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0. 10:19 AM - PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2016 Fund Raiser During November! (Matt Dralle)
1. 05:47 AM - Checklist and Housai Engine (Jill Gernetzke)
2. 07:36 AM - Re: Checklist and Housai Engine (Don & Marilyn Andrews)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/31/16 (Michael Li-Paz)
4. 07:51 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/31/16 (Michael Li-Paz)
5. 09:45 AM - Re: Checklist and Housai Engine (Byron Fox)
6. 03:18 PM - CJ Scoop Screen (PS)
7. 05:01 PM - Housi Engine For Sale (Okanogan Lew)
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| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2016 Fund Raiser During November! |
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| Subject: | Checklist and Housai Engine |
Group,
I have original copies of the Yak Checklist that Bud Harrell put together.
Free, just cover the shipping costs. I also have a Russian copy of the
M-14P Maintenance Manual that I do not need,
Regarding the Housai engine overhauls, our shop is going down that path. We
have been doing major repair - prop strike inspections and hydraulic lock
repairs, for over 10 years on them. We currently have our first full
overhaul in process. There are 2 major problems with overhauling the Housai
in the U.S.:
1. The cylinders are usually high time and show extreme wear. Finding
replacement cylinders is not easy, today. We manufacture the guides,
pistons and rings for the cylinders. We do quite a bit of cylinder overhaul
in our shop.
2. Replacement internal parts, such as gears and shafts are not easily
found. I have built a robust stock of cylinders, accessories and parts for
the M-14P but have not done so with the Housai because there is this good
guy in Omak, WA that takes care of us.
We now make 3 gaskets for the Housai - the nosecase sealplate gasket, the
front and rear diffuser plate gaskets. Die charges to manufacture one
gasket run $150 to $250 on average.
I had a customer call for pricing a Housai overhaul and I told him a minimum
of $25K. The parts count on a Housai is much less, but the amount of work
is about the same as an M-14P. (There are almost 50% more parts in an M-14P
than an R-680.) Then, he thought about installing an M-14P. Once, you begin
to add a new prop, exhaust, cowl louver modification, hoses, etc. the price
tag goes high. The conversation ended with him saying he was going to put
his CJ on the market. I did not want to hear that. Once there is a
perceived hardship in the marketplace, it affects the value of the aircraft
for everyone.
The days of the $8,500 new M-14P are gone. The days of the $12,000,
$15,000, $20,000, $25,000, $30,000 new M-14 are long gone. There is still
that rare back-of-the-hangar gathering dust deal that pops up on a rare
occasion. I had an overseas customer get a quote from Motorstar for a new
M-14P and he was quoted $67K FOB Romania.....I don't know if that was Euros
of USD, but that price will blow your socks off. Perhaps, George or Cliff
would like to give an update on what is happening with Motorstar, today.
Last October, I received this communication from Aerostar: "The company
internal decision related to IAK 52 is to stop the production of the new
aircraft and new spare parts." . M-14P, Inc. manufactures a lot of parts
but I have been motivated to work within our small industry to support one
another and begin a dialogue of what parts are going to become scarce, what
each of us is already manufacturing and how to work cooperatively to produce
the needed parts to keep cost to our customers down.
A couple of weeks ago, I took a rudder cable bracket to a machine shop to
ask them to give me an estimate to make the part. I was quoted 2 days. The
other challenge in the Yak and CJ world is that we are a very niche market.
Machine shops like big runs of parts....not 1 or 10 or 20.....but I don't
want a large quantity of parts mouldering on our shelves, either. It is
truly a balancing act to keep you all in the air. We work very hard at
that.
>From my perspective, we are transitioning from the days of fire sale prices
- sometime obscenely cheap - for our aircraft to an age of becoming limited
edition, unique aircraft. It is not only vendors that need to work
together, but also owners as a group to make owning these aircraft viable
and desireable.
....Adding MMO once in a while will help! ; )
Jill
M-14P, Inc.
www.m-14p.com
Facebook: M-14P, Inc.
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| Subject: | Checklist and Housai Engine |
You did Good.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jill Gernetzke
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:47 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Checklist and Housai Engine
Group,
I have original copies of the Yak Checklist that Bud Harrell put together.
Free, just cover the shipping costs. I also have a Russian copy of the
M-14P Maintenance Manual that I do not need,
Regarding the Housai engine overhauls, our shop is going down that path. We
have been doing major repair - prop strike inspections and hydraulic lock
repairs, for over 10 years on them. We currently have our first full
overhaul in process. There are 2 major problems with overhauling the Housai
in the U.S.:
1. The cylinders are usually high time and show extreme wear. Finding
replacement cylinders is not easy, today. We manufacture the guides,
pistons and rings for the cylinders. We do quite a bit of cylinder overhaul
in our shop.
