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1. 06:40 AM - Re: Grease, AeroShell # 6 Or, Mobile 28 Question (Top Ace)
2. 07:21 AM - Snot Valve Not Snotting... (ChangDriver)
3. 07:48 AM - Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... (Walter Lannon)
4. 08:32 AM - Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... (Rico Jaeger)
5. 09:30 AM - Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 09:39 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
7. 07:37 PM - Fw: Yak-11 Mishap Update #1 (James Goolsby)
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| Subject: | Re: Grease, AeroShell # 6 Or, Mobile 28 Question |
Would like to thank you guys for your response on the recommended grease being
used on the CJ, Areo Shell # 5, Thanks, David
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| Subject: | Snot Valve Not Snotting... |
After the last time I flew, I opened the snot valve and instead of the gunk blowing
out it dribbled out. Plane makes pressure and everything else is operating
normally. What do I need to clean/fix?
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... |
Compressor. Start with the output check valve.
-----Original Message-----
From: ChangDriver
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:20 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Snot Valve Not Snotting...
After the last time I flew, I opened the snot valve and instead of the gunk
blowing out it dribbled out. Plane makes pressure and everything else is
operating normally. What do I need to clean/fix?
Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... |
>From someone who's been down this road so many times they named the street after
me...you said the system seems to be operating normally other than the snot
valve? So if your gauges are registering air pressure regeneration, the compressor
is doing its job. The snot valve can be finicky in that it can easily develop
reasons to incompletely close - either from basic wear & tear to needle
valve obstructions to just accidentally being left partially open. If this were
the case, there could still be enough closure to build pressure but just enough
seepage to continuously clear the valve. Whatever the case, ripping the system
apart is a pain. The 3' tall line workers with the 11" fingers that built
these planes musta smirked every day when pondering we Westerners trying to dig
into the many dark nooks & crannies with our sausage digits. I would highly
suggest you start with the simplest options in your trial / elimination process
before cutting too much safety wire. Always happy to pass on what I've learned
here, but far from the level of the masters like Dennis, Jill and Doug.
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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Subject: Yak-List: Snot Valve Not Snotting...
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| Subject: | Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... |
Remove the snot bottle from the firewall; remove the valve assembly from th
e bottle and flush it out through all 3 openings with solvent or avgas.=C2
- When it runs out clean, air dry it out, then reinstall and test the sys
tem.Dennis
From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Snot Valve Not Snotting...
>From someone who's been down this road so many times they named the street
after me...you said the system seems to be operating normally other than t
he snot valve? So if your gauges are registering air pressure regeneration,
the compressor is doing its job. The snot valve can be finicky in that it
can easily develop reasons to incompletely close - either from basic wear &
tear to needle valve obstructions to just accidentally being left partiall
y open. If this were the case, there could still be enough closure to build
pressure but just enough seepage to continuously clear the valve. Whatever
the case, ripping the system apart is a pain. The 3' tall line workers wit
h the 11" fingers that built these planes musta smirked every day when pond
ering we Westerners trying to dig into the many dark nooks & crannies with
our sausage digits. I would highly suggest you start with the simplest opti
ons in your trial / elimination process before cutting too much safety wire
. Always happy!
=C2- to pass on what I've learned here, but far from the level of the mas
ters like Dennis, Jill and Doug.
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> -----Original Message----- From: ChangDriver
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:20 AM
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> Subject: Yak-List: Snot Valve Not Snotting...
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nk blowing out it dribbled out.=C2- Plane makes pressure and everything e
lse is operating normally.=C2- What do I need to clean/fix?
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| Subject: | Re: Snot Valve Not Snotting... |
Before I had any experience with what "usually" fails, I had this very same exact
problem. Given that it is hard to hear leaks with the engine running, I decided
I needed some other way to pressurize the system and find where the leak
was. I did this by obtaining a regulator and an air source where I could attach
700 PSI of air into any point in the system I wanted. Since I made this
rig, it has been invaluable numerous times. Emphasis on having a good regulator!
After the snot valve, the air line goes up to a central fitting where there are
check valves and also the over pressure relief valve, or "pressure regulator"
if you will. The brass fitting with rubber end and spring deal, that if you
don't know intimately now, you soon will.
