping: $6.00 TOTAL: $20.88 =C2=AE 2002-2014 Super Bright LEDs Inc. 4400 Earth City Expressway St. Louis, Missouri 63045-1328 On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: Blitz; Superbrite LED. Can't recall the P/N right now but is a 2 pole, 14mm base. it is the tail light as well and I have the LED bulb in mine. The gear lights are long ago relegated to the spare parts bin. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Byron Fox Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:25 AM To: Yak List Subject: Yak-List: CJ Gear leg lights Does anyone know of a 24 volt LED replacement bulb for the three gear leg lights? ....not that I have any intention of flying my day/VFR-only CJ at night Blitz Fox 415-307-2405 ========== List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Subject: Re: Yak Airspeed Indicator Error
    From: "Stu" <stewart@primexprocess.com>
    Thanks Dennis. I'll give the canopy test a try. Stew -------- Stewart Nicholson Yak 52 N122GC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=443652#443652




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