---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/23/16: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:10 AM - Re: Mismatched and chewed up mags. (JL2A) 2. 02:10 PM - Housai engine for sale. (Michael Li-Paz) 3. 03:06 PM - FAST Formation Clinic at Historic Wendover Airfield! (barryhancock) 4. 05:20 PM - Start button, then whoosh (danbooker) 5. 05:31 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Ernest Martinez) 6. 05:45 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Roger Kemp) 7. 05:51 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Roger Kemp) 8. 05:54 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Hank Gibson) 9. 06:30 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (John B) 10. 07:39 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Ernest Martinez) 11. 07:39 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Ernest Martinez) 12. 07:46 PM - Re: Start button, then whoosh (Bill Geipel) 13. 10:46 PM - Re: Emergency brake (Ttail) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:29 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Mismatched and chewed up mags. From: "JL2A" Thanks all, yes I never dwelled on that little word in the maintenance manual 'if' In the sentence 'if the magnetos have equal timing....' Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454014#454014 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:26 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Housai engine for sale. From: Michael Li-Paz I'm selling my 650 hours Housai engine which I've taken of my CJ. It for some unknown reason, developed a crack under cylinder #2, on the bac k housing plate. I have a replacement housing plate which you can see in th e attached photo and I've been told by an overhaul shop that the engine can b e dismantled and rebuilt for approx. $ 2500. Engine is in good working ord er with good compression and oil pressure and be good for another 1000 hours , if you continue to care for it as I did. I'm asking $ 5000 including the extra plate, as is, at my location. KCMA. Michael "Pipes" Li-Paz. Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:04 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: FAST Formation Clinic at Historic Wendover Airfield! From: "barryhancock" FORMATION CLINIC! MAY 26-29! SAVE THE DATE! Interested in formation? Looking to sharpen your skills or work towards a FAST card? Come join us at Historic Wendover Field on the Utah/Nevada border (KENV) for a weekend of formation training, great camaraderie, and fun, all at the field that Paul Tibbets selected to train the Top Secret B-29 crews that would end WWII. Three different FAST signatories will be supporting the event (CAF/TRARON, NATA & RPA). So wether you are a Red Star or Blue Star, trainer or fighter, Jet or Prop, we will take care of you. We hope to have registration up soon. If you are planning to attend, please send me a private message. Thanks! Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454052#454052 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:13 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh From: "danbooker" When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? -------- Daniel Booker "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" 2312457798 danbooker@hotmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh From: Ernest Martinez Pull the prop through a few blades and try again. Ernie On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, danbooker wrote: > > > > When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller > movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? > > -------- > Daniel Booker > "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" > 2312457798 > danbooker@hotmail.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh From: Roger Kemp Air start valve is tits. Get a new one from Doug Sapp. It is on the inside firewall at about the level of your left big toe. If you have a YAK. 52. A pain in the ass to change. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, danbooker wrote: > > > When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? > > -------- > Daniel Booker > "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" > 2312457798 > danbooker@hotmail.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh From: Roger Kemp Agree with Ernie. But if you heard the rush of air on pressing the start but ton the air start is failing. Did you hear a pop when the air start was enga ged? If not the solenoid is failing. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Ernest Martinez wrote: > > Pull the prop through a few blades and try again. > > Ernie > >> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, danbooker wrote: >> >> When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller m ovement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? >> >> -------- >> Daniel Booker >> "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" >> 2312457798 >> danbooker@hotmail.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> br> fts!) >> r> > w.buildersbooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:05 PM PST US From: Hank Gibson Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh Could be a blown air distributor check valve located on the compression cyli nder; I had one so corroded it broke in half and was hanging on by the safe ty wire. There are 9 of course. Similar symptom you described. Hoot Gibson Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Ernest Martinez wrote: > > Pull the prop through a few blades and try again. > > Ernie > >> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, danbooker wrote: >> >> When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller m ovement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? >> >> -------- >> Daniel Booker >> "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" >> 2312457798 >> danbooker@hotmail.