---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/08/16: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:45 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (A. Dennis Savarese) 2. 04:25 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (George Coy) 3. 04:58 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (Didier Blouzard) 4. 05:02 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (A. Dennis Savarese) 5. 06:27 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (Heaysr) 6. 07:51 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (A. Dennis Savarese) 7. 08:47 AM - Re: (Delfindriver) 8. 08:50 AM - (Robert Schwartz) 9. 09:09 AM - Re: Yak-18T Part (doug sapp) 10. 09:27 AM - Re: (A. Dennis Savarese) 11. 10:28 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (Roger Kemp) 12. 10:33 AM - Re: (Hans Oortman) 13. 10:33 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (KingCJ6@aol.com) 14. 11:21 AM - Re: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) (Greg Wrobel) 15. 11:22 AM - Re: (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=) 16. 11:30 AM - Re: (doug sapp) 17. 11:36 AM - Re: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) (doug sapp) 18. 11:39 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) 19. 12:13 PM - Re: Yak-18T Part (Patrick Ashura) 20. 12:52 PM - Re: (Hans Oortman) 21. 03:04 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) (Mark Davis) 22. 04:36 PM - Re: Yak-18T Part (Roger Kemp) 23. 05:07 PM - Re: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) (William Geipel) 24. 05:09 PM - Re: Yak-18T Part (William Geipel) 25. 05:12 PM - Re: (William Geipel) 26. 05:14 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (William Geipel) 27. 05:23 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (Ernest Martinez) 28. 07:41 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (William Geipel) 29. 07:55 PM - Re: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) (Greg Wrobel) 30. 08:16 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (Jon Blake) 31. 11:00 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (Re: Thread Hi-Jacking (William Geipel) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:49 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part That's what I was thinking too.=C2- But Patrick did say it was a slightly smaller diameter. Patrick, if you are reading this, maybe you could use your vernier caliper and measure the diameter and height of the piston and post a photo to the l ist.=C2- Possibly someone on the list will be able to answer your questio n.Dennis From: Didier BLOUZARD To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part I think it may be the same as the 52 Didier Blouzard+33 6 5184 4802 Le 8 juil. 2016 =C3- 04:41, A. Dennis Savarese a =C3=A9crit=C2-: I'm not sure this may be the answer because I personally do not know what t he 18T pop off valve piston looks like.=C2- But it may be the same as the one in the CJ6.=C2- Maybe Doug Sapp can post a photo of the pop off valv e piston and you can compare it to what yours looks like?Dennis=C2- From: Patrick Ashura To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:43 PM Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part Guys, I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be gr eatly appreciated! PJ Ashurk-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Li sthttp://forums.mat =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - NEW MATRONI CS LIST WIKI - _ http://wiki.matro =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Mats.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matroni cs.com/contribution============= ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part From: George Coy It is not the same as the yak 52. We sent him two of the Yak 52 units and th ey were a larger diameter and he needed. George coy Sent from my iPad > On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:03 AM, Didier BLOUZARD wr ote: > > I think it may be the same as the 52 > > Didier Blouzard > +33 6 5184 4802 > >> Le 8 juil. 2016 =C3- 04:41, A. Dennis Savarese a =C3=A9crit : >> >> I'm not sure this may be the answer because I personally do not know what the 18T pop off valve piston looks like. But it may be the same as the one in the CJ6. Maybe Doug Sapp can post a photo of the pop off valve piston a nd you can compare it to what yours looks like? >> Dennis >> >> >> From: Patrick Ashura >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:43 PM >> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part >> >> >> Guys, >> >> I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It i s a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be gr eatly appreciated! >> >> PJ Ashurk-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak- Listhttp://forums.mat - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - >> _ http://wiki.matro -Mats.com/contribution" target= "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution========== === >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:10 AM PST US From: Didier Blouzard Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part ok sorry about that thanks Georges that is a god point to know Didier 2016-07-08 13:24 GMT+02:00 George Coy : > It is not the same as the yak 52. We sent him two of the Yak 52 units and > they were a larger diameter and he needed. > > George coy > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:03 AM, Didier BLOUZARD > wrote: > > I think it may be the same as the 52 > > Didier Blouzard > +33 6 5184 4802 > > Le 8 juil. 2016 =C3- 04:41, A. Dennis Savarese > a =C3=A9crit : > > I'm not sure this may be the answer because I personally do not know what > the 18T pop off valve piston looks like. But it may be the same as the o ne > in the CJ6. Maybe Doug Sapp can post a photo of the pop off valve piston > and you can compare it to what