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1. 06:03 AM - Re: More Newby Questions (Greg Wrobel)
2. 08:20 AM - Re: More Newby Questions (Steve Jones)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: More Newby Questions (Kurt Howerton)
4. 10:31 AM - nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing (keithmckinley)
5. 10:45 AM - Re: More Newby Questions (keithmckinley)
6. 11:17 AM - Re: More Newby Questions (DaBear)
7. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: More Newby Questions (doug sapp)
8. 11:30 AM - Re: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing (jblake207@comcast.net)
9. 12:09 PM - Re: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing (Byron Fox)
10. 02:36 PM - Re: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing (keithmckinley)
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| Subject: | Re: More Newby Questions |
Steve, I should have said when you blow thru the vent tube on the lower
wing, make sure it is very low 10psi max or less!!! In addition, I would
agree with Doug Sapps comments regarding finding a good CJ/ YAK mechanic to
go thru the airplane with you or someone that is real familiar with it.
On Jul 5, 2015 10:55 PM, "Steve Jones" <727gs@db3broadband.com> wrote:
> In my effort to get the family CJ flying, I have a couple more questions.
>
>
> -What is the torque for the spark plugs? I pulled, cleaned and tested
> them. Anyone know what the gap is supposed to be?
>
> -How much oil is supposed to be in it? I drained the tank, nosecase,
> strainer, and oil cooler.
>
> -Someone mentioned flapper valves between the fuel tanks and the header
> tank. The only valve like that I could find in my manuals was a check valve
> in the fuselage forward of the wing leading edge. Is that something I
> should remove and clean?
>
> -What is the issue about fuel useage between the wing tanks? I've heard
> that mentioned a couple times.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steve near Chicago
>
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>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | More Newby Questions |
Doug,
I take no offense and you are correct. Like I said earlier, the airplane
has been sitting a few years and is out of condition inspection. I've
been asking around and there doesn't appear to be any CJ/Yak experts in
the Chicago area. Lynn Hadler at Lake-in-the-Hills who used to take care
of it retired last year and apparently moved to Tennesee. Dave Monroe
and the Aerostar guys are training another guy on their airplanes to do
their maintenance but he hasn't been around any CJ's. This side of
offering you an airline ticket out to Chicago to look over my airplane,
I have to investigate other options.
That being said, the CJ is is one of several airplanes we have built,
restored and operate, ranging from gliders to aerobatic aircraft to
other warbirds. I realize that that none of them is a CJ and I agree
with your suggestion top have an experienced CJ guy to help out but I
haven't had much luck there. I do have some former CJ owners helping out
and the airplane doesn't look that complicated, just a little
idiosyncratic. I was hoping to tap into all the experience and expertise
on this forum to at least get it ferriable or round up enough advice and
information to work with the local guys to do it here.
Are there any maintenance manuals or condition inspection guides that I
may purchase or download? I do have a set of the blue parts books that
came with the airplanes.
ANY advice is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve Jones
N76187
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Newby Questions
Steve,
Absolutely no disrespect meant but your line of questions leads me to
guess that your CJ is out of conditional (annual). If this is the fact
I would highly recommend that you hire a competent CJ mechanic and look
over his shoulder while he does the required inspection. He will have
the knowledge and the proper tools to do the job. I honestly believe
that doing this will save you money and heart ache (not to mention
wallet ache) in the long run.
Doug Sapp
On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones <727gs@db3broadband.com>
wrote:
In my effort to get the family CJ flying, I have a couple more
questions.
-What is the torque for the spark plugs? I pulled, cleaned and tested
them. Anyone know what the gap is supposed to be?
-How much oil is supposed to be in it? I drained the tank, nosecase,
strainer, and oil cooler.
-Someone mentioned flapper valves between the fuel tanks and the header
tank. The only valve like that I could find in my manuals was a check
valve in the fuselage forward of the wing leading edge. Is that
something I should remove and clean?
-What is the issue about fuel useage between the wing tanks? I've heard
that mentioned a couple times.