2. Replacement internal parts, such as gears and shafts are not easily
found. I have built a robust stock of cylinders, accessories and parts for
the M-14P but have not done so with the Housai because there is this good
guy in Omak, WA that takes care of us.
We now make 3 gaskets for the Housai - the nosecase sealplate gasket, the
front and rear diffuser plate gaskets. Die charges to manufacture one
gasket run $150 to $250 on average.
I had a customer call for pricing a Housai overhaul and I told him a minimum
of $25K. The parts count on a Housai is much less, but the amount of work
is about the same as an M-14P. (There are almost 50% more parts in an M-14P
than an R-680.) Then, he thought about installing an M-14P. Once, you begin
to add a new prop, exhaust, cowl louver modification, hoses, etc. the price
tag goes high. The conversation ended with him saying he was going to put
his CJ on the market. I did not want to hear that. Once there is a
perceived hardship in the marketplace, it affects the value of the aircraft
for everyone.
The days of the $8,500 new M-14P are gone. The days of the $12,000,
$15,000, $20,000, $25,000, $30,000 new M-14 are long gone. There is still
that rare back-of-the-hangar gathering dust deal that pops up on a rare
occasion. I had an overseas customer get a quote from Motorstar for a new
M-14P and he was quoted $67K FOB Romania.....I don't know if that was Euros
of USD, but that price will blow your socks off. Perhaps, George or Cliff
would like to give an update on what is happening with Motorstar, today.
Last October, I received this communication from Aerostar: "The company
internal decision related to IAK 52 is to stop the production of the new
aircraft and new spare parts." . M-14P, Inc. manufactures a lot of parts
but I have been motivated to work within our small industry to support one
another and begin a dialogue of what parts are going to become scarce, what
each of us is already manufacturing and how to work cooperatively to produce
the needed parts to keep cost to our customers down.
A couple of weeks ago, I took a rudder cable bracket to a machine shop to
ask them to give me an estimate to make the part. I was quoted 2 days. The
other challenge in the Yak and CJ world is that we are a very niche market.
Machine shops like big runs of parts....not 1 or 10 or 20.....but I don't
want a large quantity of parts mouldering on our shelves, either. It is
truly a balancing act to keep you all in the air. We work very hard at
that.
>From my perspective, we are transitioning from the days of fire sale
>prices
- sometime obscenely cheap - for our aircraft to an age of becoming limited
edition, unique aircraft. It is not only vendors that need to work
together, but also owners as a group to make owning these aircraft viable
and desireable.
....Adding MMO once in a while will help! ; )
Jill
M-14P, Inc.
www.m-14p.com
Facebook: M-14P, Inc.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/31/16 |
I have a Housai engine, 285 HP for sale sitting on a stand in my hangar.
I have taken it off my CJ because of a crack on the back plate of the power s
ection. I have a replacement back plate that can be installed by an overhau
l shop for about $2500 in labor cost. This engine will be good for another 1
000 hours if you take good care of it like I did.
The engine has now about 650 hours on it and was running excellently with go
od cylinders compression and oil/fuel pressures.
If anyone is interested, I'll be able to crate it securely on the vertical s
tand it's on and ship it.
I'm asking for it only $5,300 + whatever the shipping cost.
It certainly worth it even just for spare parts !
Michael "pipes" Li-Paz
(805) 857-4262.
KCMA.
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:03 AM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.co
m> wrote:
>
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> Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
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l&Chapter 16-10-31&Archive=Yak
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> Total Messages Posted Mon 10/31/16: 6
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>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 05:06 AM - Yak-52 Original checklist (Craig Payne)
> 2. 05:16 AM - Re: Yak-52 Original checklist (A. Dennis Savarese)
> 3. 07:18 AM - CJ Help Needed (PS)
> 4. 07:40 AM - Re: Looking for Housai engine (doug sapp)
> 5. 11:50 AM - Re: Looking for Housai engine (Top Ace)
> 6. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: Looking for Housai engine (Roger Kemp)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 05:06:05 AM PST US
> From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Original checklist
>
> Does anyone have an e-copy or scan of the original maintenance checklist
> for the Yak-52?
>
> Craig Payne
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 05:16:14 AM PST US
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 Original checklist
>
> I have an 18 page Yak 52 annual condition inspection guide/checklist which
> I sell.=C2- If interested, please email me off-list.Dennis
>
>
> From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:05 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Original checklist
>
> Does anyone have an e-copy or scan of the original maintenance checklist f
o
> r the Yak-52?
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 07:18:58 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Help Needed
> From: "PS" <psalter@aol.com>
>
>
> I am working this week on my CJ project in California while my manuals sit
on my
> desk in Texas. I am trying to figure out how to install the trim mechanism
> In the tail. I would appreciate a picture or drawing sent to my email addr
ess if
> anyone can help. My address is psalter@aol.com.
