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1. 03:35 AM - Re:Fraud Alert (Cpayne)
2. 08:18 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Jim Burke)
3. 09:17 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Garmin G3X installation (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
4. 09:37 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Todd McCutchan)
5. 10:06 AM - Re: Fraud Alert (doug sapp)
6. 10:08 AM - Re: Re:Fraud Alert (Robin Hou)
7. 10:13 AM - Albania auctions off 40 communist-era aircraft (colin mcgeachy)
8. 10:55 AM - Re: Albania auctions off 40 communist-era aircraft (Robert Schwartz)
9. 11:08 AM - Re: Albania auctions off 40 communist-era aircraft (Justin Drafts)
10. 11:57 AM - (Robert Schwartz)
11. 02:19 PM - Re: (doug sapp)
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Robin,
I think I saw something similar in my Spam filter. Sounds like a great deal! Now
if Spencer can forward the details the account he wants the money transferred
to, I'll forward Bit Coin security deposit from my Nigerian bank via my Cayman
Island account.....
Craig Payne
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| Subject: | Garmin G3X installation |
Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air
tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control
cable that require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.
Wing tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a
problem plus routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be
the first to put a G3X in a TW.
Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using
a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
Jimmy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my
Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it
first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it
if you do not like it.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52@gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52@gmail.com> > wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located
a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this
installation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets
Garmin=99s requirements for the magnetometer?
Jimmy Burke
<mailto:Jbyak52@gmail.com> Jbyak52@gmail.com
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| Subject: | Garmin G3X installation |
Jimmy, I have never worked with the G3X magnetometer, but my advice is to not be
too extremely hard core about the companies mounting requirements ... which
are of course looking for the perfect world. If that were the case, I would
advise mounting in the top of the vertical stab. How you'd get it in there would
be the issue of course, unless you actually cut in an inspection hole. Ugh!
The biggest concern is to avoid single and dual cycle errors, otherwise known as
"Hard and Soft Iron" errors, both conditions impact how the flux valve (No,
not Flux Capacitor) behaves. This device is no different than the magnetic compass
mounted in your cockpit. It behaves exactly the same way, without moving
parts of course. I do not know if the G3X incorporates accelerometers as well,
which adds to the complexity of installation. Anyway ....
The first thing to avoid at all costs are ferrous metals that MOVE. You mentioned
this and you are absolutely correct... things like control cables, bell-cranks,
landing gear, etc. Any kind of ferrous metal that moves.
But minus those, there is a certain amount of leeway simply because there is a
calibration routine for this device and it is possible that you can get away with
a lot more than the directions imply. One of the first places I would try
would be under the cover for the rear instrument panel. Yes, I know there is
some steel in there, but it does not move! If you want to get extreme, replace
all the screws and nuts you can with stainless steel hardware which will not
impact flux valves. Mount it to something other than that cover itself ...
because you more than likely might want to take that off someday and you don't
ever want to ever be moving this thing around. If you move it, it has to be
recalibrated... period. But for test purposes, you can stick it in there anyway
you like, as far up as possible... and see if it will calibrate. You have
nothing to lose. Wing-tips sound like a good place, but you must be away from
any moving iron and remember, there are pushrods going out that way with all
sorts of moving hardware, so it is not quite as attractive as you might think.
Anywhere near the engine is another place you want to stay away from of
course.
Yes, I suspect you are the "test case" for the 52TW.
Best of luck ... and multiple repeated attempts. :-)
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks which
require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable that require
3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the wiring through
the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put a G3X in a TW.
Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a Survey
Tool to locate a low noise area.
Jimmy
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the
50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial
adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52@gmail.com> wrote:
Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a place to install
the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a TW or have
a suggestion on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the magnetometer?
Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52@gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52@gmail.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin G3X installation |
Use a simple camping compass. Wherever you want to put it out the compass an
d see if it swings. If not you are golden.
Used this technique for my Yak 50 as suggested by Stein Air during G3X insta
ll.
Todd McCutchan
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell: (260) 402-1740
E-mail: todd@fastaircraft.com
www.fastaircraft.com
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks w
hich require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable that re
quire 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a
possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the w
iring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put a G3X in a TW.
>
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a S
urvey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>
> Jimmy
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first wit
h industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not l
ike it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation
in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s requ
irements for the magnetometer?
>
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52@gmail.com
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Walt,
Sorry, can't do that because the location is secret,Brian/Spencer tells
me. I tried this approach because I have a vendor near this guy. I can
tell where he is because I have his phone number.
You have to give him at least 10K deposit up front then trust him because
he and only he can complete the deal.
"Give me your 10K and wait here, I'll be back real soon, I promise".
---LATER--
"Oh I'm sorry, the big man at the warehouse took the money but now wants
20K more, I'm very sorry, but what can I do?" "He is taking a big risk
doing this deal".
What can you do?? *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* because you are guilty of dealing
on the black market and you will have big problems when the folks from
CATIC (the military office and the ONLY folks who can legally sell military
goods) get wind of what is going on.
Hey.....If it looks like a duck.......................sounds like a duck..
Doug
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> I have had 2 or 3 emails from this guy but sent straight to junk with no
> response to him. I agree he is most likely a thief. If I had any
> interest in his engines the first thing I would want to see is the specif
ic
> Certification documents (as listed in my response to Robin) from the log
> book.
> If that looked legit the next request would be for specific pages from
> different sections of the log. The engine log is about 5/8=9D thi
ck!
> If still OK the next request is for a good (and knowledgeable) friend in
> Hong Kong to check it out.
> Next, if looking good, a trip to China (on my Airline pass of course)
> after which I may part with a small down payment with a signed contract f
or
> delivery and payment, in that order.
