---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/18/16: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:31 AM - Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Top Ace) 2. 11:57 AM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Richard Hess) 3. 12:31 PM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Top Ace) 4. 01:16 PM - Dynamic Balancing in the NW (threein60) 5. 06:06 PM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Roger Kemp) 6. 08:07 PM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Walter Lannon) 7. 09:49 PM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (cjpilot710@aol.com) 8. 09:50 PM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Royden Heays) 9. 11:01 PM - Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus (Jan Mevis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:22 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus From: "Top Ace" New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which is stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, My main question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to be emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell W100 and run with it. Or more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, and drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or better to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:38 AM PST US From: Richard Hess Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus David I would not worry about a little of the old oil being in the engine. You'll get rid of most of it with an oil change and normal service replacement. Richard Hess C 404-964-4885 > On Jul 18, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Top Ace wrote: > > > New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which is stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, > My main question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to be emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell W100 and run with it. Or > more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, and drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or better to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:05 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus From: "Top Ace" Richard, Best to ask, Terry on this site said the same thing, made different oil brand changes to other aviation engines, Big But' its my first radial, and like any good student, ask first, thanks for the advice, David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458323#458323 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:56 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Dynamic Balancing in the NW From: "threein60" There has been a lot of issues with getting dynamic propeller balancing here in the upper NW area. Since the shop at AWO has closed up, and other local shops can be weeks out before openings (even if they accepted round engines) - I will offer my services. I am an A&P/Avionics Engineer for the last 21 years. I have a Dynavib GX2. I am able to dynamically balance propellers as well as provide a spectrum analysis of engine/airframe vibrations for both certified as well as Experimental aircraft. This is very helpful in locating issues when your prop has been both statically as well as dynamically balanced and you still are experiencing vibrations. I am based out of AWO but can travel within reason. If interested please contact me at 480-544-2244. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458326#458326 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus From: Roger Kemp Go on line to the oil store.com. You can order all the cases of 25W-60 you want. Delivered to your back door. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jul 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Top Ace wrote: > > > New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which is stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, > My main question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to be emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell W100 and run with it. Or > more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, and drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or better to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:25 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus No need to do any of that. Phillips 25W60 is a mineral oil and is fully compatible with Aeroshell W100 or W120. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Top Ace Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which is stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, My main question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to be emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell W100 and run with it. Or more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, and drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or better to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:59 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus I agree with Walt. Just change out the oil on your next oil change. You can drain your cooler too, IF you want but you don't need too. I've always used W100 or W120. Each time I've used 25W60, I get oil leaks. And it seem to come from every where on the engine. I do not know why. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 7/18/2016 11:07:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wlannon@shaw.ca writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Walter Lannon" No need to do any of that. Phillips 25W60 is a mineral oil and is fully compatible with Aeroshell W100 or W120. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Top Ace Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which is stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, My main question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to be emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell W100 and run with it. Or more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, and drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or better to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:45 PM PST US From: "Royden Heays" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus Thanks for your reassuring message Walt. I have found that some FBOs don't carry Phillips 25W60 and others don't carry Aeroshell W100, which can be a pain when travelling around the USA if one is married to one brand. I switch and mix as he need arises and haven't seen any bad effects, but while trying not to do it too often. Jill has advised previously on the Yak list that prolonged use of Phillips can cause valve sticking with deposit build up (as I remember her to say) but that can be countered with the prescribed dosage of CamGuard, while use Aeroshell doen't seem to result in that "problem" Jill. Are you there? Please confirm I'm not misquoting you. Regards Royden -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus No need to do any of that. Phillips 25W60 is a mineral oil and is fully compatible with Aeroshell W100 or W120. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Top Ace Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:30 AM Subject: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which is stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, My main question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to be emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell W100 and run with it. Or more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, and drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or better to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus From: Jan Mevis The W100 Plus has an additive comparable to the CamGuard. Its also more protective against corrosion so its the better choice for engines that dont run very often. Im using it since many years. Phillips oil is virtually impossible to get in Europe. Jan On 19/07/16 06:50, "Royden Heays" wrote: > >Thanks for your reassuring message Walt. > >I have found that some FBOs don't carry Phillips 25W60 and others don't >carry Aeroshell W100, which can be a pain when travelling around the USA >if >one is married to one brand. > >I switch and mix as he need arises and haven't seen any bad effects, but >while trying not to do it too often. > >Jill has advised previously on the Yak list that prolonged use of >Phillips >can cause valve sticking with deposit build up (as I remember her to say) >but that can be countered with the prescribed dosage of CamGuard, while >use >Aeroshell doen't seem to result in that "problem" > >Jill. > > Are you there? Please confirm I'm not misquoting you. > >Regards > >Royden > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Walter Lannon >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:07 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus > > >No need to do any of that. Phillips 25W60 is a mineral oil and is fully >compatible with Aeroshell W100 or W120. > >Walt > >-----Original Message----- >From: Top Ace >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:30 AM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Phillips 25W-60 converting to Shell W100Plus > > >New CJ owner, looking for knowledgeable advice, this engine has been using >the Phillips 25w-60, which is still being run on today,,, due to not easy >access of this oil, I want to change it over to the Shell W100 Plus which >is >stock in my area,, which I can read that many of you are using,,, My main >question is just draining the oil tank, and cooler, and filter, enough to >be >emptied out of the old W25-60, then filled with the new shell >W100 and run with it. Or >more I think of it,,,would it be advisable to run it maybe 5 to 10 hrs, >and >drain it again to clear up any remainder w25-60,,, any suggestions or >better >to tell me what i should do, , would be appreciated, thanks David > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458316#458316 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.