Detaching that and pressurizing the line BACKWARDS, forcing air back towards the
compressor quickly found the problem. The "output check valve" on the compressor,
I.E. Exactly the one Walter was talking about. The next time it was the
Banjo Fitting that is also part of that whole "output check valve" mess. Why?
Because I did not replace the aluminum crush washers the FIRST time I repaired
it. Lesson learned.
Yes, I have had the snot valve leak as well, but always to where I could hear it
as soon as I shut the engine down. Never-the-less, reverse pressurizing the
line proved that one too.
I despise being reduced to 'dive bombing" or "shot-gunning" a problem. When I
have an electrical problem, I go grab a meter, a scope, a watt-meter, whatever.
Just like not running for a crescent wrench and instead having a good set of
wrenches in EVERY size! :-) My point is that when you have an airplane that
incorporates compressed air for a number of different functions (flaps, gear,
brakes, etc.) it is incombent on even a backyard mechanic to have some tools
to deal with it. Making something like this is not exactly "trivial", but it
is a necessary addition to Yak and CJ aircraft owners who desire to do their
own troubleshooting. Otherwise, get used to "changing shit" and then wondering
whether you just fixed it, or made it even worse.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]
on behalf of Rico Jaeger [rocknpilot@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 11:30 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Snot Valve Not Snotting...
>From someone who's been down this road so many times they named the street after
me...you said the system seems to be operating normally other than the snot
valve? So if your gauges are registering air pressure regeneration, the compressor
is doing its job. The snot valve can be finicky in that it can easily develop
reasons to incompletely close - either from basic wear & tear to needle
valve obstructions to just accidentally being left partially open. If this were
the case, there could still be enough closure to build pressure but just enough
seepage to continuously clear the valve. Whatever the case, ripping the system
apart is a pain. The 3' tall line workers with the 11" fingers that built
these planes musta smirked every day when pondering we Westerners trying to dig
into the many dark nooks & crannies with our sausage digits. I would highly
suggest you start with the simplest options in your trial / elimination process
before cutting too much safety wire. Always happy!
to pass on what I've learned here, but far from the level of the masters like
Dennis, Jill and Doug.
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
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> Compressor. Start with the output check valve.
>
> Ot valve
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> -----Original Message----- From: ChangDriver
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:20 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Snot Valve Not Snotting...
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> After the last time I flew, I opened the snot valve and instead of the gunk blowing
out it dribbled out. Plane makes pressure and everything else is operating
normally. What do I need to clean/fix?
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> Craig
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=459093#459093
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| Subject: | Fwd: Yak-11 Mishap Update #1 |
Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Hartley Postlethwaite <president@flyredstar.org>
> Date: August 2, 2016 at 13:02:45 CDT
> To: cjpilot710@aol.com
> Subject: Yak-11 Mishap Update #1
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> Red Star Pilots Association
> It is my sad duty to inform the membership that Ira Saligman passed away l
ate on Sunday just before midnight. His internal organs shut down as infect
ions overcame his body from the burns. Ira was attempting to recover from h
is Yak-11 landing mishap that occurred just one week ago.
>
> It is sad when we lose a brother and fellow pilot who loved flying as much
as he did. The entire Red Star Pilots Association staff sends our deepest c
ondolences to the family. This is truly is a loss to the aviation community
, his family, and friends.
>
> The funeral is this Friday, August 5th, 2016 at 11am. The funeral home is
located Northeast of Philadelphia at Joseph Levine and Sons, 4737 Street Rd
, Feasterville-Trevose, Pennsylvania.
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> You may send condolences for the family to peter@saligman.com.
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> Blue Skies my friend! Your RPA brothers and sisters will miss you.
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> -Postal
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> president@flyredstar.org
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> http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/10885929-74/airport-allegheny-county
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> http://www.wpxi.com/news/pilot-dies-nearly-1-week-after-flames-engulf-plan
e-at-allegheny-county-airport/411161284
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> Hartley A. Postlethwaite V
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> Red Star Pilot Association President
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> This email was sent to cjpilot710@aol.com by Hartley Postlethwaite
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