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> br> fts!) >> r> > w.buildersbooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:58 PM PST US From: John B Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh My 55 does something similar. The starter button is real springy, and soft. When I press on it, with the master switch off, it makes a faint hissing sound. It is an air valve, and an electrical switch as well, correct? John B On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Roger Kemp wrote: > > Air start valve is tits. Get a new one from Doug Sapp. It is on the inside > firewall at about the level of your left big toe. If you have a YAK. 52. A > pain in the ass to change. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, danbooker wrote: > > > > > > When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller > movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? > > > > -------- > > Daniel Booker > > "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" > > 2312457798 > > danbooker@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh From: Ernest Martinez It's an air solenoid, and electrically actuated air valve. It is very common however for the air distributor to get caught "in between" cylinders for lack of a better description, thereby venting air out an exhaust or intake valve. Pulling the prop through a little usually corrects the issue. If it happens often then you need to look at the distributor timing, which I have never done, but I understand it to be magic. Ernie On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, John B wrote: > My 55 does something similar. The starter button is real springy, and > soft. When I press on it, with the master switch off, it makes a faint > hissing sound. It is an air valve, and an electrical switch as well, > correct? > John B > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Roger Kemp > wrote: > >> > >> >> Air start valve is tits. Get a new one from Doug Sapp. It is on the >> inside firewall at about the level of your left big toe. If you have a YAK. >> 52. A pain in the ass to change. >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, danbooker > > wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller >> movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? >> > >> > -------- >> > Daniel Booker >> > "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" >> > 2312457798 >> > danbooker@hotmail.com >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> = >> br> fts!) >> r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> www.buildersbooks.com >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh From: Ernest Martinez I was referring to the air distributor. On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, Ernest Martinez wrote: > It's an air solenoid, and electrically actuated air valve. It is > very common however for the air distributor to get caught "in between" > cylinders for lack of a better description, thereby venting air out an > exhaust or intake valve. Pulling the prop through a little usually corrects > the issue. If it happens often then you need to look at the distributor > timing, which I have never done, but I understand it to be magic. > > Ernie > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, John B > wrote: > >> My 55 does something similar. The starter button is real springy, and >> soft. When I press on it, with the master switch off, it makes a faint >> hissing sound. It is an air valve, and an electrical switch as well, >> correct? >> John B >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Roger Kemp wrote: >> >>> >>> Air start valve is tits. Get a new one from Doug Sapp. It is on the >>> inside firewall at about the level of your left big toe. If you have a YAK. >>> 52. A pain in the ass to change. >>> Doc >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, danbooker wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no >>> propeller movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? >>> > >>> > -------- >>> > Daniel Booker >>> > "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" >>> > 2312457798 >>> > danbooker@hotmail.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Read this topic online here: >>> > >>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> = >>> br> fts!) >>> r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> www.buildersbooks.com >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> ========== >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:23 PM PST US From: Bill Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: Start button, then whoosh Just low on air. Fill up the tank. On Mar 23, 2016, at 20:39, Ernest Martinez wrote: > I was referring to the air distributor. > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, Ernest Martinez wrote: > It's an air solenoid, and electrically actuated air valve. It is very common however for the air distributor to get caught "in between" cylinders for lack of a better description, thereby venting air out an exhaust or intake valve. Pulling the prop through a little usually corrects the issue. If it happens often then you need to look at the distributor timing, which I have never done, but I understand it to be magic. > > Ernie > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016, John B wrote: > My 55 does something similar. The starter button is real springy, and soft. When I press on it, with the master switch off, it makes a faint hissing sound. It is an air valve, and an electrical switch as well, correct? > John B > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Roger Kemp wrote: > > Air start valve is tits. Get a new one from Doug Sapp. It is on the inside firewall at about the level of your left big toe. If you have a YAK. 52. A pain in the ass to change. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, danbooker wrote: > > > > > > When pushing start button, all I got was whoosh of air and no propeller movement. Heard air leaking, I think from behind dash. Any ideas? > > > > -------- > > Daniel Booker > > "Stealth-Eagle Aviation" > > 2312457798 > > danbooker@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454055#454055 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > br> fts!) > r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:18 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Emergency brake From: "Ttail" Same here Doug I would be very interested to see some details on your mod. 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