yours looks like? > Dennis > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Patrick Ashura > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:43 PM > *Subject:* Yak-List: Yak-18T Part > > > Guys, > > I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It > is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would b e > greatly appreciated! > > PJ Ashurk-List" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhttp://forums.mat > - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > _ http://wiki.matro -Mats.com/contribution" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution====== ======= > > > > > > > > -- ____________________________ Didier BLOUZARD Directeur G=C3=A9n=C3=A9ral DATEXIS Portable : +33 6 51 84 48 02 Email: didier.blouzard@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:07 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part He may then have to swap the entire pop off valve cross assembly and attach ing check valves for the one used on the CJ because those parts are readily available.Dennis From: George Coy To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part It is not the same as the yak 52. We sent him two of the Yak 52 units and t hey were a larger diameter and he needed. George coy Sent from my iPad On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:03 AM, Didier BLOUZARD wro te: I think it may be the same as the 52 Didier Blouzard+33 6 5184 4802 Le 8 juil. 2016 =C3- 04:41, A. Dennis Savarese a =C3=A9crit=C2-: I'm not sure this may be the answer because I personally do not know what t he 18T pop off valve piston looks like.=C2- But it may be the same as the one in the CJ6.=C2- Maybe Doug Sapp can post a photo of the pop off valv e piston and you can compare it to what yours looks like?Dennis=C2- From: Patrick Ashura To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:43 PM Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part Guys, I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be gr eatly appreciated! PJ Ashurk-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Li sthttp://forums.mat =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - NEW MATRONI CS LIST WIKI - _ http://wiki.matro =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Mats.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matroni cs.com/contribution============= ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:32 AM PST US From: Heaysr Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part The Yak55 piston for the pop off valve is slightly smaller that for the Yak 52 as supplied by Jill at M14P. I mounted the piston on a wooden dowel and put the dowel in an electric drill as spun the piston walls against emery paper to turn the piston down to size. It works just fine. It's been 8 years now. Royden Heays ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Ashura Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part Guys, I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be greatly appreciated! PJ Ashura Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:34 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Now that was a brilliant idea Royden! I mean that sincerely. /-- // / //A. Dennis Savarese // //334-546-8182 (mobile)// //www.yak-52.com // //Skype - Yakguy1// On 7/8/2016 9:26 AM, Heaysr wrote: > > The Yak55 piston for the pop off valve is slightly smaller that for the Yak 52 as supplied by Jill at M14P. I mounted the piston on a wooden dowel and put the dowel in an electric drill as spun the piston walls against emery paper to turn the piston down to size. It works just fine. It's been 8 years now. > > Royden Heays > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patrick Ashura > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:43:57 -0600 (MDT) > Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part > > > Guys, > > I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > PJ Ashura > > Sent from my iPad > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:11 AM PST US From: Delfindriver Subject: Re: Yak-List: Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:36 AM PST US From: Robert Schwartz Subject: Yak-List: Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used to at tach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also the orignal part number.=C2-=C2- These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks =C2- =C2- =C2- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:19 AM PST US From: doug sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part The valve plunger inside the CJ pop off valve measures 0.4900 tall (12.45mm) and 0.4680 (11.89mm) dia. I show 54 in stock, order p/n H2-5502-10 @$20.00 each Best from here, Doug On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 7:50 AM, A. Dennis Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > Now that was a brilliant idea Royden! I mean that sincerely. > /-- // > / > //A. Dennis Savarese // > //334-546-8182 (mobile)// > //www.yak-52.com // > //Skype - Yakguy1// > > On 7/8/2016 9:26 AM, Heaysr wrote: > >> >> The Yak55 piston for the pop off valve is slightly smaller that for the >> Yak 52 as supplied by Jill at M14P. I mounted the piston on a wooden dowel >> and put the dowel in an electric drill as spun the piston walls against >> emery paper to turn the piston down to size. It works just fine. It's been >> 8 years now. >> >> Royden Heays >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Patrick Ashura >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:43:57 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part >> >> >> Guys, >> >> I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It >> is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be >> greatly appreciated! >> >> PJ Ashura >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: From: "A. Dennis Savarese" I don't have the part number. We replace these screws with4mm x 12mm or 13mm metric Philips Truss Head screws. I'm sure you can find the same size slot head screws in steel instead of stainless. /-- // / //A. Dennis Savarese // //334-546-8182 (mobile)// //www.yak-52.com // //Skype - Yakguy1// On 7/8/2016 11:49 AM, Robert Schwartz wrote: > > Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used > to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also > the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking From: Roger Kemp Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better? Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > > > I think I am offended. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM > To: yak-list > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking > > The horse lives! > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > > Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered with the proper "tone of voice"..... all that aside ..... > > I think the most important question is this: Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned? > > If you have ... GREAT! Because we *ALL* should. To those that have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess who you're voting for. And by the way, this is called "Opening Pandora's Box". > > Big smile... Big smile. > > > > > ========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: From: Hans Oortman And I have changed them into stainless torx because these are stronger and better suited for electric screwdrivers.... Hans O. PH-YAK Op 08-07-16 18:27, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: > > > I don't have the part number. We replace these screws with4mm x 12mm or > 13mm metric Philips Truss Head screws. I'm sure you can find the same > size slot head screws in steel instead of stainless. > /-- // > / > //A. Dennis Savarese // > //334-546-8182 (mobile)// > //www.yak-52.com // > //Skype - Yakguy1// > On 7/8/2016 11:49 AM, Robert Schwartz wrote: >> >> Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used >> to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also >> the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:31 AM PST US From: KingCJ6@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!! In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, f16viperdoc@me.com writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Kemp Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better? Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > > > I think I am offended. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM > To: yak-list > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking > > The horse lives! > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > > Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered with the proper "tone of voice"..... all that aside ..... > > I think the most important question is this: Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned? > > If you have ... GREAT! Because we *ALL* should. To those that have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess who you're voting for. And by the way, this is called "Opening Pandora's Box". > > Big smile... Big smile. > > > > > ========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) From: Greg Wrobel All I have is a wire mesh. In the winter, I use a piece of duct tape. A lot of times it's cold in the morning when I launch but by the afternoon it's hot. It's easy to put the duct tape off and on as necessary. One day someone is going to design an adjustable inlet and make some fuel and parts money. As we all know closing the exit door of the oil cool duct isn't very effective. You have got to block it from the front. On Jun 29, 2016 8:12 AM, "Philip Nicholson" wrote: > Good day, > does anyone have a lead on an oil cooler inlet plug for the wing root. > Are they commercially available or are people handcrafting their own. Doug > is out of stock. > Please contact me offline, > Thanks, > Phil Nicholson > C-FEPN > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:17 AM PST US From: =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?= Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hans, Do you have link to supplier you use for Torx screws? Br Havard Sendt fra min iPhone > Den 8. jul. 2016 kl. 19.32 skrev Hans Oortman : > > > And I have changed them into stainless torx because these are stronger and > better suited for electric screwdrivers.... > > Hans O. > PH-YAK > > > Op 08-07-16 18:27, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: > >> >> >> I don't have the part number. We replace these screws with4mm x 12mm or >> 13mm metric Philips Truss Head screws. I'm sure you can find the same >> size slot head screws in steel instead of stainless. >> /-- // >> / >> //A. Dennis Savarese // >> //334-546-8182 (mobile)// >> //www.yak-52.com // >> //Skype - Yakguy1// >>> On 7/8/2016 11:49 AM, Robert Schwartz wrote: >>> >>> Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used >>> to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also >>> the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:03 AM PST US From: doug sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: I do not carry the SS torx, but do have the SS low profile phillips 4 and 5 mm screws in stock. Doug On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:21 AM, H=C3=A5vard Dale w rote: > yaknorway52@gmail.com> > > Hans, > > Do you have link to supplier you use for Torx screws? > > Br > Havard > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > Den 8. jul. 2016 kl. 19.32 skrev Hans Oortman : > > > > > > And I have changed them into stainless torx because these are stronger > and > > better suited for electric screwdrivers.... > > > > Hans O. > > PH-YAK > > > > > > Op 08-07-16 18:27, A. Dennis Savarese > schreef: > > > >> > >> > >> I don't have the part number. We replace these screws with4mm