---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/24/15: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:55 AM - Re: Doug Sapp (A. Dennis Savarese) 2. 05:10 AM - Doug & Kathleen Sapp (Keith Harbour) 3. 05:19 AM - Re: Doug Sapp (Dave Jester) 4. 06:47 AM - Landing Gear actuators (Gordon Price) 5. 07:26 AM - Re: Landing Gear actuators (Jan Mevis) 6. 09:51 AM - Re: Doug & Kathleen Sapp (Richard Hess) 7. 11:02 AM - Re: Landing Gear actuators (Justin Drafts) 8. 05:26 PM - CJ and Yak Decals and Markings (glipaz) 9. 09:30 PM - Nanchang Nose Number (glipaz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:05 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp Our thoughts and prayers are with you and Kathleen.All the best,Dennis From: doug sapp To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp To all the wonderful folks who have worried about Kathleen and myself, here is a short update on our situation: The worst seems to be over for our immediate area, but the fire storm is st ill very active and moving rapidly both north west and sour east of our loc ation.=C2- We managed, thanks to the combined efforts of all the family t o protect the home place without any loss.=C2- We are indeed fortunate as many of our good friends were not so lucky.=C2- The actual fire got with in about 2 miles of our home, flying embers pushed by 30+ mph winds were st arting spot fires 3-4 miles down wind of the actual fire line, they were ou r biggest worry. Here is a link to the fire map. =C2- http://www.mappings upport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815&z=12&t=h%2CWind_in_ 6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.propertylinemaps. com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_fire.txt No tally on the losses yet but the fire now is nearing 400 square miles, ho mes lost number in the hundreds at last count, livestock numbers will be st aggering as most were out on summer range, which was totally over run by fi re, truly a disaster of epic proportions and it looks to not be over yet. I apologize, for not responding earlier but things were pretty frantic here for the past few days, and when they weren't frantic, after being on 24 ho ur fire watch sleep was the major goal.=C2- Bless you all for your though ts and prayers. More later, Best from Here,Doug and Kathleen On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Sam Sax wrote: =C2-=C2-Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear fro m Doug since this disaster started?=C2-I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as possible harm/damage as possible!=C2-=C2 -God speed Doug!=C2-=C2-Sam SaxMiami, FL et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- DougYou have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. Yo u can't do both. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:19 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Doug & Kathleen Sapp From: Keith Harbour ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:21 AM PST US From: Dave Jester Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp I agree=85you folks keep your herds down. On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > Our thoughts and prayers are with you and Kathleen. > All the best, > Dennis > > From: doug sapp > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:45 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug Sapp > > To all the wonderful folks who have worried about Kathleen and myself, here is a short update on our situation: > > The worst seems to be over for our immediate area, but the fire storm is still very active and moving rapidly both north west and sour east of our location. We managed, thanks to the combined efforts of all the family to protect the home place without any loss. We are indeed fortunate as many of our good friends were not so lucky. The actual fire got within about 2 miles of our home, flying embers pushed by 30+ mph winds were starting spot fires 3-4 miles down wind of the actual fire line, they were our biggest worry. Here is a link to the fire map. http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=47.842658%2C-120.031815&z= 12&t=h%2CWind_in_6_hrs%2CMODIS_thermal%2CCurrent_fire&q=http%3A%2F%2Fw ww.propertylinemaps.com%2Fp%2Fpublic_land_map%2FUSA%2FUSA_wildland_fire.tx t > > No tally on the losses yet but the fire now is nearing 400 square miles, homes lost number in the hundreds at last count, livestock numbers will be staggering as most were out on summer range, which was totally over run by fire, truly a disaster of epic proportions and it looks to not be over yet. > > I apologize, for not responding earlier but things were pretty frantic here for the past few days, and when they weren't frantic, after being on 24 hour fire watch sleep was the major goal. Bless you all for your thoughts and prayers. > > More later, > > Best from Here, > Doug and Kathleen > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Sam Sax wrote: > > > Did anyone actually speak or otherwise able to contact/hear from Doug since this disaster started? > > I hope and pray that he and family survive this with as little as possible harm/damage as possible! > > > God speed Doug! > > > Sam Sax > Miami, FL > > > et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > -- > > Doug > You have to make up your mind about growing up and becoming a pilot. You can't do both. > > > ronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:11 AM PST US From: Gordon Price Subject: Yak-List: Landing Gear actuators A little over a month a go I posted an note on the experience I had with no green light on gear down selection. It all worked out ok with no damage. We took the landing gear actuator cylinders out and sent them to M14P inc for overhaul. When they applied 200 psi shop air to the left actuator to retract the piston and blew the end off the cap when the piston contacted the end cap. You can see from the picture that the end face of the cap is quite corroded where the actuator cylinder end was probably resting on the cap while on the ground and moisture collected. There are also dents in the cap where the piston was contacting it. I had a slight air leak in the gear system and I think this was it. You can see discolouration where there was a slight crack for some time. I would turn the air off after a flight and then when I turned it back on before a flight the gear actuators would load up and reduce the air pressure. This does not happen now. We installed the