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1. 06:10 AM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (JL2A)
2. 06:38 AM - M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls (George S. Coy)
3. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Jan Mevis)
4. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
5. 07:52 AM - Re: M14PEngines-List: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
6. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: M14PEngines-List: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls (cjpilot710)
7. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Todd McCutchan)
8. 09:29 AM - Re: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls (doug sapp)
9. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Richard Goode)
10. 11:11 AM - Re: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls (George S. Coy)
11. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Jan Mevis)
12. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Jan Mevis)
13. 01:30 PM - Re: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
14. 02:55 PM - Schrader valve fittings (Jon Blake)
15. 03:09 PM - Re: Schrader valve fittings (Ernest Martinez)
16. 03:28 PM - Re: Schrader valve fittings (A. Dennis Savarese)
17. 03:59 PM - Re: Schrader valve fittings (Jon Blake)
18. 04:00 PM - Re: Schrader valve fittings (Jon Blake)
19. 04:24 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (JL2A)
20. 04:54 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (JL2A)
21. 08:21 PM - LBQ-3 Wave Filter (jetjockey)
22. 10:20 PM - Re: CJ Main Landing Light (av8ter)
23. 10:27 PM - Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. (av8ter)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Interesting stuff!
good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more efficient way of
producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on the front of a Yak
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444222#444222
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| Subject: | M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls |
The attachment is a listing and an aid in identification of the Gaskets and
Seals used on the M14P engines.
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
802-868-6632 Fax
<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com> george.coy@gmail.com
<http://motorstarna.com/> http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
The R-985 is about 70 kg heavier than the M14x so it would be a serious
balance problem bolting this on a Yak.
The R-985 also has a much larger displacement I think.
So, the Russian design is rather good: more power for less engine weight
(but I am biased, I admit it).
Jan
On 30/06/15 15:07, "JL2A" <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf
of info@flyingwarbirds.com.au> wrote:
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>Interesting stuff!
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>good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more efficient
>way of producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on the front
>of a Yak
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444222#444222
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
I would be remiss if I did not ask how you define efficiency? Typically it is
fuel burned to energy produced, and I would agree with you there, but then there
is the matter of weight. I believe it is correct to say that the M-14 series
produces more power to weight than any other radial built.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:08 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts.
Interesting stuff!
good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more efficient way of
producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on the front of a Yak
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444222#444222
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| Subject: | RE: M14PEngines-List: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls |
THIS IS GREAT George! Darn valuable. Thanks!
Mark
p.s. Doc. 17 & 18
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George S. Coy
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:34 AM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls
The attachment is a listing and an aid in identification of the Gaskets and Seals
used on the M14P engines.
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
802-868-6632 Fax
george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
http://motorstarna.com/ <http://motorstarna.com/>
SKYPE george.coy
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| Subject: | RE: M14PEngines-List: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls |
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Are there any M-14R's around?
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com
> On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitte
rlich@navy.mil> wrote:
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bitterlich@navy.mil>
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> I would be remiss if I did not ask how you define efficiency? Typically i
t is fuel burned to energy produced, and I would agree with you there, but t
hen there is the matter of weight. I believe it is correct to say that the M
-14 series produces more power to weight than any other radial built.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:08 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. start
s.
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> Interesting stuff!
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> good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more efficient w
ay of producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on the front of a Y
ak
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444222#444222
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| Subject: | Re: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls |
George,
Thanks for that, it's interesting how many of the CJ gaskets are the same.
Are pages 7 through 12 supposed to be blank??
Doug
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:34 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
> The attachment is a listing and an aid in identification of the Gaskets
> and Seals used on the M14P engines.
>
>
> *George Coy*
>
> *MotorstarNA*
>
> *714 Airport Rd.*
>
> *Swanton VT 05488*
>
> *802-868-5633 <802-868-5633> off*
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> *802-363-5782 <802-363-5782> cell*
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> *802-868-6632 <802-868-6632> Fax*
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> *george.coy@gmail.com <george.coy@gmail.com>*
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You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
can't do both.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Without checking my records, we sold about eight, and although I had
exclusivity for the M 14 R under my agreement to fund the development of
the engine with Vedenyeev, they certainly made a few others and sold
them privately!
