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1. 11:24 AM - Re: Pre-OSH WI Formation Clinic (AUW) (John Casper)
2. 06:15 PM - CJ Aerobatics (Greg Wrobel)
3. 06:26 PM - Re: CJ Aerobatics (doug sapp)
4. 08:21 PM - Re: CJ Aerobatics (Gary Gabbard)
5. 10:06 PM - Re: CJ Aerobatics (Byron Fox)
6. 11:08 PM - Re: CJ Aerobatics (Robin Hou)
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| Subject: | Re: Pre-OSH WI Formation Clinic (AUW) |
Rico. What are the hotels in the area for next weekend. I really don't want t
o stay in a dump. John Casper
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> On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> To all whom have indicated interest - and anyone who may now be interested
- could you please email me confirmation of your arrival and attendance? As
of now, the schedule is as follows: (Exact times subject to change)
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> FRIDAY, July 17th 12:00 PM: Formation Ground School w/ John Casper
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> SATURDAY, July 18th 8 AM: Formation Flying - BBQ / cookout to follow
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> SUNDAY, July 19th 11 AM: Mass Redstar departure for AirVenture 2015.
>
> MONDAY, July 20th: Wausau (AUW) has been advanced as a candidate staging a
irport for the all-Warbird mass AirVenture arrival. If this flies, you may w
ish to return to Wausau from OSH (30 minutes) to stage and participate.
>
> As of last check, we had 7 aircraft loosely confirmed. Please contact me A
SAP w/ any questions and so that we can better plan the event.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S. 11th Ave.
> Wausau, WI. 54401
> 715.529.7426
> //
> 1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
> N8558G //
> Hangar #35 / AUW
> //
> 1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
> N21YK //
> Hangar #21 / AUW
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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to
be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or
Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
Thanks, Greg
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Aerobatics |
Greg,
I think Blitz at the Red Star store can help you with a
manual.............Blitz???
Doug
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to
> be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or
> Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
>
> Thanks, Greg
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*Doug*
You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
can't do both.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Aerobatics |
The speeds are listed in the Chinese flight manual. Somewhere.
Gary. N22YK
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> On Jul 8, 2015, at 18:23, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Greg,
> I think Blitz at the Red Star store can help you with a manual............
.Blitz???
>
> Doug
>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got t
o be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Informat
ion on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
>>
>> Thanks, Greg
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>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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> Doug
> You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You c
an't do both.
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Aerobatics |
The aerobatic manual for CJs is available and downloadable in the RPA's
online store. Go to www.flyredstar.org and click on the store.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to
> be kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or
> Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
>
> Thanks, Greg
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... Blitz
Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Aerobatics |
This is from an old post by Barry:
> The question I have is could someone give me normal entry speeds for
> loops , rolls etc, only interested in pretty mild maneuvers just
> positive G entry level stuff.
Walt,
Here's what I use:
Rolls - anything over 100 knots, but around 125 KIAS (around normal
cruise) is the nicest balance of roll rate and stick force required.
Loops & Cubans - 160 KIAS will give you a nice round loop with 4 G
pulls at the bottom. If you're not worried about roundness, 3 G's
will do 'er with margin over the top.
Immelman - 160-165 KIAS
Split S - less than 100 KIAS
Wing overs - can easily be accomplished from 140 KIAS....keep that
ball centered! ;)
If you're positive G the whole time, no need to worry about oil
level....and if you go negative, it won't matter how much you have in
there, you're gonna have a mess without a closed system. ;)
Standard disclaimer: None of the above is an endorsement for
performing aerobatics in a CJ. Obtain quality instruction and learn
to fly any maneuvers competently with a qualified pilot before
venturing out on your own. Know and rehearse stall/spin recovery
techniques prior to any aerobatic flight. Give your self sufficient
altitude to recover and or bailout of an unrecoverable situation.
Wear a parachute and have parameters for it's use determined before
getting in the cockpit. Kiss your wife and feed your dog...and most
importantly have that cheeseburger you've been putting off before you
go flying. ;)-
Have fun!
Barry
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On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Greg Wrobel < clouddog22@gmail.com
[clouddog22@gmail.com] > wrote:
I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to
be
kidding". All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information
on the
limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?
Thanks, Greg
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