Thanks in advance,
Steve near Chicago
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| Subject: | Re: More Newby Questions |
I'd suggest getting the maintenance manuals from the RPA if you don't
already have them ...
http://flyredstar.org/catalog.php?cat=6&pid=40
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Steve Jones <727gs@db3broadband.com> wrote:
> Doug,
>
>
> I take no offense and you are correct. Like I said earlier, the airplane
> has been sitting a few years and is out of condition inspection. I've been
> asking around and there doesn't appear to be any CJ/Yak experts in the
> Chicago area. Lynn Hadler at Lake-in-the-Hills who used to take care of it
> retired last year and apparently moved to Tennesee. Dave Monroe and the
> Aerostar guys are training another guy on their airplanes to do their
> maintenance but he hasn't been around any CJ's. This side of offering you
> an airline ticket out to Chicago to look over my airplane, I have to
> investigate other options.
>
>
> That being said, the CJ is is one of several airplanes we have built,
> restored and operate, ranging from gliders to aerobatic aircraft to other
> warbirds. I realize that that none of them is a CJ and I agree with your
> suggestion top have an experienced CJ guy to help out but I haven't had
> much luck there. I do have some former CJ owners helping out and the
> airplane doesn't look that complicated, just a little idiosyncratic. I was
> hoping to tap into all the experience and expertise on this forum to at
> least get it ferriable or round up enough advice and information to work
> with the local guys to do it here.
>
>
> Are there any maintenance manuals or condition inspection guides that I
> may purchase or download? I do have a set of the blue parts books that came
> with the airplanes.
>
>
> ANY advice is appreciated.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steve Jones
>
> N76187
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *doug sapp
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:42 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: More Newby Questions
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Absolutely no disrespect meant but your line of questions leads me to
> guess that your CJ is out of conditional (annual). If this is the fact I
> would highly recommend that you hire a competent CJ mechanic and look over
> his shoulder while he does the required inspection. He will have the
> knowledge and the proper tools to do the job. I honestly believe that
> doing this will save you money and heart ache (not to mention wallet ache)
> in the long run.
>
>
> Doug Sapp
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones <727gs@db3broadband.com>
> wrote:
>
> In my effort to get the family CJ flying, I have a couple more questions.
>
>
> -What is the torque for the spark plugs? I pulled, cleaned and tested
> them. Anyone know what the gap is supposed to be?
>
> -How much oil is supposed to be in it? I drained the tank, nosecase,
> strainer, and oil cooler.
>
> -Someone mentioned flapper valves between the fuel tanks and the header
> tank. The only valve like that I could find in my manuals was a check valve
> in the fuselage forward of the wing leading edge. Is that something I
> should remove and clean?
>
> -What is the issue about fuel useage between the wing tanks? I've heard
> that mentioned a couple times.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Steve near Chicago
>
>
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>
> *Doug*
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> can't do both.
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>
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| Subject: | nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing |
Gents,
I have what I would describe as "fine" vibration when the nose wheel touches down
or during acceleration for takeoff.
My thought is the usual suspects.
1. out of balance nose tire/wheel.
2. bad nose wheel bearing/or loose
3. shimmy damper.
Anyone have anything else I might need to look at? Going to start from the bottom
and work up.
Thanks,
Keith
--------
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700HS
X26 Sebastian, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444521#444521
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| Subject: | Re: More Newby Questions |
I happened to catch some of the comments on the fuel vent but not all. It's a really
great place for insects to go live. Many people drill a hole(s) through
the tip of the vent and slip a piece of thin safety wire thru to make it a little
harder for certain insects to get in there.
Sorry if that's been mentioned already...
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
X26 Sebastian, FL
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444522#444522
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| Subject: | More Newby Questions |
Check the guys a finefield [sp?} aviation at lake in the hills. They
worked on my Yak-52 a few years back (15+) and were great guys. They
probably don=99t know the CJ, but could work on things with help
from remote experts. They do have round engine experience.
Bear
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: More Newby Questions
Doug,
I take no offense and you are correct. Like I said earlier, the airplane
has been sitting a few years and is out of condition inspection. I've
been asking around and there doesn't appear to be any CJ/Yak experts in
the Chicago area. Lynn Hadler at Lake-in-the-Hills who used to take care
of it retired last year and apparently moved to Tennesee. Dave Monroe
and the Aerostar guys are training another guy on their airplanes to do
their maintenance but he hasn't been around any CJ's. This side of
offering you an airline ticket out to Chicago to look over my airplane,
I have to investigate other options.
