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1. 06:49 AM - Re: Nanchang Air System (Michael Li-Paz)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: Nanchang Air System (Richard Hess)
3. 07:16 AM - Doug Sapp (Byron M Fox)
4. 07:17 AM - Re: Nanchang Air System (Byron M Fox)
5. 05:59 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Sam Sax)
6. 06:30 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Ernest Martinez)
7. 06:59 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Walter Lannon)
8. 07:15 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Jon Blake)
9. 07:22 PM - test (KingCJ6@aol.com)
10. 07:32 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Sam Sax)
11. 07:48 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (doug sapp)
12. 07:55 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Bill Geipel)
13. 07:56 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Ernest Martinez)
14. 08:00 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Sam Sax)
15. 08:13 PM - Re: Doug Sapp (Sam Sax)
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang Air System |
> Our prayers are with the Sapp family in this time of fire storms that thre
atens their area.
> Michael "Pipes" Li-Paz.
> The Tiger squadron.
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang Air System |
Same here. Doug let us know how you're doing.
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
> On Aug 23, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Michael Li-Paz <mmlipaz@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Our prayers are with the Sapp family in this time of fire storms that thr
eatens their area.
>> Michael "Pipes" Li-Paz.
>> The Tiger squadron.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Well said, Pipes. Lysandra has been posting reports and photos on Facebook. K
eep the Sapps in your thoughts.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Aug 23, 2015, at 6:44 AM, Michael Li-Paz <mmlipaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Our prayers are with the Sapp family in this time of fire storms that thr
eatens their area.
>> Michael "Pipes" Li-Paz.
>> The Tiger squadron.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang Air System |
Many thanks to all of you for your comments. I'll report back.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> All CJ=99s have a check valves in the charging circuits. Technicall
y they are =9Ccheck valve =93 non-return=9D as compared to
=9Ccheck valve =93 restricted flow=9D. The Schrader valv
e is simply a local modification to enable charging with western facilities.
The Schrader valve core is totally unnecessary.
> Walt
>
> From: jblake207@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:13 AM
> To: Yak-List
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Air System
>
> My CJ doesn't have a check valve at the fill point. I asked Doug and some
one else (maybe Blitz or Selby??) and they said some CJs have the check valv
e there and some don't and no rationale why or why not. I purchased a new c
heck valve and will install it just inside the Schrader valve. JB
>
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:50:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Air System
>
> As a suggestion, you should really remove the valve core from the external
air fill port John. The check valves in the system are there for a reason.
They are suppose to prevent the air from dumping overboard. The Schrader v
alve on the external air fill port is nothing more than an adapter for the h
ose used to fill the bottles. Just because the Schrader valve comes with a v
alve core when it was purchased, does not mean it has to remain in the Schra
der valve.
>
> I know,...... you're going to say the valve core is a backup. But it also
can be a trouble shooting hindrance if one of the check valves protecting t
he main or emergency air system is leaking. With the valve core out, if the
check valve leaks, you'll be able to see bubbles at the external air fill p
ort with just a finger of saliva on the opening or spraying soapy water on t
he opening.
>
> Dennis
>
> From: "jblake207@comcast.net" <jblake207@comcast.net>
> To: Yak-List <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nanchang Air System
>
> I recently experienced a leak in my air system and chased it for weeks... n
ever found it using soapy water method. Using a friend's Freon leak detecto
r, I shot a small amount of Freon into the system (had to do some re-enginee
ring on hoses fittings to make it work with the Freon bottle and airplane Sc
hrader valve) and then filled the system to about 10 atmospheres with compr
essed air... opened the main air valve to allow the Freon access to the enti
re system. Using the Freon sniffer, I found a couple of leaks... taking Dou
g Sapp's advice, used non-hardening aviation grade thread sealant (sort of l
ike Loctite) on the threads, rebuilt a couple of the check valves, replaced t
he valve core in the Schrader valve (main fill point) with a high pressure v
alve core... now she holds air.
>
> Freon and freon sniffer were the keys to finding those small irritating le
aks.
>
> JB
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 20, 2015, at 18:05, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 14 years ago, I'd turn the main air off and come back a week later to
> > discover there was still 30+ atmospheres (or CMUs - Chinese Mystery
> > Units - or whatever) still in the plumbing south of the main shutoff
> > valve.
> >
> > To maintain this happy state of affairs over time, I've overhauled the
> > gear actuators, replaced front and back seat gear and flap valves, and
> > routinely service check and shuttle valves.
