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2. 01:09 PM - Re: Oil Tank / Engine Heater (Royden Heays)
3. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: CJ Versus Yak 52 (Roger Kemp)
4. 01:16 PM - Re: Oil Tank / Engine Heater (Roger Kemp)
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| Subject: | Oil Tank / Engine Heater |
It is worth noting that the original Russian instructions say that if the M
14 P is not going to be used for only a week, then it should have short-term
conservation, to prevent internal corrosion on an engine that has been used
and so has combustion by-products in the engine. If you are leaving the
engine for an entire winter, it should have full conservation. Of course
they were incredibly conservative, but I pass this on for what it is worth!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rico Jaeger
Sent: 09 October 2015 20:29
Subject: Yak-List: Oil Tank / Engine Heater
Hi, Redstars!
Well, our 3 weeks of Summer flew by (pun intended!) quickly in WI and I am
now faced with the dismal prospect of a multi-month "no fly zone" due to
ridiculously impending cold weather and harsh climate. Can anyone offer
advice on engine / oil pre-heat for a Yak 52? I've done some propane
ducted-heat experimentation and have seen limited / marginal success. I
would really like a dependable method so I can maintain my "chops" over the
Winter months. If anyone has any solid advice / experience and / or if
anyone has a system for sale, or feels confident in directing me to someone
offering one, please talk to me. I think we can keep this topic "on-list" as
it may be of interest to other pilots...?
Thank you in advance - and 'hoping this finds you all healthy, happy and
thriving!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW
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| Subject: | Oil Tank / Engine Heater |
I fly my Yak 55/M14P throughout the winter here in Vancouver BC, except on
very cold days when ambient is below freezing.
The O&M manual indicates preheat in necessary below 5 deg C
My hangar is unheated.
I have installed a EZ heat butterfly pad on the bottom of the oil tank, and
a single EZ Heat pad on one end of the oil cooler and another on the sump
located at the front of the engine bottom center (where the metal filings
sensor and drain valve is located).
I leave the tank heater on for a minimum of an hour and the oil cooler and
sump heaters on for 30 min before engine start. I get quite a lot of oil
draining down to the sump over a week. Hence the sump heater.
In addition I use a propane space heater to heat the cylinders. I remove the
lower half cowling and leave the upper half cowling on and cover it with a
blanket.
With stove piping, the space heater output is directed straight up from the
hangar floor under the engine watching to make sure things don't get too hot
inside the cowling. The engine gets cozy warm after 30 min. I check
cylinder and engine component temps using one of those hand held temp
reading guns.
On start up the oil pressure is within limits. After warming the engine at
46% RPM for about 5 minutes, the oil pressure suddenly drops to the lower
limit and stays there for a while, then gradually increases back to normal
as the oil temp rises to the green arc. I suppose the drop is the oil being
routed to the oil cooler where the cold oil has a high viscosity until
flushed through.
I use Phillips 66 X/C 25W-60 Radial engine oil
Regards
Royden
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rico Jaeger
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil Tank / Engine Heater
Thanks, Jeff! Most helpful!
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Jeff Hove
<flying@jeffhove.com>
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil Tank / Engine Heater
Rico,
The owner of EZ-Heat <http://e-zheat.com/store/> is also a Yak-52 owner and
has electric heat pads that perfectly fit the Yak's oil tank, sump, and oil
cooler (don't forget about the cold oil there at the end of six foot long
oil lines!). The kits are complete and easy to install (just be sure to
thoroughly sand and clean the areas the pads adhere to).
He is also a neighbor of yours based in Chetek, WI. Go tour the
factory right on the airport.
This warms everything gently without introducing a lot of water vapor or
exhaust fumes like combustion pre-heaters and is safe to leave
unattended. Add a cell-phone controlled GSM relay system
<http://relaysupply.com/gsm-relays/gsm-auto-high-amperage-remote-control-dev
ice-2-x-relays-ac-100-240v-powered.html/>,
and you can start the pre-heat the night before fly so it is already warm
when you get to the hangar.
Jeff Hove
Lake Elmo, MN
Cessna 150F N8353G
RV-7A N347RV
Yak-52 NX52BS
On 10/9/2015 2:28 PM, Rico Jaeger wrote:
>
> Hi, Redstars!
>
>
> Well, our 3 weeks of Summer flew by (pun intended!) quickly in WI and
> I am now faced with the dismal prospect of a multi-month "no fly zone"
> due to ridiculously impending cold weather and harsh climate. Can
> anyone offer advice on engine / oil pre-heat for a Yak 52? I've done
> some propane ducted-heat experimentation and have seen limited /
> marginal success. I would really like a dependable method so I can
> maintain my "chops" over the Winter months. If anyone has any solid
> advice / experience and / or if anyone has a system for sale, or feels
> confident in directing me to someone offering one, please talk to me.
> I think we can keep this topic "on-list" as it may be of interest to
> other pilots...?
>
>
> Thank you in advance - and 'hoping this finds you all healthy, happy
> and thriving!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S. 11th Ave.
> Wausau, WI. 54401
> 715.529.7426
> //
> 1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
> N8558G //
> Hangar #35 / AUW
> //
> 1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
> N21YK //
> Hangar #21 / AUW
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: CJ Versus Yak 52 |
Still will not out perform a M14 400 HP PF powered YAK -50. with 900 lbs less wt.
it is
the most fun you can have with your cloths on. Especially since retirement ended
my Viper play time.
Doc
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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:43 AM, g195 <g195@grandecom.net> wrote:
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> I guess none of you ever flew a 52TW. More power, 5hrs fuel, and looks cool.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Tank / Engine Heater |
Move south young man.
Doc
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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Redstars!
>
>
> Well, our 3 weeks of Summer flew by (pun intended!) quickly in WI and I am
now faced with the dismal prospect of a multi-month "no fly zone" due to ri
diculously impending cold weather and harsh climate. Can anyone offer advice
on engine / oil pre-heat for a Yak 52? I've done some propane ducted-heat e
xperimentation and have seen limited / marginal success. I would really like
a dependable method so I can maintain my "chops" over the Winter months. If
anyone has any solid advice / experience and / or if anyone has a system fo
r sale, or feels confident in directing me to someone offering one, please t
alk to me. I think we can keep this topic "on-list" as it may be of interest
to other pilots...?
>
>
> Thank you in advance - and 'hoping this finds you all healthy, happy and t
hriving!
>
>
> Rico Jaeger
> 915 S. 11th Ave.
> Wausau, WI. 54401
> 715.529.7426
> //
> 1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
> N8558G //
> Hangar #35 / AUW
> //
> 1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
> N21YK //
> Hangar #21 / AUW
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