>
> Phil
>
> --------
> Phil
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461763#461763
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_678.jpeg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________
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>
>
> Time: 07:40:41 AM PST US
> From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Looking for Housai engine
>
> Be very careful if your searching for a engine in China, there seems to be
> a gent there who is running a scam. He uses many names one of which is
> Spencer.
>
> My last legit quotation (my cost) out of China was about $25K FOB there.
>
> I have no stock at this time.
>
> Doug
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Alan Cockrell <yakpilot@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> My friend is looking for a Housai engine, 285 HP, preferably new, but use
d
>> considered. Please reply to me and I will relay. Thanks.
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 11:50:07 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking for Housai engine
> From: "Top Ace" <topacedave@gmail.com>
>
>
> Is any one still manufacturing the 285 New, or Engine shops !!! able to pe
rform
> complete overhauls only,, David ,
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461773#461773
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 01:40:29 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking for Housai engine
> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>
>
> Check with Rhonda at Monty Barret's engine shop in Tulsa, OK. Airport.
> 918-835-1089
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Top Ace <topacedave@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is any one still manufacturing the 285 New, or Engine shops !!! able to p
erform
> complete overhauls only,, David ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461773#461773
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/31/16 |
I have a Housai engine, 285 HP for sale sitting on a stand in my hangar.
I have taken it off my CJ because of a crack on the back plate of the power s
ection. I have a replacement back plate that can be installed by an overhau
l shop for about $2500 in labor cost. This engine will be good for another 1
000 hours if you take good care of it like I did.
The engine has now about 650 hours on it and was running excellently with go
od cylinders compression and oil/fuel pressures.
If anyone is interested, I'll be able to crate it securely on the vertical s
tand it's on and ship it.
I'm asking for it only $5,300 + whatever the shipping cost.
It certainly worth it even just for spare parts !
Michael "pipes" Li-Paz
(805) 857-4262.
KCMA.
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:03 AM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.co
m> wrote:
>
> *
>
> =========================
========================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =========================
========================
>
> Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=htm
l&Chapter 16-10-31&Archive=Yak
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt
&Chapter 16-10-31&Archive=Yak
>
>
> =========================
======================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> =========================
======================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Yak-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Mon 10/31/16: 6
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 05:06 AM - Yak-52 Original checklist (Craig Payne)
> 2. 05:16 AM - Re: Yak-52 Original checklist (A. Dennis Savarese)
> 3. 07:18 AM - CJ Help Needed (PS)
> 4. 07:40 AM - Re: Looking for Housai engine (doug sapp)
> 5. 11:50 AM - Re: Looking for Housai engine (Top Ace)
> 6. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: Looking for Housai engine (Roger Kemp)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 05:06:05 AM PST US
> From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Original checklist
>
> Does anyone have an e-copy or scan of the original maintenance checklist
> for the Yak-52?
>
> Craig Payne
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 05:16:14 AM PST US
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 Original checklist
>
> I have an 18 page Yak 52 annual condition inspection guide/checklist which
> I sell.=C2- If interested, please email me off-list.Dennis
>
>
> From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:05 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Original checklist
>
> Does anyone have an e-copy or scan of the original maintenance checklist f
o
> r the Yak-52?
>
> Craig Payne
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 07:18:58 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: CJ Help Needed
> From: "PS" <psalter@aol.com>
>
>
> I am working this week on my CJ project in California while my manuals sit
on my
> desk in Texas. I am trying to figure out how to install the trim mechanism
> In the tail. I would appreciate a picture or drawing sent to my email addr
ess if
> anyone can help. My address is psalter@aol.com.
>
> Phil
>
> --------
> Phil
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461763#461763
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_678.jpeg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 07:40:41 AM PST US
> From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Looking for Housai engine
>
> Be very careful if your searching for a engine in China, there seems to be
> a gent there who is running a scam. He uses many names one of which is
> Spencer.
>
> My last legit quotation (my cost) out of China was about $25K FOB there.
>
> I have no stock at this time.
>
> Doug
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Alan Cockrell <yakpilot@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> My friend is looking for a Housai engine, 285 HP, preferably new, but use
d
>> considered. Please reply to me and I will relay. Thanks.
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 11:50:07 AM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Looking for Housai engine
> From: "Top Ace" <topacedave@gmail.com>
>
>
> Is any one still manufacturing the 285 New, or Engine shops !!! able to pe
rform
> complete overhauls only,, David ,
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461773#461773
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 01:40:29 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Looking for Housai engine
> From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
>
>
> Check with Rhonda at Monty Barret's engine shop in Tulsa, OK. Airport.
