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1. 01:01 AM - Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (jay-dub)
2. 03:58 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (Cpayne)
3. 05:33 AM - Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (Harv)
4. 05:42 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (migfighter42)
5. 06:35 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (jblake207@comcast.net)
6. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Florida Fly-in (jblake207@comcast.net)
7. 07:09 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (Ernest Martinez)
8. 07:23 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (migfighter42)
9. 07:30 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (Ernest Martinez)
10. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: Florida Fly-in (Bill Yakrobatics)
11. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (George S. Coy)
12. 10:55 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (jblake207@comcast.net)
13. 10:58 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (Greg Wrobel)
14. 11:10 AM - Re: Florida Fly-in (Ernest Martinez)
15. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge (Justin Drafts)
16. 11:39 AM - Winter Fly In (jblake207@comcast.net)
17. 11:46 AM - Re: Winter Fly In (Ernest Martinez)
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| Subject: | Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge |
Hi Harv,
Don't run out and buy a gauge yet. It may be worth swapping them over initially
to troubleshoot. We have a similar problem in that the outlet oil temp on the
triplex goes bananas in the front cockpit - rock steady in the rear. We assumed
it was a gauge problem so swapped front and rear gauges. There was no effect
meaning it is either the front sender or the wiring. We'll sort it out over
the winter.
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CJ and Yak-52 owner
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Ernie,
I have seen only moderate interest in the Oktoberfest Clinic and i thought i have
set up something special with closed airspace at an airport where we fly every
spring in the Warbird show. Go figure.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge |
Thanks
I'm certain it's a wiring problem as the gauges behave normally when put into the
rear cockpit, probably a bad joint at one of the cannon plugs on the front
loom.
I'm not sure though how to debug? I've unscrewed the plug ends and eyeballed the
internal joints which look ok. My idea is to now test the cannon sockets one
by one, so socket connection pin marked as 1 goes to the other end of the wiring
loom which is also marked as 1 on that cannon plug?
I will have to dig through my wiring diagrams.
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates before
I commit.=C2- You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you pick
a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire.=C2- JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
Really!
No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015 in F
lorida???=C2-
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez < erniel29@gmail.com > wr
ote:
All,
Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF) in F
lorida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they would
be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate us.
OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants and
hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas and is
in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally it's war
m. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give us a great
fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The manager als
o offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite restaurant for
breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO there is an ele
ctronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could hangar and repair ou
r planes if required.=C2-
The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager aske
d if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been wantin
g to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would arrange
cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he would l
ike to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a regular basi
s. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for years.
I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming down a
nd what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is definitely on
the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on hand since the
y're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get at least 15 p
lanes, so let me know.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Craig, I'm planning to be there.=C2- BTW - every email I send you is boun
ced back.=C2- JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cpayne" <cpayne@joimail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:54:54 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Florida Fly-in
Ernie,
I have seen only moderate interest in the Oktoberfest Clinic and i thought
i have set up something special with closed airspace at an airport where we
fly every spring in the Warbird show. Go figure.
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Yep,
I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice dinner or
a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my knowledge
there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to AYS, with
better Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January or
some other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to drum
up interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on AYS.
Ernie
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates before
> I commit. You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you pick a
> couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire. JB
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>
> Really!
>
> No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015 in
> Florida???
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF) in
>> Florida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they
>> would be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate us.
>>
>> OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants
>> and hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas
>> and is in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally
>> it's warm. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give us
>> a great fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The
>> manager also offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite
>> restaurant for breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO
>> there is an electronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could
>> hangar and repair our planes if required.
>>
>> The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager
>> asked if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been
>> wanting to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would
>> arrange cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he
>> would like to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a
>> regular basis. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for
>> years.
>>
>> I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming down
>> and what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is definitely
>> on the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on hand since
>> they're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get at least
>> 15 planes, so let me know.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> *
>>
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>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
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>> *
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> *
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
:)
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I like movies, and a good steak dinner may get you to second base...
>
> Bill
> RSAS
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
> Date: 9/21/2015 9:06 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>
> Yep,
>
> I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice dinner
> or a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my
> knowledge there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to
> AYS, with better Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
>
> The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January or
> some other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to drum
> up interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on AYS.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates
>> before I commit. You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you
>> pick a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire. JB
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>
>> Really!
