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Mon 09/19/16


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 03:39 AM - Spammer (Craig Payne)
     2. 05:49 AM - Re: Spammer (Roger Kemp)
     3. 08:10 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Helpful electornic (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
     4. 08:42 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Spammer (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
     5. 08:28 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Helpful electornic (Roger Kemp)
     6. 08:36 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Spammer (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:39:33 AM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com>
    Subject: Spammer
    I noticed that our Jammer/Spammer has invaded a few other Matronic-list forums as well. He is also peddling some GPS jammer junk. Perfect for that "missed approach". Craig Payne


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    Time: 05:49:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Spammer
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    A report to the FCC maybe in order if he is peddling GPS jammer S. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > I noticed that our Jammer/Spammer has invaded a few other Matronic-list forums as well. He is also peddling some GPS jammer junk. Perfect for that "missed approach". > > Craig Payne


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    Time: 08:10:15 AM PST US
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Subject: Re: Helpful electornic
    You might try replying to the actual person who sent the email and not the list Doc. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:39 PM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Helpful electornic So tell me what do cell phone jamming have to do with flying and maintaining Red Star Aircraft? Bugger off. If I want cell phone silence I will turn it off. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:02 AM, jamlieleven <jamlieleven@muchomail.com> wrote: > > --> <jamlieleven@muchomail.com> > > To keep us away of cell phone noise and return the quiet environment to us, it comes a new technology device-cell phone jammer (http://www.skybuying.com/category-177-b0.html). Cell phones bring us convenience in our lives, we could use it to do more and more works. But when people use it at any time in any where, noise problem comes. There are many places we need to keep a quiet enviroment, like in a library, in a church, in a restaurant, in a conference room, in an exam room, in a concert and other many places like these. In a way, we need cell phone, but we don't need it in some places. You could see that the wider and wider use of cell phones brings us much disturbances, actually, cell phones are unwelcome in the places where absolute silence is needed. The cell phone jammer could effectively block cell phone signal in a certain distance, so all cell phones in a certain place will be out of service. That is why cell phone jammer becomes more and more popular that c! an! > be seen in all kinds of locations where cell phones are unwanted. When you turn on a cell phone jammer, all cell phones of that certain area cannot send or receive any signal from cell phone base station. > >> From above we have known that the cell phone jammer could save us from noise trouble. Now the next question is, how to select a cell phone blocker (http://www.skybuying.com/)? Before you buy a cell phone jammer, there are two main aspects that you should take into consideration. These will affect if you could get exact what you want. Firstly, how much is your budget. We must say, your budget depends on your personal requirements. You may need to pay more if you want to buy a cell phone jammer kit with additional functions and wide jamming capacity. But if you just need an ordinary one for daily use, a cheap one is suitable for you, which may cost you only tens of dollars. The common used cell phone jammer kit can simply block the signal and it cost less than the other kinds like high power cell phone jammer and remote control cell phone jammer. Second, before you buy a cell phone jammer, you must fingure out the frequency of the device and the frequency of cell phone yo! u ! > want to block. In USA and Canada, the frequencies are between 850MHz to 1900MHz. With above suggestions, if you are also in need of a cell phone jammer kit, please take a look at our product list. > > To buy a good quality cell phone jammer in low price, pleace come to our cell phone jammer world. Our company provides the best cell phone jammers online sales. Our cell phone jammer products are in excellent quality and reasonable price. All kinds of cell phone jammer kit are available in our website, like portable handheld cell phone jammer kit, high power indoor/outdoor cell phone jammer kit, remote control cell phone jammer kit, professional long range cell phone jammer kit, car cell phone jammer kit, etc. Beside the cell phone jammer kit, we also provide other kind of jammer products, such as GPS jammer, WIFI jammer, Audio jammer, RF jammer, UHF/VHF jammer and so on. We are sure that you culd find the right cell phone signal jammer (http://www.skybuying.com/index.php) here to meet your request. > > You could browse our website for general information, you could also leave us message if you have any question. If you are interested in our product, you could select whatever you want and buy it online. Once we received the order with payment, we will send out the product in two days, it will arrive at your hands in another 3-5 days. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460565#460565 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:42:20 AM PST US
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Subject: Re: Spammer
    A little research goes a long way, and since I am more familiar with the FCC than most, I'll add a comment there as well. 1. If you look at their web site and snoop around, you'll see their phone number has a country code of 0086. China. There is nothing that can be done to prevent advertising of such items from another country. Waste of time losing sleep over it. 2. Yes, there are FCC regulations that prevent the use of cell phone jammers in this country. In fact the FCC regulations cover a broad spectrum (pun intended) of problems. For example, my neighbors electric fence interfering with my licensed ham radio station is illegal under FCC regs. But....... How likely is it that they will do anything about it? Take a guess. 3. The FCC (due to budgeting constraints) has closed a large number of their field offices, has cut down on the number of teams that enforce regulations by tracking down signals with mobile vans, etc. 4. If you can prove an immediate and known threat to life, then yes.... they will take that seriously and act accordingly... as in some idiot actually employing a GPS jammer at an airport. And yes, GPS jammers and cell phone jammers (most of them anyway) can be tracked very easily.... if you are close enough to receive the actual jamming signal. And lastly let me say that in my humble opinion it is unwise to awaken sleeping giants. Let's take a really close look at FCC regulations and examine the specific ones that deal with the use of transmitters on licensed frequencies, like the ones we use in our airplanes for example. Such radios are required to be "type accepted" (in the United States anyway). Even with ham radio (where you can build your own) there are still rules that define spectral purity, etc., etc. So why am I bringing this up? How many Yak or CJ owners are using radios that came with the airplane? How many (if any) of these radios do you think were type accepted by the FCC ? Never ask the Govt. a question that you don't already know the answer to. Ever. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:49 AM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Spammer A report to the FCC maybe in order if he is peddling GPS jammer S. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > I noticed that our Jammer/Spammer has invaded a few other Matronic-list forums as well. He is also peddling some GPS jammer junk. Perfect for that "missed approach". > > Craig Payne


