---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/06/16: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese) 2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez) 3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese) 4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma y not generate an adequate spark. The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m ag cap and then to the spark plug. After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file. Dennis From: John B To: Yak-List Digest Server Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s tart. Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals from Russia hold up well? =C2- Thank you! john b On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke wrote: Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy =C2-From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc Sent from my iPad On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke wrote: I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin =99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation From: Ernest Martinez These engines are not easy to start in cold weather. Ernie On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil > may not generate an adequate spark. > > The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical > components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the > starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked. I f > the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you > press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to the m ag > cap and then to the spark plug. > > After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and > check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the points t o > remove any mounds with a point file. > > Dennis > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* John B > *To:* Yak-List Digest Server > *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation > > Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the > starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l ow > in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to > start. > > Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals fro m > Russia hold up well? > > Thank you! > john b > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke wrote: > > Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks > which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha t > require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips > are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus > routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to pu t > a G3X in a TW. > > Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a > Survey Tool to locate a low noise area. > > Jimmy > > *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation > > Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno n > in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first > with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d o > not like it. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke wrote: > > I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a place to > install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a > TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require ments for > the magnetometer? > > Jimmy Burke > Jbyak52@gmail.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especially if the battery voltage is low. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote: > These engines are not easy to start in cold weather. > > Ernie > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > > wrote: > > If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the > starting coil may not generate an adequate spark. > > The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical > components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the > starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and > cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield > (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the > spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug. > > After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil > container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can > burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file. > > Dennis > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* John B > > *To:* Yak-List Digest Server > > *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation > > Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the > starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are > old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane > was difficult to start. > > Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the > originals from Russia hold up well? > > Thank you! > john b > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke > wrote: > > Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the > two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft > fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus > the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility, > but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the > wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put > a G3X in a TW. > Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics > suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area. > Jimmy > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > ] *On Behalf Of > *Roger Kemp > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation > Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that > for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving > the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. > That way you can move it if you do not like it. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke > wrote: > > Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to > located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has > anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion > on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the > magnetometer? > Jimmy Burke > Jbyak52@gmail.com > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation From: George Coy We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders who want to use a 12 V system George Sent from my iPad > On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especially if the battery voltage is low. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-546-8182 (mobile) > www.yak-52.com > Skype - Yakguy1 > >> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote: >> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather. >> >> Ernie >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > wrote: >> >> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the >> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark. >> >> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical >> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the >> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and >> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield >> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the >> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug. >> >> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil >> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can >> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file. >> >> Dennis >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* John B > >> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server > > >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM >> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation >> >> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the >> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are >> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane >> was difficult to start. >> >> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the >> originals from Russia hold up well? >> >> Thank you! >> john b >> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke > > wrote: >> >> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the >> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft >> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus >> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility, >> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the >> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put >> a G3X in a TW. >> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics >> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area. >> Jimmy >> *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >> >> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >> ] *On Behalf Of >> *Roger Kemp >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM >> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation >> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that >> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving >> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. >> That way you can move it if you do not like it. >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke > > wrote: >> >> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to >> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has >> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion >> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the >> magnetometer? >> Jimmy Burke >> Jbyak52@gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.