>
> Walt
>
> *From:* doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:34 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Fraud Alert
>
> Robin and Walter
> This joker "Spencer", who signs off as Brian is a very naive middle man a
t
> best, at worst he is a thief. If he is working you like me, he has most
> likely sent you a copy of the log,
> in that log look carefully at the serial number (top left of the page).
> Then go back to the photo's he sent to "prove" he has the goods and look
at
> that serial number.
> Please don't tell me that you are surprised that they do not match!!
> First he wanted 30K, then it was 20K, "last" offer was 17K, when that was
> also refused he offers to accept my deposit for 10K with a guarantee to
> refund if the engine is not good.
>
> Good luck to anyone thinking this guy or the engine is for real.
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robin;
>>
>> I count only three different serial numbers all of which were of 1969
>> manufacture, not 2003 as he stated. Chances are not good that any are
>> =9Cfirst overhaul=9D.
>> If you want to continue with him tell him to send you photo copies of th
e
>> overhaul, test run and installed accessories certificates contained in
the
>> log book for each engine. With a translator these will answer your
>> questions. Of course the logs must come with the engine.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> *From:* Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2016 7:54 PM
>> *To:* Yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> *Subject:* Yak-List: Fraud Alert
>>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I received the following emails from Spencer who allegedly is selling a
>> Housai engine. I believe others also received his email.
>>
>> I told Spencer I have friend in China who can inspect the engine. He the
n
>> ask me for a deposit before inspection. He sent me the following picture
s
>> of the engine he is selling. These pictures clearly are from different
>> engines. I counted at least 4 different serial numbers.
>>
>> BTW, he titled his email "Re: looking for an Housai HS-6D 300hp for a
>> Nanchang CJ6 Aircraft."
>>
>> Robin Hou
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:31 PM, Spencer <pursehook@163.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Robin.
>> Please see the reply as below with red words.
>>
>> 1. Number of times your engine has been overhauled? one time
>> 2. What date was the engine last overhauled? 2012
>> 3. Has the engine been used since the last overhaul? NO
>> 4. What date was the engine manufactured? 2003
>> 5. Can you send me a photo? OK, Please see attached pictures
>> 6. The price is 15000USD/set, if you are interested, we can seel to
>> you.
>> 7. The goods in Hebei, Till now, many buyers hope to buy
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2016-01-13 23:21:08, "Robin Hou" <rmhou@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Where in China are you located?
>> What is the price?
>> Total time and time since major overhaul on this engine?
>> Do you have logbook?
>> Thank you,
>> Robin
>> Sent using CloudMagic Email
>> <https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pa&cv=8.0.91&pv=5.1&source
=email_footer_2>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Spencer <pursehook@163.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello,Sir
>>
>> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
>>
>> we can offer the a 9 cylinder radial engine : Housai HS-6D 300hp for a
>> Nanchang CJ6 Aircraft,
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> Mobile:86-15605896238
>> Wechat: spencer575315727
>> Skype: kevintech123
>> E-mail:pursehook@163.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Many other items coming in monthly, please give us a call if you don't
>> see what you need.
>>
>>
>> Doug Sapp, 18-B Riverview Road
>> Omak, Washington 98841
>> Phone 509-826-4610 Fax 509-826-3644
>> email rvfltd@televar.com
>> http://www.cj6.org/list.html
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=6
>>
>>
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>
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Yes, and I am sure Spencer will give you the most favorable Bit Coin to RMB
exchange rate ;-)
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 3:44 AM, Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com> wro
te:
Robin,
I think I saw something similar in my Spam filter. Sounds like a great deal
! Now if Spencer can forward the details the account he wants the money tra
nsferred to, I'll forward Bit Coin security deposit from my Nigerian bank v
ia my Cayman Island account.....
Craig Payne
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
S -
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=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Albania auctions off 40 communist-era aircraft |
Spares anyone?
See the report on the BBC News website: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35486258
A somewhat forlorn CJ in the pictures.
Colin
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452582#452582
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| Subject: | Re: Albania auctions off 40 communist-era aircraft |
The cj are in very bad condition with most interior parts removed . I've
inspected all of the aircraft in the sale. Bob
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On February 3, 2016 12:22:35 PM "colin mcgeachy" <colinmcgeachy@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Spares anyone?
>
> See the report on the BBC News website:
> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35486258
>
> A somewhat forlorn CJ in the pictures.
>
> Colin
>
> --------
> Colin (C-FTGZ)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452582#452582
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/albanian_cj_760.png
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| Subject: | Re: Albania auctions off 40 communist-era aircraft |
Ha I'm sure there are 1 or 2 spares-worthy relics to be had, but then just
to meander thru the boneyard and watch the process would be a thrill.
Hopefully there'll be some eye-witness reports afterwards.
Justin/ CJ6A N280NC
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:10 AM, colin mcgeachy <colinmcgeachy@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Spares anyone?
>
> See the report on the BBC News website:
> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35486258
>
> A somewhat forlorn CJ in the pictures.
>
> Colin
>
> --------
> Colin (C-FTGZ)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452582#452582
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/albanian_cj_760.png
>
>
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I've seen all of the aircraft in the auction and have someone there. The CJ
are really rough and starting bid price is about 9000 euro. =C2-Contact
me off line more interestBob=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
Robert,
Maybe we could all team up rather than bumping heads and end up paying more
than we should??
Doug
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Robert Schwartz <schwartzcompany@att.net>
wrote:
> I've seen all of the aircraft in the auction and have someone there. The
> CJ are really rough and starting bid price is about 9000 euro. Contact me
> off line more interest
> Bob
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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