That being said, the CJ is is one of several airplanes we have built,
restored and operate, ranging from gliders to aerobatic aircraft to
other warbirds. I realize that that none of them is a CJ and I agree
with your suggestion top have an experienced CJ guy to help out but I
haven't had much luck there. I do have some former CJ owners helping out
and the airplane doesn't look that complicated, just a little
idiosyncratic. I was hoping to tap into all the experience and expertise
on this forum to at least get it ferriable or round up enough advice and
information to work with the local guys to do it here.
Are there any maintenance manuals or condition inspection guides that I
may purchase or download? I do have a set of the blue parts books that
came with the airplanes.
ANY advice is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve Jones
N76187
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: More Newby Questions
Steve,
Absolutely no disrespect meant but your line of questions leads me to
guess that your CJ is out of conditional (annual). If this is the fact
I would highly recommend that you hire a competent CJ mechanic and look
over his shoulder while he does the required inspection. He will have
the knowledge and the proper tools to do the job. I honestly believe
that doing this will save you money and heart ache (not to mention
wallet ache) in the long run.
Doug Sapp
On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Steve Jones <727gs@db3broadband.com
<mailto:727gs@db3broadband.com> > wrote:
In my effort to get the family CJ flying, I have a couple more
questions.
-What is the torque for the spark plugs? I pulled, cleaned and tested
them. Anyone know what the gap is supposed to be?
-How much oil is supposed to be in it? I drained the tank, nosecase,
strainer, and oil cooler.
-Someone mentioned flapper valves between the fuel tanks and the header
tank. The only valve like that I could find in my manuals was a check
valve in the fuselage forward of the wing leading edge. Is that
something I should remove and clean?
-What is the issue about fuel useage between the wing tanks? I've heard
that mentioned a couple times.
Thanks in advance,
Steve near Chicago
et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
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Doug
You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
can't do both.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: More Newby Questions |
Actually there is supposed to be a small screen cap over the vent tube. It
is normally held in place by safety wire or a cotter pin.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:42 AM, keithmckinley <cetopfed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I happened to catch some of the comments on the fuel vent but not all.
> It's a really great place for insects to go live. Many people drill a
> hole(s) through the tip of the vent and slip a piece of thin safety wire
> thru to make it a little harder for certain insects to get in there.
>
> Sorry if that's been mentioned already...
>
> --------
> Keith McKinley
> 700HS
> X26 Sebastian, FL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444522#444522
>
>
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can't do both.
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing |
I had the same a few years ago... replaced nose wheel bearings.=C2- That
fixed it, but about 2 years later had to replaced the dampener.=C2- JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "keithmckinley" <cetopfed@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:28:14 PM
Subject: Yak-List: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing
Gents,
I have what I would describe as "fine" vibration when the nose wheel touche
s down or during acceleration for takeoff.
My thought is the usual suspects.
1. out of balance nose tire/wheel.
2. bad nose wheel bearing/or loose
3. shimmy damper.
Anyone have anything else I might need to look at? Going to start from the
bottom and work up.
Thanks,
Keith
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
X26 Sebastian, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444521#444521
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing |
Chinese tire & wheel? If so, replace with a Cleveland wheel and an American
tire. Doug Sapp has the appropriate spacers for the axle.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:28 AM, keithmckinley <cetopfed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gents,
>
> I have what I would describe as "fine" vibration when the nose wheel
> touches down or during acceleration for takeoff.
>
> My thought is the usual suspects.
>
> 1. out of balance nose tire/wheel.
> 2. bad nose wheel bearing/or loose
> 3. shimmy damper.
>
> Anyone have anything else I might need to look at? Going to start from the
> bottom and work up.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
> --------
> Keith McKinley
> 700HS
> X26 Sebastian, FL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444521#444521
>
>
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... Blitz
Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel (gear) vibration on t/o and landing |
Chinese wheel us tire...
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Keith McKinley
700HS
X26 Sebastian, FL
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