overhauled actuators and did some gear swings. Then we discovered that there were no restrictors in the normal air lines. No where in the manuals are restrictors shown. We ordered the restrictors and drilled them out to .8mm. I asked Jill at M14P if the other 3 end caps were checked for cracks and the answer was yes they were visually inspected and there was no problem. However I couldn=99t be so sure and worry every time I put the gear down, so we removed the actuators again and I had the end caps x-rayed for cracks. The tests turned out fine and there are no cracks. We installed the gear with the restrictors in the lines. It now takes 3 seconds to retract and 5 to extend instead of 1 and 2 seconds. We were very careful to measure the amount of piston protruding from the actuator in the gear down position to make sure that end of the piston does not contact the end cap. We had to adjust the fork end 1 thread. The restrictors will also help that problem. I will be removing the actuators for overhaul again sooner rather later. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Landing Gear actuators From: Jan Mevis Thanks for sharing! Jan From: on behalf of Gordon Price Subject: Yak-List: Landing Gear actuators A little over a month a go I posted an note on the experience I had with no green light on gear down selection. It all worked out ok with no damage. We took the landing gear actuator cylinders out and sent them to M14P inc for overhaul. When they applied 200 psi shop air to the left actuator to retract the piston and blew the end off the cap when the piston contacted the end cap. You can see from the picture that the end face of the cap is quite corroded where the actuator cylinder end was probably resting on the cap while on the ground and moisture collected. There are also dents in the cap where the piston was contacting it. I had a slight air leak in the gear system and I think this was it. You ca n see discolouration where there was a slight crack for some time. I would turn the air off after a flight and then when I turned it back on before a flight the gear actuators would load up and reduce the air pressure. This does not happen now. We installed the overhauled actuators and did some gear swings. Then we discovered that there were no restrictors in the normal air lines. No wher e in the manuals are restrictors shown. We ordered the restrictors and drilled them out to .8mm. I asked Jill at M14P if the other 3 end caps were checked for cracks and th e answer was yes they were visually inspected and there was no problem. However I couldn=B9t be so sure and worry every time I put the gear down, so we removed the actuators again and I had the end caps x-rayed for cracks. The tests turned out fine and there are no cracks. We installed the gear with the restrictors in the lines. It now takes 3 seconds to retract and 5 to extend instead of 1 and 2 seconds. We were very careful to measure the amount of piston protruding from the actuator in the gear down position to make sure that end of the piston does not contact the end cap. We had to adjust the fork end 1 thread. The restrictors will also help that problem. I will be removing the actuators for overhaul again sooner rather later. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:36 AM PST US From: Richard Hess Subject: Re: Yak-List: Doug & Kathleen Sapp Asteroid movie line. Richard Hess C 404-964-4885 > On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:06 PM, Keith Harbour wrote: > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Landing Gear actuators From: Justin Drafts Good info, thanks- Justin N280NC On Aug 24, 2015 5:58 AM, "Gordon Price" wrote: > A little over a month a go I posted an note on the experience I had with > no green light on gear down selection. It all worked out ok with no damag e. > > We took the landing gear actuator cylinders out and sent them to M14P inc > for overhaul. When they applied 200 psi shop air to the left actuator to > retract the piston and blew the end off the cap when the piston contacted > the end cap. You can see from the picture that the end face of the cap i s > quite corroded where the actuator cylinder end was probably resting on th e > cap while on the ground and moisture collected. There are also dents in > the cap where the piston was contacting it. > > I had a slight air leak in the gear system and I think this was it. You > can see discolouration where there was a slight crack for some time. I > would turn the air off after a flight and then when I turned it back on > before a flight the gear actuators would load up and reduce the air > pressure. This does not happen now. > > We installed the overhauled actuators and did some gear swings. Then we > discovered that there were no restrictors in the normal air lines. No > where in the manuals are restrictors shown. > > We ordered the restrictors and drilled them out to .8mm. > > I asked Jill at M14P if the other 3 end caps were checked for cracks and > the answer was yes they were visually inspected and there was no problem. > However I couldn=99t be so sure and worry every time I put the gear down, so > we removed the actuators again and I had the end caps x-rayed for cracks .. > The tests turned out fine and there are no cracks. > > We installed the gear with the restrictors in the lines. It now takes 3 > seconds to retract and 5 to extend instead of 1 and 2 seconds. > > We were very careful to measure the amount of piston protruding from the > actuator in the gear down position to make sure that end of the piston do es > not contact the end cap. We had to adjust the fork end 1 thread. The > restrictors will also help that problem. > > I will be removing the actuators for overhaul again sooner rather later. > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:41 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: CJ and Yak Decals and Markings From: "glipaz" If someone has good quality artwork for CJ and Yak exterior markings, please send offline via email or via Dropbox so we can build a library and make these available to all via the RPA website. Thanks, Gil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446366#446366 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:25 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Nanchang Nose Number From: "glipaz" Does anyone know the significance of nose numbers? Is there any or are they randomly picked by the owner? 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