> >
> > That brings us to today. Shut off the main air. Go to lunch. Come back
> > in 45 minutes. Air in the plumbing - zero. WTF!
> >
> > So:
> >
> > 1. Balloon tested gear actuators. No seeping.
> >
> > 2. All firewall check valves
> > overhauled within past month.
> >
> > 3. Pop off valve overhauled.
> >
> > 4. New snot valve.
> >
> > 5. Put a/c on jacks, put front gear and flap handles in neutral
> > position bleeding off down pressure on gear actuators and up pressure
> > on flap. Plumbing still bleeding off rapidly.
> >
> > Granted, this is no big deal. The compressor brings the stored air up
> > quickly. It's me just being anal.
> > But before I go through all the check valves again, does anybody have
> > a bright idea?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Blitz Fox
> > 415-307-2405
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
since this disaster started?
I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
possible harm/damage as possible!
God speed Doug!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
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I sent him an email yesterday to ask if he was alright, he has not
responded.
On Sunday, August 23, 2015, Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
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> Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
> since this disaster started?
>
>
> I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as possible
> harm/damage as possible!
>
>
> God speed Doug!
>
>
> Sam Sax
>
> Miami, FL
>
> *
>
>
> *
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I spoke to Kathleen on the phone about 2 hours ago. They are both OK
but very concerned with the fire situation as we all are in this area.
Hopefully they will not be required to evacuate.
Walt
From: Sam Sax
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Doug Sapp
Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
since this disaster started?
I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
possible harm/damage as possible!
God speed Doug!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
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This is GOOD NEWS!
Thanks for the update Walt!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
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Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp
I spoke to Kathleen on the phone about 2 hours ago. They are both OK
but very concerned with the fire situation as we all are in this area.
Hopefully they will not be required to evacuate.
Walt
From: Sam Sax <mailto:cd001633@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Doug Sapp
Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
since this disaster started?
I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
possible harm/damage as possible!
God speed Doug!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
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To all the wonderful folks who have worried about Kathleen and myself, here
is a short update on our situation:
The worst seems to be over for our immediate area, but the fire storm is
still very active and moving rapidly both north west and sour east of our
location. We managed, thanks to the combined efforts of all the family to
protect the home place without any loss. We are indeed fortunate as many
of our good friends were not so lucky. The actual fire got within about 2
miles of our home, flying embers pushed by 30+ mph winds were starting spot
fires 3-4 miles down wind of the actual fire line, they were our biggest
worry. Here is a link to the fire map.
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815&z=12&t=h%2CWind_in_6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.propertylinemaps.com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_fire.txt
No tally on the losses yet but the fire now is nearing 400 square miles,
homes lost number in the hundreds at last count, livestock numbers will be
staggering as most were out on summer range, which was totally over run by
fire, truly a disaster of epic proportions and it looks to not be over yet.
I apologize, for not responding earlier but things were pretty frantic here
for the past few days, and when they weren't frantic, after being on 24
hour fire watch sleep was the major goal. Bless you all for your thoughts
and prayers.
More later,
Best from Here,
Doug and Kathleen
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>
> Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
> since this disaster started?
>
>
> I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as possible
> harm/damage as possible!
>
>
> God speed Doug!
>
>
> Sam Sax
>
> Miami, FL
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
*Doug*
You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
can't do both.
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But are the airplane parts safe? (lol)
On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:45, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
> To all the wonderful folks who have worried about Kathleen and myself,
here is a short update on our situation:
>
> The worst seems to be over for our immediate area, but the fire storm
is still very active and moving rapidly both north west and sour east of
our location. We managed, thanks to the combined efforts of all the
family to protect the home place without any loss. We are indeed
fortunate as many of our good friends were not so lucky. The actual
fire got within about 2 miles of our home, flying embers pushed by 30+
mph winds were starting spot fires 3-4 miles down wind of the actual
fire line, they were our biggest worry. Here is a link to the fire map.
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815&z=
12&t=h%2CWind_in_6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.propertylinemaps.com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_fire.tx
t
>
> No tally on the losses yet but the fire now is nearing 400 square
miles, homes lost number in the hundreds at last count, livestock
numbers will be staggering as most were out on summer range, which was
totally over run by fire, truly a disaster of epic proportions and it
looks to not be over yet.
>
> I apologize, for not responding earlier but things were pretty frantic
here for the past few days, and when they weren't frantic, after being
on 24 hour fire watch sleep was the major goal. Bless you all for your
thoughts and prayers.