>>
>> No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015 in
>> Florida???
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF)
>>> in Florida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they
>>> would be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate us.
>>>
>>> OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants
>>> and hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas
>>> and is in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally
>>> it's warm. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give us
>>> a great fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The
>>> manager also offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite
>>> restaurant for breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO
>>> there is an electronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could
>>> hangar and repair our planes if required.
>>>
>>> The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager
>>> asked if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been
>>> wanting to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would
>>> arrange cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he
>>> would like to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a
>>> regular basis. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for
>>> years.
>>>
>>> I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming
>>> down and what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is
>>> definitely on the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on
>>> hand since they're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get
>>> at least 15 planes, so let me know.
>>>
>>> Ernie
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List>
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Sorry guys I've been out due to wrapping up Airshow season. Oceana, Stuart, etc
I'll make it when I can.
Sent from Bill's iPhone
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 06:54, Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ernie,
>
> I have seen only moderate interest in the Oktoberfest Clinic and i thought i
have set up something special with closed airspace at an airport where we fly
every spring in the Warbird show. Go figure.
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge |
I hope you guys reversed your senders to confirm it is not a sender problem.
Swap the two cannon plugs and see if the problem follows. We have seen bad
senders in the past.
George Coy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harv
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:30 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge
Thanks
I'm certain it's a wiring problem as the gauges behave normally when put
into the rear cockpit, probably a bad joint at one of the cannon plugs on
the front loom.
I'm not sure though how to debug? I've unscrewed the plug ends and
eyeballed the internal joints which look ok. My idea is to now test the
cannon sockets one by one, so socket connection pin marked as 1 goes to the
other end of the wiring loom which is also marked as 1 on that cannon plug?
I will have to dig through my wiring diagrams.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447290#447290
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Wasn't the new RPA SE Regional Director, Cecil Boyd=C2-trying to put some
thing together?=C2- Any more word from him?=C2- JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:06:01 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
Yep,
I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice dinner or
a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my knowledge
there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to AYS, with be
tter Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January or so
me other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to drum up
interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on AYS.
Ernie
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, < jblake207@comcast.net > wrote:
Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates before
I commit.=C2- You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you pick
a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire.=C2- JB
From: "Ernest Martinez" < erniel29@gmail.com >
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
Really!
No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015 in F
lorida???=C2-
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez < erniel29@gmail.com > wr
ote:
<blockquote>
All,
Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF) in F
lorida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they would
be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate us.
OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants and
hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas and is
in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally it's war
m. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give us a great
fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The manager als
o offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite restaurant for
breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO there is an ele
ctronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could hangar and repair ou
r planes if required.=C2-
The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager aske
d if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been wantin
g to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would arrange
cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he would l
ike to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a regular basi
s. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for years.
I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming down a
nd what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is definitely on
the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on hand since the
y're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get at least 15 p
lanes, so let me know.
Ernie
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Ernie, I responded like JB and I am interested in attending. There are
several of us headed down to Lakeland in November supporting the Wounded
Warriors Program. I concur with JB. Pick some dates and let everyone
look at their personal schedules. Too late in November and your dealing
with the Holiday season that runs till the first of January. There is still
a lot of flying going on October and November in the Southeast and North
Central because of the great weather this time of year. In
January-February, not so much, so a Southern trip is always nice .My
recommendation would be Mid to late January but its your deal so you pick a
few dates and see who can make it.
Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
On Sep 21, 2015 9:35 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
> :)
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I like movies, and a good steak dinner may get you to second base...
>>
>> Bill
>> RSAS
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> Date: 9/21/2015 9:06 AM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>
>> Yep,
>>
>> I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice dinner
>> or a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my
>> knowledge there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to
>> AYS, with better Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
>>
>> The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January or
>> some other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to drum
>> up interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on AYS.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates
>>> before I commit. You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you
>>> pick a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire. JB
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *"Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> *Sent: *Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>>
>>> Really!
>>>
>>> No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015
>>> in Florida???
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF)
>>>> in Florida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they
>>>> would be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate us.
>>>>
>>>> OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants
>>>> and hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas
>>>> and is in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally
>>>> it's warm. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give us
>>>> a great fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The
>>>> manager also offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite
>>>> restaurant for breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO
>>>> there is an electronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could
>>>> hangar and repair our planes if required.