x 12mm or > >> 13mm metric Philips Truss Head screws. I'm sure you can find the same > >> size slot head screws in steel instead of stainless. > >> /-- // > >> / > >> //A. Dennis Savarese // > >> //334-546-8182 (mobile)// > >> //www.yak-52.com // > >> //Skype - Yakguy1// > >>> On 7/8/2016 11:49 AM, Robert Schwartz wrote: > >>> > >>> Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used > >>> to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also > >>> the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:14 AM PST US From: doug sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) Greg, I stock the Chinese winterization kit which consists of a movable door which installs in the oil cooler duct opening. It allows you to open the slide door open for more cooling or slide it shut for less. Doug On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Greg Wrobel wrote: > All I have is a wire mesh. In the winter, I use a piece of duct tape. A > lot of times it's cold in the morning when I launch but by the afternoon > it's hot. It's easy to put the duct tape off and on as necessary. One day > someone is going to design an adjustable inlet and make some fuel and parts > money. As we all know closing the exit door of the oil cool duct isn't very > effective. You have got to block it from the front. > On Jun 29, 2016 8:12 AM, "Philip Nicholson" > wrote: > >> Good day, >> does anyone have a lead on an oil cooler inlet plug for the wing root. >> Are they commercially available or are people handcrafting their own. Doug >> is out of stock. >> Please contact me offline, >> Thanks, >> Phil Nicholson >> C-FEPN >> > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:30 AM PST US From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) Just FYI, there is a veritherm that is made to fit the Russian oil cooler. There are pro's and con's on whether it is a good idea to have it in there, but for what it is worth, I have it installed in my YAK-50. It takes care of temperature regulation issues in winter and summer. Not suggesting that it eliminates having to pre-heat. However, once the engine is safely started, oil temp comes up very quickly and is stays perfectly in the green even with extremely cold outside temps. Just another way of skinning the cat. Mark p.s. The real problem is that I do not have a ready source for this piece. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 2:21 PM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) All I have is a wire mesh. In the winter, I use a piece of duct tape. A lot of times it's cold in the morning when I launch but by the afternoon it's hot. It's easy to put the duct tape off and on as necessary. One day someone is going to design an adjustable inlet and make some fuel and parts money. As we all know closing the exit door of the oil cool duct isn't very effective. You have got to block it from the front. On Jun 29, 2016 8:12 AM, "Philip Nicholson" wrote: Good day, does anyone have a lead on an oil cooler inlet plug for the wing root. Are they commercially available or are people handcrafting their own. Doug is out of stock. Please contact me offline, Thanks, Phil Nicholson C-FEPN ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:39 PM PST US From: Patrick Ashura Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part Great Idea! I may be doing that this weekend. PJ Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:50 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > > Now that was a brilliant idea Royden! I mean that sincerely. > /-- // > / > //A. Dennis Savarese // > //334-546-8182 (mobile)// > //www.yak-52.com // > //Skype - Yakguy1// >> On 7/8/2016 9:26 AM, Heaysr wrote: >> >> The Yak55 piston for the pop off valve is slightly smaller that for the Yak 52 as supplied by Jill at M14P. I mounted the piston on a wooden dowel and put the dowel in an electric drill as spun the piston walls against emery paper to turn the piston down to size. It works just fine. It's been 8 years now. >> >> Royden Heays >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Patrick Ashura >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:43:57 -0600 (MDT) >> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part >> >> >> Guys, >> >> I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> PJ Ashura >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: From: Hans Oortman Here it is: http://www.borenco.nl/c/1_208_7295/bevestigingsmaterialen/torx-schroeven/laa gbolkopschroeven-torx-iso-7380f-a2/ Hans O. Op 08-07-16 20:21, Hvard Dale schreef: > > > Hans, > > Do you have link to supplier you use for Torx screws? > > Br > Havard > > Sendt fra min iPhone > >> Den 8. jul. 2016 kl. 19.32 skrev Hans Oortman : >> >> >> And I have changed them into stainless torx because these are stronger and >> better suited for electric screwdrivers.... >> >> Hans O. >> PH-YAK >> >> >> Op 08-07-16 18:27, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: >> >>> >>> >>> I don't have the part number. We replace these screws with4mm x 12mm or >>> 13mm metric Philips Truss Head screws. I'm sure you can find the same >>> size slot head screws in steel instead of stainless. >>> /-- // >>> / >>> //A. Dennis Savarese // >>> //334-546-8182 (mobile)// >>> //www.yak-52.com // >>> //Skype - Yakguy1// >>>> On 7/8/2016 11:49 AM, Robert Schwartz wrote: >>>> >>>> Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used >>>> to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also >>>> the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:56 PM PST US From: "Mark Davis" Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) The veritherm system works well. In cold weather, less than 45 degrees, I can see mine open up on the oil temp gauge and send cold oil to the engine. Therefore, I wait until I see it open the first time and let the oil temp come back up into range