They certainly delivered the power we wanted, and indeed Ramon Alonso
won the 2007 World Championship using one. However there were problems
=93 the supercharger bearings failed if used at full power
extensively and so had to be replaced; the standard oil cooler was not
sufficient, and then Vedenyeev began to cheat on various other contracts
I had, so I stopped dealing with them!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd McCutchan
Sent: 30 June 2015 17:10
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops.
starts.
Are there any M-14R's around?
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com
On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
I would be remiss if I did not ask how you define efficiency?
Typically it is fuel burned to energy produced, and I would agree with
you there, but then there is the matter of weight. I believe it is
correct to say that the M-14 series produces more power to weight than
any other radial built.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:08 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops.
starts.
Interesting stuff!
good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more
efficient way of producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on
the front of a Yak
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444222#444222
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| Subject: | M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls |
Yes, only 6 pages. The M14 was based on the AI14RA which was the father
of the Housai as well. I believe the original Housai engines were
license built AI4 engines. The Motorstar factory received an Housai from
China to quote on overhauls and found it pretty much identical to the
AI14.
We offer the 3 ring pistons for the AI14 ( and Housai) with
your choice of compression ratio as well. We have sold several sets with
8:1 ratio for guys who use only 100LL. Adds significant horsepower.
George
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M14P Gaskets List Prices.xls
George,
Thanks for that, it's interesting how many of the CJ gaskets are the
same.
Are pages 7 through 12 supposed to be blank??
Doug
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:34 AM, George S. Coy <george.coy@gmail.com>
wrote:
The attachment is a listing and an aid in identification of the Gaskets
and Seals used on the M14P engines.
George Coy
MotorstarNA
714 Airport Rd.
Swanton VT 05488
802-868-5633 off
802-363-5782 cell
802-868-6632 Fax
george.coy@gmail.com
http://motorstarna.com/
SKYPE george.coy
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Doug
You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
can't do both.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
I have one on my Yak 50.
Jan
From: <owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Todd McCutchan
<todd@fastaircraft.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops.
starts.
Are there any M-14R's around?
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com <http://www.fastaircraft.com>
On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
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> I would be remiss if I did not ask how you define efficiency? Typically it
> is fuel burned to energy produced, and I would agree with you there, but then
> there is the matter of weight. I believe it is correct to say that the M-14
> series produces more power to weight than any other radial built.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:08 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts.
>
>
> Interesting stuff!
>
> good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more efficient way
> of producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on the front of a Yak
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
I consider myself being very lucky to have bought one from you, Richard!
This engine is absolutely amazing.
It turned my Yak 50 into an exceptional plane.
Jan
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
Todd, realistically these model engines are in my mind "proof of concept" versions
with a few extras made in the process. Rumor has it that M-14P.com (Jill)
might have had some at one time. Worth asking if you want to go this path.
Also keep in mind that in order to run one of these engines on a continual basis,
you better have contacts to get parts and mechanics that know the engine to
begin with. While I might drool over Jan's 50 (and I have), I would not want
to maintain it in the United States. That is of course just a personal decision.
But a very reasonable alternative exists, and that is Monty Barrett. That gent
has added home grown fuel injection, new ignition system, new higher compression
(and quality) pistons and has taken the 360 HP M-14P to a tested 400 HP.
Further, he made the same changes to the M-14PF (normally stock 400 HP) and
sold one of those engines to Hubie Tolson for his Sukhoi 31. I have personally
witnessed the increase in vertical penetration of his aircraft with this engine
and it is an awesome change. Dyno runs on the modified PF model have it
up around 430 HP, which is very close to Jan's engine but does so without spinning
up the supercharger to extremely high speeds, thus it is an engine that should
last a lot longer, and burn much less fuel (and oil due to the gapless ring
design).
If you are looking for a real improvement to the M-14 original design, done with
American parts and ingenuity, this is your answer.
Mark
p.s. This takes nothing away from Jan's 50. It is a one of a kind monster and
I'd do all kinds of bad things just to be able to fly it once! :-)
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd McCutchan
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts.
Are there any M-14R's around?