>>>>
>>>> The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager
>>>> asked if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been
>>>> wanting to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would
>>>> arrange cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he
>>>> would like to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a
>>>> regular basis. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming
>>>> down and what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is
>>>> definitely on the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on
>>>> hand since they're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get
>>>> at least 15 planes, so let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Ernie
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List>
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
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>>>
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>> *
>>
>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Fly-in |
Greg,
The Yak List seems to drop a lot of messages, I didn't see yours. Reply to
me directly for this. October is a bust for me. I'll be at Craigs thing on
Oct 1st. the rest of the month I'm slammed. Nov, I'll also be at When Pigs
Fly South. Looks like January would be the month.
I'll throw out the weekend of the weekend of Jan the 15th or the 22nd or
the 29th. 2016
Reply off line to me. With a subject line of "Winter Fly-in"
Thanks
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ernie, I responded like JB and I am interested in attending. There are
> several of us headed down to Lakeland in November supporting the Wounded
> Warriors Program. I concur with JB. Pick some dates and let everyone
> look at their personal schedules. Too late in November and your dealing
> with the Holiday season that runs till the first of January. There is still
> a lot of flying going on October and November in the Southeast and North
> Central because of the great weather this time of year. In
> January-February, not so much, so a Southern trip is always nice .My
> recommendation would be Mid to late January but its your deal so you pick a
> few dates and see who can make it.
>
> Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
> On Sep 21, 2015 9:35 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> :)
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like movies, and a good steak dinner may get you to second base...
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> RSAS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 9/21/2015 9:06 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>>
>>> Yep,
>>>
>>> I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice dinner
>>> or a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my
>>> knowledge there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to
>>> AYS, with better Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
>>>
>>> The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January or
>>> some other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to drum
>>> up interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on AYS.
>>>
>>> Ernie
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates
>>>> before I commit. You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you
>>>> pick a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire. JB
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>>>
>>>> Really!
>>>>
>>>> No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015
>>>> in Florida???
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF)
>>>>> in Florida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they
>>>>> would be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate
us.
>>>>>
>>>>> OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants
>>>>> and hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas
>>>>> and is in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally
>>>>> it's warm. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give
us
>>>>> a great fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The
>>>>> manager also offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite
>>>>> restaurant for breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO
>>>>> there is an electronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could
>>>>> hangar and repair our planes if required.
>>>>>
>>>>> The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager
>>>>> asked if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been
>>>>> wanting to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would
>>>>> arrange cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he
>>>>> would like to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a
>>>>> regular basis. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming
>>>>> down and what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is
>>>>> definitely on the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on
>>>>> hand since they're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get
>>>>> at least 15 planes, so let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ernie
>>>>>
>>>>> *
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>>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: HS6/Chang Triplex Gauge |
Hey Harv!
I recently spent several months finally refurbing a host of my CJ's
electrical systems, neglected for decades.
Sounds like you've taken all the correct steps thus far, that is, swapping
gauges front to back, checking cannon plugs, etc. Always start with the
easiest and work to the harder!
Taking advantage of copiers at work, I enlarged the Chinese wiring diagrams
(avail in the PLAAF manuals from Doug Sapp, chapter 7 "Aux Equip").
Initially *very* daunting, even for an aero engineer like me, but if you
enlarge them to at least 11"x17", pour some strong coffee, make notes and
trace wires with a hiliter, they actually make a lot of sense and the
mystery gradually disappears. I came to better understand and respect the
clever simplicity of the Chinese designs.
The Reds unwisely used 20-gauge white wire for nearly everything, which
makes physical wire chasing difficult on the aircraft, but each wire
*should* be ID'd with a 3-figure code on a clear sleeve at each end, ie -
"3Y2", "7X12", etc. See photo of a typical sleeve on my bird, it states
"14Y1".
The first 2 characters identify the system (landing gear lights, oil
pressure gauge, etc) and the last digits are the actual individual wire.
These wire codes are directly noted on the wiring diagrams and there's a
very handy *Table 7.1* in the manuals that explains each system's specific
nomenclature (the 3Y, 7X, 25W, etc. See photo).
This will help you find the specific wire bundles and routing for these
gauge gremlins.
Note that the wire diagrams are guides; they may have been produced years
before your CJ was built, and won't necessarily reflect slight changes or
repairs done decades ago by the military to your specific aircraft.