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    Time: 08:28:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Helpful electornic
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    You are right. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > > You might try replying to the actual person who sent the email and not the list Doc. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:39 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Helpful electornic > > > So tell me what do cell phone jamming have to do with flying and maintaining Red Star Aircraft? > Bugger off. If I want cell phone silence I will turn it off. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 18, 2016, at 11:02 AM, jamlieleven <jamlieleven@muchomail.com> wrote: >> >> --> <jamlieleven@muchomail.com> >> >> To keep us away of cell phone noise and return the quiet environment to us, it comes a new technology device-cell phone jammer (http://www.skybuying.com/category-177-b0.html). Cell phones bring us convenience in our lives, we could use it to do more and more works. But when people use it at any time in any where, noise problem comes. There are many places we need to keep a quiet enviroment, like in a library, in a church, in a restaurant, in a conference room, in an exam room, in a concert and other many places like these. In a way, we need cell phone, but we don't need it in some places. You could see that the wider and wider use of cell phones brings us much disturbances, actually, cell phones are unwelcome in the places where absolute silence is needed. The cell phone jammer could effectively block cell phone signal in a certain distance, so all cell phones in a certain place will be out of service. That is why cell phone jammer becomes more and more popular that c! > an! >> be seen in all kinds of locations where cell phones are unwanted. When you turn on a cell phone jammer, all cell phones of that certain area cannot send or receive any signal from cell phone base station. >> >>> From above we have known that the cell phone jammer could save us from noise trouble. Now the next question is, how to select a cell phone blocker (http://www.skybuying.com/)? Before you buy a cell phone jammer, there are two main aspects that you should take into consideration. These will affect if you could get exact what you want. Firstly, how much is your budget. We must say, your budget depends on your personal requirements. You may need to pay more if you want to buy a cell phone jammer kit with additional functions and wide jamming capacity. But if you just need an ordinary one for daily use, a cheap one is suitable for you, which may cost you only tens of dollars. The common used cell phone jammer kit can simply block the signal and it cost less than the other kinds like high power cell phone jammer and remote control cell phone jammer. Second, before you buy a cell phone jammer, you must fingure out the frequency of the device and the frequency of cell phone yo! > u ! >> want to block. In USA and Canada, the frequencies are between 850MHz to 1900MHz. With above suggestions, if you are also in need of a cell phone jammer kit, please take a look at our product list. >> >> To buy a good quality cell phone jammer in low price, pleace come to our cell phone jammer world. Our company provides the best cell phone jammers online sales. Our cell phone jammer products are in excellent quality and reasonable price. All kinds of cell phone jammer kit are available in our website, like portable handheld cell phone jammer kit, high power indoor/outdoor cell phone jammer kit, remote control cell phone jammer kit, professional long range cell phone jammer kit, car cell phone jammer kit, etc. Beside the cell phone jammer kit, we also provide other kind of jammer products, such as GPS jammer, WIFI jammer, Audio jammer, RF jammer, UHF/VHF jammer and so on. We are sure that you culd find the right cell phone signal jammer (http://www.skybuying.com/index.php) here to meet your request. >> >> You could browse our website for general information, you could also leave us message if you have any question. If you are interested in our product, you could select whatever you want and buy it online. Once we received the order with payment, we will send out the product in two days, it will arrive at your hands in another 3-5 days. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460565#460565 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:36:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Spammer
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Good points. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > > A little research goes a long way, and since I am more familiar with the FCC than most, I'll add a comment there as well. > > 1. If you look at their web site and snoop around, you'll see their phone number has a country code of 0086. China. There is nothing that can be done to prevent advertising of such items from another country. Waste of time losing sleep over it. > 2. Yes, there are FCC regulations that prevent the use of cell phone jammers in this country. In fact the FCC regulations cover a broad spectrum (pun intended) of problems. For example, my neighbors electric fence interfering with my licensed ham radio station is illegal under FCC regs. But....... How likely is it that they will do anything about it? Take a guess. > 3. The FCC (due to budgeting constraints) has closed a large number of their field offices, has cut down on the number of teams that enforce regulations by tracking down signals with mobile vans, etc. > 4. If you can prove an immediate and known threat to life, then yes.... they will take that seriously and act accordingly... as in some idiot actually employing a GPS jammer at an airport. And yes, GPS jammers and cell phone jammers (most of them anyway) can be tracked very easily.... if you are close enough to receive the actual jamming signal. > > And lastly let me say that in my humble opinion it is unwise to awaken sleeping giants. Let's take a really close look at FCC regulations and examine the specific ones that deal with the use of transmitters on licensed frequencies, like the ones we use in our airplanes for example. Such radios are required to be "type accepted" (in the United States anyway). Even with ham radio (where you can build your own) there are still rules that define spectral purity, etc., etc. So why am I bringing this up? How many Yak or CJ owners are using radios that came with the airplane? How many (if any) of these radios do you think were type accepted by the FCC ? Never ask the Govt. a question that you don't already know the answer to. Ever. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:49 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Spammer > > > A report to the FCC maybe in order if he is peddling GPS jammer S. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I noticed that our Jammer/Spammer has invaded a few other Matronic-list forums as well. He is also peddling some GPS jammer junk. Perfect for that "missed approach". >> >> Craig Payne > > > > > >




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