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1. 04:47 PM - Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (altman51)
2. 04:56 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:22 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (kingcj6@aol.com)
4. 05:27 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (Byron Fox)
5. 08:47 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (Roger Kemp)
6. 08:48 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (Roger Kemp)
7. 09:09 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (Justin Drafts)
8. 10:36 PM - Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir (Richard Goode)
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| Subject: | Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil
pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured.
6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the
problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was
not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.
Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap
from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its
way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time
and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove
the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people
when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir. It would
probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm
sure you'll find several examples.
Hope no damage was done.
Ernie
On Friday, August 14, 2015, altman51 <waltman51@comcast.net> wrote:
> <javascript:;>>
>
> I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that
> the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the
> aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason
> mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting
> out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was
> returning but not getting out.
> Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil
> cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and
> made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there
> for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet.
> We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would
> guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside
> of the reservoir. It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an
> inspection.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
A plastic magnet usually helps.
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From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir
This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm sure you'll
find several examples.
Hope no damage was done.
Ernie
On Friday, August 14, 2015, altman51 < waltman51@comcast.net> wrote:
I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil
pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured.
6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the
problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was
not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.
Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap
from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its
way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time
and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove
the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people
when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir. It would
probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
I so distrust myself that I remove the cap from a quart of oil and drop it o
n the ground before even nearing the airplane. Murphy and I are well acquain
ted.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm su
re you'll find several examples.
>
> Hope no damage was done.
>
> Ernie
>
>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, altman51 <waltman51@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that
the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the airc
raft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) exp
lored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure b
ut the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not g
etting out.
>> Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oi
l cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and m
ade its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for
along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We ha
d to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess
that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the r
eservoir. It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspectio
n.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
Another idea. Take the cap off of you oil bottle and leave the cap on the wing
root while you are pouring the oil in the tank.
Doc
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> On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:44 PM, altman51 <waltman51@comcast.net> wrote:
>
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> I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the
oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured.
6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the
problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil
was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.
> Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap
from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its
way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time
and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove
the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people
when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir. It
would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
Yep. Know the gentleman quite well.
Doc
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> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I so distrust myself that I remove the cap from a quart of oil and drop it
on the ground before even nearing the airplane. Murphy and I are well acqu
ainted.
>
> Blitz Fox
> 415-307-2405
>
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm s
ure you'll find several examples.
>>
>> Hope no damage was done.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>>> On Friday, August 14, 2015, altman51 <waltman51@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed tha
t the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the air
craft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) ex
plored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure b
ut the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not g
etting out.
>>> Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic o
il cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and m
ade its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for
along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We ha
d to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess
that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the r
eservoir. It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspectio
n.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
Great idea on reservoir inspection, I'll add that to my annual insp list,
thanks-
Justin Drafts
N280NC
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, altman51 <waltman51@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that
> the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the
> aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason
> mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting
> out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was
> returning but not getting out.
> Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil
> cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and
> made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there
> for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet.
> We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would
> guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside
> of the reservoir. It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an
> inspection.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
>
>
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| Subject: | Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir |
We had a customer with oil pressure problems in a Yak 18T, and after some
investigation found no less than 17 oil caps or their retaining rings in the
oil tank!
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
Im currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is
+94 779 132 160.
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of altman51
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:15 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir
I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that
the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the
aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly)
explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out
pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning
but not getting out.
Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil
cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and
made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there
for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We
had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would
guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of
the reservoir. It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an
inspection.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445943#445943
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