At this point, I'd suggest chasing each wire between the sender and its
gauge... there may well be a chafed site that's short circuiting 1 wire,
which will shut that system down.
Using a multimeter on the resistance/Ohm setting, you can measure the
resistance of each wire in the bundle from one end to the other; that is,
between sockets in the cannon plugs on each end. The cannon plugs' socket
numbers are listed on the wiring diagrams (in a small triangle, if I recall
correctly) with their corresponding wire's 3-character code. Insert a multi
meter lead into the socket on one end, and the corresponding socket on the
other end. There should be a small resistance reading, pretty much the same
for each wire in the bundle. If anything shows an infinite resistance, then
there's your defective and/or shorted wire.
( Most likely its rubbed up against structure over the years, has worn thru
the wire's insulation, and is shorting at that site. I've found this
several times in my CJ. Its a very simple fix to cut out the chafe site
and install in a butt-splice. Very small chafes that have very minor wire
damage might be able to be tape-wrap repaired. Of course, you'll want to
find a way to protect the wire from further chafing here. )
So, in your case, this is how I'd go about it as a next troubleshooting
step. Hope this helps-
Justin Drafts
N280NC
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks
>
> I'm certain it's a wiring problem as the gauges behave normally when put
> into the rear cockpit, probably a bad joint at one of the cannon plugs on
> the front loom.
>
>
> I'm not sure though how to debug? I've unscrewed the plug ends and
> eyeballed the internal joints which look ok. My idea is to now test the
> cannon sockets one by one, so socket connection pin marked as 1 goes to the
> other end of the wiring loom which is also marked as 1 on that cannon plug?
>
> I will have to dig through my wiring diagrams.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447290#447290
>
>
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Why not something around the Holiday in January or President's Day in Febru
ary?=C2-=C2- JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:07:47 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
Greg,
The Yak List seems to drop a lot of messages, I didn't see yours. Reply to
me directly for this. October is a bust for me. I'll be at Craigs thing on
Oct 1st. the rest of the month I'm slammed. Nov, I'll also be at When Pigs
Fly South. Looks like January would be the month.
I'll throw out the weekend of the weekend of Jan the 15th or the 22nd or th
e 29th. 2016
Reply off line to me. With a subject line of "Winter Fly-in"
Thanks
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Greg Wrobel < clouddog22@gmail.com > wrote
:
Ernie, I responded like JB and I am interested in attending. There are seve
ral of us headed down to Lakeland in November supporting the Wounded Warrio
rs Program.=C2- I concur with=C2- JB.=C2- Pick=C2- some dates and l
et everyone look at their personal schedules. Too late in November and your
dealing with the Holiday season that runs till the first of January. There
is still a lot of flying going on October and November in the Southeast an
d North Central because of the great weather this time of year. In January-
February, not so much, so a Southern trip is always nice .My recommendation
would be Mid to late January but its your deal so you pick a few dates and
see who can make it.
Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
On Sep 21, 2015 9:35 AM, "Ernest Martinez" < erniel29@gmail.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
:)
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, migfighter42 < migfighter42@gmail.com > w
rote:
<blockquote>
I like movies, and a good steak dinner may get you to second base...
Bill
RSAS
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------
From: Ernest Martinez < erniel29@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
Yep,
I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice dinner or
a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my knowledge
there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to AYS, with be
tter Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January or so
me other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to drum up
interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on AYS.
Ernie
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, < jblake207@comcast.net > wrote:
<blockquote>
Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates before
I commit.=C2- You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you pick
a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire.=C2- JB
From: "Ernest Martinez" < erniel29@gmail.com >
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
Really!
No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015 in F
lorida???=C2-
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez < erniel29@gmail.com > wr
ote:
<blockquote>
All,
Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala (OCF) in F
lorida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive they would
be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to accommodate us.
OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many restaurants and
hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for practice areas and is
in central Florida which is convenient to many of us, and finally it's war
m. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he would give us a great
fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than AYS. The manager als
o offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an onsite restaurant for
breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to the FBO there is an ele
ctronics shop and a large maintenance shop which could hangar and repair ou
r planes if required.=C2-
The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the manager aske
d if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've been wantin
g to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he would arrange
cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated that he would l
ike to create a long term relationship with us to do this on a regular basi
s. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F for years.
I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming down a
nd what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is definitely on
the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on hand since the
y're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to get at least 15 p
lanes, so let me know.
