---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/03/15: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:28 AM - Yak Test fitting (Scott Jernigan) 2. 09:02 AM - Re: Yak Test fitting (Marcus Bates) 3. 09:13 AM - Re: Yak Test fitting (Bill Geipel) 4. 10:04 AM - Re: Yak Test fitting (Byron Fox) 5. 11:37 AM - Re: Yak Test fitting (Roger Kemp) 6. 11:57 AM - CJ Versus Yak 52 (Dennis Von Ruden) 7. 12:34 PM - Re: CJ Versus Yak 52 (Byron Fox) 8. 12:42 PM - Re: CJ Versus Yak 52 (Colin McGeachy) 9. 12:49 PM - Re: CJ Versus Yak 52 (Phil Salter) 10. 03:15 PM - Re: CJ Versus Yak 52 (Justin Drafts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:05 AM PST US From: "Scott Jernigan" Subject: Yak-List: Yak Test fitting Greetings all. I am currently in the market for a Yak-52 or CJ-6a, and afte r talking to the very helpful Jerry at Wild Blue Aviation, I decided to fol low his suggestion and ask on the list if there is anyone in the mid-south who has either aircraft that I might try sitting in? I am currently based a t KASG (Springdale, Ar) and can fly pretty much anywhere in a 300 mile radi us in a morning. I currently have ~1500 hrs in a Grumman Cheetah, and about 30 hours in various other aircraft. Jerry's thought was that I might find the Yak cockpit a bit tight (I wear a 52R jacket). So I thought I would try finding one of each to try on. Sitting in a Mooney back when I bought the Cheetah was good for immediately knowing that a Mooney wasn't the aircraft for me (and 3 visits to the Chiropractor). If the Yak cockpit is too tight , that stops a whole branch of work off the bat. Thanks, Scott Jernigan N26789 scott@scottjernigan.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Test fitting From: Marcus Bates You will probably like the CJ-6 better.........Marco Polo Sent from my iPad > On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Scott Jernigan wrot e: > > Greetings all. I am currently in the market for a Yak-52 or CJ-6a, and aft er talking to the very helpful Jerry at Wild Blue Aviation, I decided to fol low his suggestion and ask on the list if there is anyone in the mid-south w ho has either aircraft that I might try sitting in? I am currently based at K ASG (Springdale, Ar) and can fly pretty much anywhere in a 300 mile radius i n a morning. I currently have ~1500 hrs in a Grumman Cheetah, and about 30 h ours in various other aircraft. Jerry's thought was that I might find the Ya k cockpit a bit tight (I wear a 52R jacket). So I thought I would try findin g one of each to try on. Sitting in a Mooney back when I bought the Cheetah w as good for immediately knowing that a Mooney wasn't the aircraft for me (an d 3 visits to the Chiropractor). If the Yak cockpit is too tight, that stop s a whole branch of work off the bat. > > > Thanks, > > > Scott Jernigan > > N26789 > scott@scottjernigan.com > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:14 AM PST US From: Bill Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Test fitting Yak in Memphis, Tennessee. .? Sent from my iPad > On Sep 4, 2015, at 00:58, Marcus Bates wrote: > > You will probably like the CJ-6 better.........Marco Polo > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Scott Jernigan wro te: >> >> Greetings all. I am currently in the market for a Yak-52 or CJ-6a, and af ter talking to the very helpful Jerry at Wild Blue Aviation, I decided to fo llow his suggestion and ask on the list if there is anyone in the mid-south w ho has either aircraft that I might try sitting in? I am currently based at K ASG (Springdale, Ar) and can fly pretty much anywhere in a 300 mile radius i n a morning. I currently have ~1500 hrs in a Grumman Cheetah, and about 30 h ours in various other aircraft. Jerry's thought was that I might find the Ya k cockpit a bit tight (I wear a 52R jacket). So I thought I would try findin g one of each to try on. Sitting in a Mooney back when I bought the Cheetah w as good for immediately knowing that a Mooney wasn't the aircraft for me (an d 3 visits to the Chiropractor). If the Yak cockpit is too tight, that stop s a whole branch of work off the bat. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Scott Jernigan >> >> N26789 >> scott@scottjernigan.com > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:35 AM PST US From: Byron Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Test fitting Aaah...Scott. Get ready for a flood of highly biased opinions. With at least a nod to objectivity, suggest you purchase the Nanchang CJ-6A Buyer's Guide found on the RPA's web site store. Go to flyredstar.org click on the store a nd then find Manuals. Blitz Fox RPA Online Store 415-307-2405 > On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Scott Jernigan wrote : > > Greetings all. I am currently in the market for a Yak-52 or CJ-6a, and aft er talking to the very helpful Jerry at Wild Blue Aviation, I decided to fol low his suggestion and ask on the list if there