> 918-835-1089
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Top Ace <topacedave@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is any one still manufacturing the 285 New, or Engine shops !!! able to p
erform
> complete overhauls only,, David ,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=461773#461773
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Checklist and Housai Engine |
Thanks, Jill. All you've said needs to be repeated in an article for the RPA
's Red Alert. Essential information for all of us.
Blitz Fox
415-307-2405
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Don & Marilyn Andrews <dandmaz@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> You did Good.
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jill Gernetzke
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:47 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Checklist and Housai Engine
>
>
> Group,
>
> I have original copies of the Yak Checklist that Bud Harrell put together.
> Free, just cover the shipping costs. I also have a Russian copy of the
> M-14P Maintenance Manual that I do not need,
>
> Regarding the Housai engine overhauls, our shop is going down that path. W
e
> have been doing major repair - prop strike inspections and hydraulic lock
> repairs, for over 10 years on them. We currently have our first full
> overhaul in process. There are 2 major problems with overhauling the Hous
ai
> in the U.S.:
>
> 1. The cylinders are usually high time and show extreme wear. Finding
> replacement cylinders is not easy, today. We manufacture the guides,
> pistons and rings for the cylinders. We do quite a bit of cylinder overha
ul
> in our shop.
>
> 2. Replacement internal parts, such as gears and shafts are not easily
> found. I have built a robust stock of cylinders, accessories and parts fo
r
> the M-14P but have not done so with the Housai because there is this good
> guy in Omak, WA that takes care of us.
>
> We now make 3 gaskets for the Housai - the nosecase sealplate gasket, the
> front and rear diffuser plate gaskets. Die charges to manufacture one
> gasket run $150 to $250 on average.
>
> I had a customer call for pricing a Housai overhaul and I told him a minim
um
> of $25K. The parts count on a Housai is much less, but the amount of work
> is about the same as an M-14P. (There are almost 50% more parts in an M-14
P
> than an R-680.) Then, he thought about installing an M-14P. Once, you beg
in
> to add a new prop, exhaust, cowl louver modification, hoses, etc. the pric
e
> tag goes high. The conversation ended with him saying he was going to put
> his CJ on the market. I did not want to hear that. Once there is a
> perceived hardship in the marketplace, it affects the value of the aircraf
t
> for everyone.
>
> The days of the $8,500 new M-14P are gone. The days of the $12,000,
> $15,000, $20,000, $25,000, $30,000 new M-14 are long gone. There is still
> that rare back-of-the-hangar gathering dust deal that pops up on a rare
> occasion. I had an overseas customer get a quote from Motorstar for a new
> M-14P and he was quoted $67K FOB Romania.....I don't know if that was Euro
s
> of USD, but that price will blow your socks off. Perhaps, George or Cliff
> would like to give an update on what is happening with Motorstar, today.
>
> Last October, I received this communication from Aerostar: "The company
> internal decision related to IAK 52 is to stop the production of the new
> aircraft and new spare parts." . M-14P, Inc. manufactures a lot of parts
> but I have been motivated to work within our small industry to support one
> another and begin a dialogue of what parts are going to become scarce, wha
t
> each of us is already manufacturing and how to work cooperatively to produ
ce
> the needed parts to keep cost to our customers down.
>
> A couple of weeks ago, I took a rudder cable bracket to a machine shop to
> ask them to give me an estimate to make the part. I was quoted 2 days. T
he
> other challenge in the Yak and CJ world is that we are a very niche market
.
> Machine shops like big runs of parts....not 1 or 10 or 20.....but I don't
> want a large quantity of parts mouldering on our shelves, either. It is
> truly a balancing act to keep you all in the air. We work very hard at
> that.
>
>> =46rom my perspective, we are transitioning from the days of fire sale
>> prices
> - sometime obscenely cheap - for our aircraft to an age of becoming limite
d
> edition, unique aircraft. It is not only vendors that need to work
> together, but also owners as a group to make owning these aircraft viable
> and desireable.
>
> ....Adding MMO once in a while will help! ; )
>
> Jill
> M-14P, Inc.
> www.m-14p.com
> Facebook: M-14P, Inc.
>
>
>
>
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My scoop screen/filter(lol) is in bad shape. I am interested in a replacement,
is there a better solution?
Thanks
Phil
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| Subject: | Housi Engine For Sale |
Guys & Jill, I have a complete (mags, carburetor, compressor, generator, wiring
harness & air start system) for sale. The previous owner did not know the history
& their are no logs. I disabled it & the rods & internal gears look OK.
The cylinders measured at limits. The pistons & rings look fine. The valves
are not burnt & the guides were measured with a dial indicator & were with in
limits. I am asking $8500. Please contact me off list. okanoganlew@gmail.com
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