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com
On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
wrote:
I would be remiss if I did not ask how you define efficiency? Typically it is
fuel burned to energy produced, and I would agree with you there, but then there
is the matter of weight. I believe it is correct to say that the M-14 series
produces more power to weight than any other radial built.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JL2A
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:08 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts.
Interesting stuff!
good to compare it to the R-985, which frankly seems a way more efficient way
of producing 450hp. But would look a bit funny hanging on the front of a Yak
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| Subject: | Schrader valve fittings |
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| Subject: | Re: Schrader valve fittings |
Here you go.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=SCHRADER+6116+HIGH+PRESSURE+STRUT+COUPLER+-+1%2F8+NPT+FEMALE+-+3000+PSIG&x=0&y=0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DBFZLU0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
http://www.amazon.com/3Skull-Paintball-Scuba-Nitrogen-Station/dp/B0000B3600/ref=pd_sim_sbs_200_9?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QY07RWGXADYMJYZT6XZ
Ernie
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
> Does anyone have a source for a Schrader valve fitting that would fit onto
> a standard scuba hose and then the airplane? JB
>
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| Subject: | Re: Schrader valve fittings |
http://www.skygeek.com/schrader-6116-high-pressure-inflating-connection.html
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 6/30/2015 4:52 PM, Jon Blake wrote:
> Does anyone have a source for a Schrader valve fitting that would fit
> onto a standard scuba hose and then the airplane? JB
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
> The R-985 is about 70 kg heavier than the M14x so it would be a serious
> balance problem bolting this on a Yak.
> The R-985 also has a much larger displacement I think.
> So, the Russian design is rather good: more power for less engine weight
> (but I am biased, I admit it).
Yes absolutely agree, hence my hanging it off a Yak comment. Wouldn't suit. It
is more cubes, more weight, pure and simple.
The automatic carb is interesting in that it sounds basically like it is not suitable
for this application, unless like Mark suggests they are run flat out,
keeping them rich enough to keep ICPs in check. Reducing the power should not
mean CHTs rise I would have thought, only reason they are rising is the carb has
now made the mixture not rich enough for the power being produced. Going LOP
would do the same thing more efficiently as was common practise on US radials,
but alas, automatic carb! (and no 130 octane etc of course)
Plus it is bolted to the front of an aerobatic plane, so I guess it IS suitable,
depends on the application!
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
So this thread was started because my formation partner's CJ had a distinct but
very brief cough a few times. Not just roughness but a very short but complete
cut, then back to normal.
In all cases it happened returning to base, reducing power.
We got two new coils, ready to be installed, but the aircraft was taken for a flight
before the mags were touched. The engine did not miss a beat. Peculiar to
this flight was the pilot missed that the carb heat had been left on by the
engineers. He has not noticed it until the next flight, where he turned it off
and sure enough, reducing power blup cut blurp.
I did not entertain carb ice seriously enough as in my CJ I have never in over
3000 flights had to use the carb heat! It has skipped a couple times but never
this dead cut feel, and always at very low power (finals) and it was obvious
it was carb ice.
Speaking to other CJ drivers they are the same, very rare to use carb heat.
This aircraft is unique, as far as I can tell, in that when they rebuilt it they
did not put the chin scoop on the lower cowl. There is just a cut out where
the wire mesh 'filter' is below the carb (it has very fine wire gauze on it, not
just the factory rock catcher)
I find it strange that without the chin scoop this engine is far more susceptible
to carby icing than without! Do not have an answer for that, except the air
may be slightly warmer with the chin scoop, being bathed in engine heat for a
microsecond - but I wouldn't have thought it'd make a significant difference.
Anyway, bit disappointed it is likely not the coils - it seemed to fit! It still
may be, but the evidence is pretty strong the other way.
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| Subject: | LBQ-3 Wave Filter |
What is the consensus regarding retaining the LBQ-3 Wave Filter on a CJ6A after
an alternator conversion? Is it preferred (or even necessary) to keep it or
is it better to just remove it with the conversion? Thanks for the input.
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Main Landing Light |
simple....
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| Subject: | Re: Engine roughness, as in stops. starts. stops. starts. |
You can make that M-14 a cousin of Space X's Falcon 9 but you better keep a close
eye on that TBO....It's a finicky enough power plant in the stock condition...
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