before I take off. The first time it opens will send the oil temp below normal operating temps. Even with 25W-60 oil, I'm afraid of sending a big glug of 35-40 degree oil to the engine. As always, your mileage may vary... Mark Davis N44YK -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) --> Just FYI, there is a veritherm that is made to fit the Russian oil cooler. There are pro's and con's on whether it is a good idea to have it in there, but for what it is worth, I have it installed in my YAK-50. It takes care of temperature regulation issues in winter and summer. Not suggesting that it eliminates having to pre-heat. However, once the engine is safely started, oil temp comes up very quickly and is stays perfectly in the green even with extremely cold outside temps. Just another way of skinning the cat. Mark p.s. The real problem is that I do not have a ready source for this piece. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Wrobel Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 2:21 PM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) All I have is a wire mesh. In the winter, I use a piece of duct tape. A lot of times it's cold in the morning when I launch but by the afternoon it's hot. It's easy to put the duct tape off and on as necessary. One day someone is going to design an adjustable inlet and make some fuel and parts money. As we all know closing the exit door of the oil cool duct isn't very effective. You have got to block it from the front. On Jun 29, 2016 8:12 AM, "Philip Nicholson" wrote: Good day, does anyone have a lead on an oil cooler inlet plug for the wing root. Are they commercially available or are people handcrafting their own. Doug is out of stock. Please contact me offline, Thanks, Phil Nicholson C-FEPN ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:36:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part From: Roger Kemp George a Coy is an additional source. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:02 AM, Didier BLOUZARD wrote: > > > You may find it with Dennis or Jill. > > Didier Blouzard > +33 6 5184 4802 > >> Le 8 juil. 2016 02:43, Patrick Ashura a crit : >> >> >> Guys, >> >> I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> PJ Ashura >> >> Sent from my iPad > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:29 PM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) Dale??? > On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:20, Greg Wrobel wrote: > > All I have is a wire mesh. In the winter, I use a piece of duct tape. A lot of times it's cold in the morning when I launch but by the afternoon it's hot. It's easy to put the duct tape off and on as necessary. One day someone is going to design an adjustable inlet and make some fuel and parts money. As we all know closing the exit door of the oil cool duct isn't very effective. You have got to block it from the front. > > On Jun 29, 2016 8:12 AM, "Philip Nicholson" > wrote: > Good day, > does anyone have a lead on an oil cooler inlet plug for the wing root. Are they commercially available or are people handcrafting their own. Doug is out of stock. > Please contact me offline, > Thanks, > Phil Nicholson > C-FEPN ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part From: William Geipel Finally some happy people and news!! > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:13, Patrick Ashura wrote: > > > Great Idea! I may be doing that this weekend. > PJ > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:50 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: >> >> >> Now that was a brilliant idea Royden! I mean that sincerely. >> /-- // >> / >> //A. Dennis Savarese // >> //334-546-8182 (mobile)// >> //www.yak-52.com // >> //Skype - Yakguy1// >>> On 7/8/2016 9:26 AM, Heaysr wrote: >>> >>> The Yak55 piston for the pop off valve is slightly smaller that for the Yak 52 as supplied by Jill at M14P. I mounted the piston on a wooden dowel and put the dowel in an electric drill as spun the piston walls against emery paper to turn the piston down to size. It works just fine. It's been 8 years now. >>> >>> Royden Heays >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Patrick Ashura >>> To: yak-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:43:57 -0600 (MDT) >>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-18T Part >>> >>> >>> Guys, >>> >>> I need the pop off valve piston (with the rubber end) for my Yak-18T. It is a slightly smaller diameter than the one for the '52. Any help would be greatly appreciated! >>> >>> PJ Ashura >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: From: William Geipel Makes perfect sense to me??? > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:52, Hans Oortman wrote: > > > Here it is: > > http://www.borenco.nl/c/1_208_7295/bevestigingsmaterialen/torx-schroeven/laa > gbolkopschroeven-torx-iso-7380f-a2/ > > Hans O. > > Op 08-07-16 20:21, Hvard Dale schreef: > >> >> >> Hans, >> >> Do you have link to supplier you use for Torx screws? >> >> Br >> Havard >> >> Sendt fra min iPhone >> >>> Den 8. jul. 2016 kl. 19.32 skrev Hans Oortman : >>> >>> >>> And I have changed them into stainless torx because these are stronger and >>> better suited for electric screwdrivers.... >>> >>> Hans O. >>> PH-YAK >>> >>> >>> Op 08-07-16 18:27, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't have the part number. We replace these screws with4mm x 12mm or >>>> 13mm metric Philips Truss Head screws. I'm sure you can find the same >>>> size slot head screws in steel instead of stainless. >>>> /-- // >>>> / >>>> //A. Dennis Savarese // >>>> //334-546-8182 (mobile)// >>>> //www.yak-52.com // >>>> //Skype - Yakguy1// >>>>> On 7/8/2016 11:49 AM, Robert Schwartz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can someone provide the lenght and size in metric for the screws used >>>>> to attach the upper gap seals between wing and fuselage yak 52. Also >>>>> the orignal part number. These are small steel slot head screws. Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:55 PM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking Not to start any in-breeding or fighting, but what is the reason for the Non-DoD Source blah blah? > On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:33, KingCJ6@aol.com wrote: > > Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!! > > In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, f16viperdoc@me.com writes: > > Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better? > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think I am offended. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM > > To: yak-list > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking > > > > The horse lives! > > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > > NAVAIR, WD" > > > > Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered with the proper "tone of voice"..... all that aside ..... > > > > I think the most important question is this: Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned? > > > > If you have ... GREAT! Because we *ALL* should. To those that have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess who you're voting for. And by the way, this is called "Opening Pandora's Box". > > > > Big smile... Big smile. > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > FORUMS - > > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > > WIKI - > > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > ========== > > b Site - > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================== e ties Day ===================== == - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ======================= Contribution Web Site sp; ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking From: Ernest Martinez Hey Bill, I know you live in the mountains and all, but does your email arrive by USPS, and you're forced to respond to every post for the past month all at once =F0=9F=98 On Friday, July 8, 2016, William Geipel wrote: > Not to start any in-breeding or fighting, but what is the reason for the > Non-DoD Source blah blah? > > > On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:33, KingCJ6@aol.com > wrote: > > Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!! > > In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > f16viperdoc@me.com > writes: > > > > > Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, an d > pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your > crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling > your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. Ther e > feel better? > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD < > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil > > wrote: > > > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil > > > > > > > > > > I think I am offended. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you .. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [ > mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > ] On > Behalf Of Ernest Martinez > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM > > To: yak-list > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread > Hi-Jacking > > > > The horse lives! > > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD < > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil > > wrote: > > > > > WD" > > > > > Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that > do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those th at > don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to > ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not > answered with the proper "tone of voice"..... all that aside ..... > > > > I think the most important question is this: Of everyone here > that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers > .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this lis t > (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned? > > > > If you have ... GREAT! Because we *ALL* should. To those tha t > have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this lis t > and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I > can guess who you're voting for. And by the way, this is called "Openin g > Pandora's Box". > > > > Big smile... Big smile. > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > FORUMS - > > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > > WIKI - > > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > ========== > > b Site - > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================= =e ties Day ==================== == > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ================ ======= - NEW MATRONICS > LIST WIKI - > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:14 PM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking In Korea. The south one. So it takes awhile to get over the mountains. > On Jul 8, 2016, at 18:23, Ernest Martinez wrote: > > Hey Bill, > > I know you live in the mountains and all, but does your email arrive by USPS, and you're forced to respond to every post for the past month all at once =F0=9F=98 > > On Friday, July 8, 2016, William Geipel > wrote: > Not to start any in-breeding or fighting, but what is the reason for the Non-DoD Source blah blah? > > > >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:33, KingCJ6@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!! >> >> In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, f16viperdoc@me.com writes: > >> >> Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better? >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > wrote: >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > I think I am offended. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM >> > To: yak-list >> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking >> > >> > The horse lives! >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > wrote: >> > >> > NAVAIR, WD" > >> > >> > Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered with the proper "tone of voice"..... all that aside ..... >> > >> > I think the most important question is this: Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned? >> > >> > If you have ... GREAT! Because we *ALL* should. To those that have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess who you're voting for. And by the way, this is called "Opening Pandora's Box". >> > >> > Big smile... Big smile. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ========== >> > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> > ========== >> > FORUMS - >> > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> > ========== >> > WIKI - >> > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> > ========== >> > b Site - >> > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > ========== >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ======================= =e ties Day ==================== === - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ========== ============= - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Oil cooler inlet plug (CJ) From: Greg Wrobel Can you move the slider from the cockpit durning flight?? I'm not familiar with the kit. Is it in the parts manuals?? I love pictures. Heck if it wasn't for pictures, I could never order anything off a menu. :-) On Jul 8, 2016 1:39 PM, "doug sapp" wrote: > Greg, > I stock the Chinese winterization kit which consists of a movable door > which installs in the oil cooler duct opening. It allows you to open the > slide door open for more cooling or slide it shut for less. > > Doug > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Greg Wrobel wrote: > >> All I have is a wire mesh. In the winter, I use a piece of duct tape. A >> lot of times it's cold in the morning when I launch but by the afternoon >> it's hot. It's easy to put the duct tape off and on as necessary. One day >> someone is going to design an adjustable inlet and make some fuel and parts >> money. As we all know closing the exit door of the oil cool duct isn't very >> effective. You have got to block it from the front. >> On Jun 29, 2016 8:12 AM, "Philip Nicholson" >> wrote: >> >>> Good day, >>> does anyone have a lead on an oil cooler inlet plug for the wing root. >>> Are they commercially available or are people handcrafting their own. 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Hillary? Oh my. > On Jul 8, 2016, at 21:15, Jon Blake wrote: > > When he (Bitterlick) replied earlier using official the DoD email the system (US Navy) it automatically inserted the "Non-DoD Source" statement... this is intended to alert official email users of unofficial or non DoD traffic. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > > > William Geipel wrote: > > Not to start any in-breeding or fighting, but what is the reason for the Non-DoD Source blah blah? > > > >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:33, KingCJ6@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hopefully while wearing a flight suit!! >> >> In a message dated 7/8/2016 10:29:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, f16viperdoc@me.com writes: > >> >> Have you decided yet? Offended or not? Relax, sit back, take a breath, and pop a cap on a cool MMO. Let the aromatic red fluid flow through your crevasses. Pretty soon those chunks of carbon will be falling and fouling your filters for elimination from your system with your next change. There feel better? >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Jul 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > wrote: >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > I think I am offended. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Ernest Martinez >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 3:25 PM >> > To: yak-list >> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] M14 engine sale (re: Thread Hi-Jacking >> > >> > The horse lives! >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > wrote: >> > >> > NAVAIR, WD" > >> > >> > Regardless of who's feelings got hurt, regardless of those that do not understand the term "with all due respect", regardless of those that don't understand "it was a joke", regardless of those that are afraid to ask questions, regardless of those who feel that their questions were not answered with the proper "tone of voice"..... all that aside ..... >> > >> > I think the most important question is this: Of everyone here that asks and answers questions, whether they be brand new, or old timers .... how many contribute cash money to Matt Dralle every year so this list (and a ton of others) can be maintained to the benefit of all concerned? >> > >> > If you have ... GREAT! Because we *ALL* should. To those that have not contributed one red cent and have the gonads to come on this list and complain about ANYTHING AT ALL ..... well, good luck with that and I can guess who you're voting for. And by the way, this is called "Opening Pandora's Box". >> > >> > Big smile... Big smile. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ========== >> > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> > ========== >> > FORUMS - >> > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> > ========== >> > WIKI - >> > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> > ========== >> > b Site - >> > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > ========== >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ======================= =e ties Day ==================== === - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ========== ============= - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.