is anyone in the mid-south w ho has either aircraft that I might try sitting in? I am currently based at K ASG (Springdale, Ar) and can fly pretty much anywhere in a 300 mile radius i n a morning. I currently have ~1500 hrs in a Grumman Cheetah, and about 30 h ours in various other aircraft. Jerry's thought was that I might find the Ya k cockpit a bit tight (I wear a 52R jacket). So I thought I would try findin g one of each to try on. Sitting in a Mooney back when I bought the Cheetah w as good for immediately knowing that a Mooney wasn't the aircraft for me (an d 3 visits to the Chiropractor). If the Yak cockpit is too tight, that stop s a whole branch of work off the bat. > > > Thanks, > > > Scott Jernigan > > N26789 > scott@scottjernigan.com > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Test fitting From: Roger Kemp Yak 52 in MGM (08A) Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Scott Jernigan wrot e: > > Greetings all. I am currently in the market for a Yak-52 or CJ-6a, and aft er talking to the very helpful Jerry at Wild Blue Aviation, I decided to fol low his suggestion and ask on the list if there is anyone in the mid-south w ho has either aircraft that I might try sitting in? I am currently based at K ASG (Springdale, Ar) and can fly pretty much anywhere in a 300 mile radius i n a morning. I currently have ~1500 hrs in a Grumman Cheetah, and about 30 h ours in various other aircraft. Jerry's thought was that I might find the Ya k cockpit a bit tight (I wear a 52R jacket). So I thought I would try findin g one of each to try on. Sitting in a Mooney back when I bought the Cheetah w as good for immediately knowing that a Mooney wasn't the aircraft for me (an d 3 visits to the Chiropractor). If the Yak cockpit is too tight, that stop s a whole branch of work off the bat. > > > Thanks, > > > Scott Jernigan > > N26789 > scott@scottjernigan.com > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:02 AM PST US From: Dennis Von Ruden Subject: Yak-List: CJ Versus Yak 52 Scott: Saw your post on the Yak List pertaining to CJ versus Yak 52. I tried to re spond directly to you, but my email was rejected. I was in the same position a few years ago. I even included a Yak 18T on my shopping list. I am 6'4" and 275 lbs.... a lot of pilot to fit into a small cockpit that w as originally designed for a smaller and younger individual. Comfort really influenced my decision. I chose a CJ6 and have never questioned my decision. Why? The cockpit is si mply larger. If you exceed the 85 percentile man profile, you will still ne ed to add the Malcolm hood-type canopy (ies) for extra head clearance (espe cially with a helmet or headset) and the rudder pedal extensions for extra leg room. Both are well worth the investment and have made flying a lot eas ier and more comfortable. My only concern with the CJ is the landing gear lever. In the down position , I need to make sure my left leg does not bump up against it. Which, in tu rn, reduces the amount of side movement for the control stick. Not that cri tical unless you have a stiff left crosswind. In those instances, I just a llow for it. I have approximately 1000 hours in a 1974 Grumman AA-1B which I bought whil e I was still in college. The Grumman is a lot of fun to fly, but the CJ is a lot easier to fly. And, consistently make smooth landings. Hope this helps. Any other questions, please feel free to call or email. Thanks Dennis Von Ruden [cid:GECLSig.jpg] Dennis Von Ruden President p 800.533.0524 | 507.451.5510 620 Alexander Drive S.W. Owatonna, Minnesota 55060 www.generalequip.com ________________________________ [cid:facebook.png] [cid:youtube.p ng] [cid:linkedin.png] [cid:twitter.png] [cid:blogger.png] Manufacturers of Light Construction Equipment ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you received this email in error, and are not the recipient(s) or responsible for receiving this email for the recipient, please inform the sender immedi ately, delete the email and any attachment(s) associated. This email has be en scanned by Email Security System. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:42 PM PST US From: Byron Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Versus Yak 52 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:20 PM PST US From: Colin McGeachy Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Versus Yak 52 I have a great magazine article from the UK magazine Flyer, not that I'm biased, comparing the CJ and the Yak. It's from 96 so the costs per hour are a little out of date! It's too large to post on the Yak List (7mb) but if anyone wants a copy I'd be happy to email it. Colin C-FTGZ On 3 September 2015 at 14:53, Dennis Von Ruden wrote: > Scott: > > > Saw your post on the Yak List pertaining to CJ versus Yak 52. I tried to > respond directly to you, but my email was rejected. > > > I was in the same position a few years ago. I even included a Yak 18T on > my shopping list. > > > I am 6=994=9D and 275 lbs. a lot of pilot to fit int o a small cockpit that > was originally designed for a smaller and younger individual. Comfort > really influenced my decision. > > > I chose a CJ6 and have never questioned my decision. Why? The cockpit is > simply larger. If you exceed the 85 percentile man profile, you will stil l > need to add the Malcolm hood-type canopy (ies) for extra head clearance > (especially with a helmet or headset) and the rudder pedal extensions for > extra leg room. Both are well worth the investment and have made flying a > lot easier and more comfortable. > > > My only concern with the CJ is the landing gear lever. In the down > position, I need to make sure my left leg does not bump up against it. > Which, in turn, reduces the amount of side movement for the control stick .. > Not that critical unless you have a stiff left crosswind. In those > instances, I just allow for it. > > > I have approximately 1000 hours in a 1974 Grumman AA-1B which I bought > while I was still in college. The Grumman is a lot of fun to fly, but the > CJ is a lot easier to fly. And, consistently make smooth landings. > > > Hope this helps. Any other questions, please feel free to call or email. > > > Thanks > > > Dennis Von Ruden > > * * > > > *Dennis Von Ruden President p 800.533.0524 <800.533.0524> | 507.451.5510 > <507.451.5510>* > > * 620 Alexander Drive S.W. Owatonna, Minnesota 55060 www.generalequip.com > * > ------------------------------ > > > > > Ma nufacturers > of Light Construction Equipment > > ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If > you received this email in error, and are not the recipient(s) or > responsible for receiving this email for the recipient, please inform the > sender immediately, delete the email and any attachment(s) associated. Th is > email has been scanned by Email Security System. > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:09 PM PST US From: Phil Salter Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Versus Yak 52 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ Versus Yak 52 From: Justin Drafts Hey Colin, yes I'd love to read the article. .. draftsjust417@gmail.com Thanks much, Justin Drafts N280NC On Sep 3, 2015 11:44 AM, "Colin McGeachy" wrote: > I have a great magazine article from the UK magazine Flyer, not that I'm > biased, comparing the CJ and the Yak. It's from 96 so the costs per hour > are a little out of date! > > It's too large to post on the Yak List (7mb) but if anyone wants a copy > I'd be happy to email it. > > Colin > C-FTGZ > > On 3 September 2015 at 14:53, Dennis Von Ruden > wrote: > >> Scott: >> >> >> >> Saw your post on the Yak List pertaining to CJ versus Yak 52. I tried to >> respond directly to you, but my email was rejected. >> >> >> >> I was in the same position a few years ago. I even included a Yak 18T on >> my shopping list. >> >> >> >> I am 6=994=9D and 275 lbs. a lot of pilot to fit in to a small cockpit that >> was originally designed for a smaller and younger individual. Comfort >> really influenced my decision. >> >> >> >> I chose a CJ6 and have never questioned my decision. Why? The cockpit is >> simply larger. If you exceed the 85 percentile man profile, you will sti ll >> need to add the Malcolm hood-type canopy (ies) for extra head clearance >> (especially with a helmet or headset) and the rudder pedal extensions fo r >> extra leg room. Both are well worth the investment and have made flying a >> lot easier and more comfortable. >> >> >> >> My only concern with the CJ is the landing gear lever. In the down >> position, I need to make sure my left leg does not bump up against it. >> Which, in turn, reduces the amount of side movement for the control stic k. >> Not that critical unless you have a stiff left crosswind. In those >> instances, I just allow for it. >> >> >> >> I have approximately 1000 hours in a 1974 Grumman AA-1B which I bought >> while I was still in college. The Grumman is a lot of fun to fly, but th e >> CJ is a lot easier to fly. And, consistently make smooth landings. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. Any other questions, please feel free to call or email. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Dennis Von Ruden >> >> * * >> >> >> >> >> >> *Dennis Von Ruden President p 800.533.0524 <800.533.0524> | 507.451.5510 >> <507.451.5510>* >> >> * 620 Alexander Drive S.W. Owatonna, Minnesota 55060 www.generalequip.co m >> * >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> M anufacturers >> of Light Construction Equipment >> >> ALL INFORMATION IN THIS EMAIL, AND/OR ATTACHMENT(S) IS CONFIDENTIAL. If >> you received this email in error, and are not the recipient(s) or >> responsible for receiving this email for the recipient, please inform th e >> sender immediately, delete the email and any attachment(s) associated. 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