>
> More later,
>
> Best from Here,
> Doug and Kathleen
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
since this disaster started?
>
>
>
> I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
possible harm/damage as possible!
>
>
>
>
>
> God speed Doug!
>
>
>
>
>
> Sam Sax
>
> Miami, FL
>
>
>
> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Doug
> You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot.
You can't do both.
>
>
>
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Hang in there Doug!
On Sunday, August 23, 2015, doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> wrote:
> To all the wonderful folks who have worried about Kathleen and myself,
> here is a short update on our situation:
>
> The worst seems to be over for our immediate area, but the fire storm is
> still very active and moving rapidly both north west and sour east of our
> location. We managed, thanks to the combined efforts of all the family to
> protect the home place without any loss. We are indeed fortunate as many
> of our good friends were not so lucky. The actual fire got within about 2
> miles of our home, flying embers pushed by 30+ mph winds were starting spot
> fires 3-4 miles down wind of the actual fire line, they were our biggest
> worry. Here is a link to the fire map.
> http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815&z=12&t=h%2CWind_in_6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.propertylinemaps.com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_fire.txt
>
> No tally on the losses yet but the fire now is nearing 400 square miles,
> homes lost number in the hundreds at last count, livestock numbers will be
> staggering as most were out on summer range, which was totally over run by
> fire, truly a disaster of epic proportions and it looks to not be over yet.
>
> I apologize, for not responding earlier but things were pretty frantic
> here for the past few days, and when they weren't frantic, after being on
> 24 hour fire watch sleep was the major goal. Bless you all for your
> thoughts and prayers.
>
> More later,
>
> Best from Here,
> Doug and Kathleen
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cd001633@mindspring.com');>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
>> since this disaster started?
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
>> possible harm/damage as possible!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> God speed Doug!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Sax
>>
>> Miami, FL
>>
>> *
>>
>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> *Doug*
> You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
> can't do both.
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Just got this from Dave King:
=9CDave King spoke to Doug this morning. His home is "surrounded
360 by fires, but they have held it off. He and his family are taking
shifts on "ember patrol" with hoses and have all of their irrigation and
sprinklers running 24/7. He wanted to thank all who have posted or left
messages, but in Doug's typical understated fashion said he is "just too
busy to reply now".
Another bit of important (and good) news! J
Sam Sax
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Blake
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp
We exchanged emails last week... Asked if they were OK. He said they
were fine just smoky. Sent him another email Friday... No response since
then. JB
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
I sent him an email yesterday to ask if he was alright, he has not
responded.
On Sunday, August 23, 2015, Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com> wrote:
Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
since this disaster started?
I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
possible harm/damage as possible!
God speed Doug!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
~,
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g=D3=93
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Doug,
It=99s hard to imagine not only the physical work involved in
saving/protecting your home but even more so, the emotional
distress
Thanks so much for the update!!
Hang in there! Best to you and Kathleen!!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp
To all the wonderful folks who have worried about Kathleen and myself,
here is a short update on our situation:
The worst seems to be over for our immediate area, but the fire storm is
still very active and moving rapidly both north west and sour east of
our location. We managed, thanks to the combined efforts of all the
family to protect the home place without any loss. We are indeed
fortunate as many of our good friends were not so lucky. The actual
fire got within about 2 miles of our home, flying embers pushed by 30+
mph winds were starting spot fires 3-4 miles down wind of the actual
fire line, they were our biggest worry. Here is a link to the fire map.
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815
<http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815&z
=12&t=h%2CWind_in_6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%2F
%2Fwww.propertylinemaps.com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_fi
re.txt>
&z=12&t=h%2CWind_in_6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%
2F%2Fwww.propertylinemaps.com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_
fire.txt
No tally on the losses yet but the fire now is nearing 400 square miles,
homes lost number in the hundreds at last count, livestock numbers will
be staggering as most were out on summer range, which was totally over
run by fire, truly a disaster of epic proportions and it looks to not be
over yet.
I apologize, for not responding earlier but things were pretty frantic
here for the past few days, and when they weren't frantic, after being
on 24 hour fire watch sleep was the major goal. Bless you all for your
thoughts and prayers.
More later,
Best from Here,
Doug and Kathleen
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug
since this disaster started?
I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as
possible harm/damage as possible!
God speed Doug!
Sam Sax
Miami, FL
et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
--
Doug
You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You
can't do both.
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