Ernie
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ronics.com _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Winter Fly In |
Well thats doable as well. I just arbitrarily picked those weeks.
Ernie
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:35 PM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
> Why not something around the Holiday in January or President's Day in
> February? JB
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, September 21, 2015 1:07:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>
> Greg,
>
> The Yak List seems to drop a lot of messages, I didn't see yours. Reply to
> me directly for this. October is a bust for me. I'll be at Craigs thing on
> Oct 1st. the rest of the month I'm slammed. Nov, I'll also be at When Pigs
> Fly South. Looks like January would be the month.
>
> I'll throw out the weekend of the weekend of Jan the 15th or the 22nd or
> the 29th. 2016
>
> Reply off line to me. With a subject line of "Winter Fly-in"
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ernie, I responded like JB and I am interested in attending. There are
>> several of us headed down to Lakeland in November supporting the Wounded
>> Warriors Program. I concur with JB. Pick some dates and let everyone
>> look at their personal schedules. Too late in November and your dealing
>> with the Holiday season that runs till the first of January. There is still
>> a lot of flying going on October and November in the Southeast and North
>> Central because of the great weather this time of year. In
>> January-February, not so much, so a Southern trip is always nice .My
>> recommendation would be Mid to late January but its your deal so you pick a
>> few dates and see who can make it.
>>
>> Greg "Clouddog" Wrobel
>> On Sep 21, 2015 9:35 AM, "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, migfighter42 <migfighter42@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like movies, and a good steak dinner may get you to second base...
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>> RSAS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 9/21/2015 9:06 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>>> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>>>
>>>> Yep,
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 respondents so far, Jon, and Bill. This makes for a nice
>>>> dinner or a night at the movies, not necessarily a fly-in. Currently to my
>>>> knowledge there is no AYS planned, and this could be the alternative to
>>>> AYS, with better Hotels, Food, Fuel and Weather.
>>>>
>>>> The dates would be sometime in November or December, possibly January
>>>> or some other time, nothing is written in stone yet, I'm just trying to
>>>> drum up interest. I know there are at least 20 of you who were planning on
>>>> AYS.
>>>>
>>>> Ernie
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM, <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ernie, I replied that I am interested, but would need to know dates
>>>>> before I commit. You asked me for preferred dates, but would rather you
>>>>> pick a couple of dates (prime and alternate) then we can adjust fire. JB
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>>>> *To: *"Yak-List" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:32:04 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Florida Fly-in
>>>>>
>>>>> Really!
>>>>>
>>>>> No one is the SE is interested in getting together Fall/Winter of 2015
>>>>> in Florida???
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheltair Aviation (FBO @ S&F) has taken over operations at Ocala
>>>>>> (OCF) in Florida and is my home airport. I asked the manager how receptive
>>>>>> they would be to hosting a fly-in at OCF and he was very eager to
>>>>>> accommodate us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OCF has a very large ramp, 2 runways, is located near many
>>>>>> restaurants and hotels, has lots of uninhabited areas to the west for
>>>>>> practice areas and is in central Florida which is convenient to many of
us,
>>>>>> and finally it's warm. I mentioned Oct, Nov, or Dec timeframe. He said he
>>>>>> would give us a great fuel discount, and currently OCF is $.12 cheaper than
>>>>>> AYS. The manager also offered us the conference rooms, and the FBO has an
>>>>>> onsite restaurant for breakfast and lunch. It's a very nice FBO, next to
>>>>>> the FBO there is an electronics shop and a large maintenance shop which
>>>>>> could hangar and repair our planes if required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The field is towered but there is very little traffic, and the
>>>>>> manager asked if we would be willing to do fly by's and such, since they've
>>>>>> been wanting to have some sort of event there for the public. He said he
>>>>>> would arrange cooperation with the tower for special "Events". He stated
>>>>>> that he would like to create a long term relationship with us to do this
on
>>>>>> a regular basis. The manager knows us well, he's been fueling us at S&F
for
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to get a show of hands of who would be interested in coming
>>>>>> down and what month/week would be best for you. Formation flying is
>>>>>> definitely on the agenda and more than likely we'll have IP's and CP's on
>>>>>> hand since they're all local, but this is mostly for FUN!!! I'd like to
get
>>>>>> at least 15 planes, so let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ernie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
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>>>>>>
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