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Fri 01/06/17


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 12:16 PM - Battery replacement (Craig Payne)
     2. 12:33 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Greg Wrobel)
     3. 12:34 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Ernest Martinez)
     4. 12:35 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Ernest Martinez)
     5. 12:35 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Jon Boede)
     6. 12:38 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Patrick Ashura)
     7. 12:42 PM - Re: Battery replacement (jlpartington@reagan.com)
     8. 12:56 PM - Re: Battery replacement (A. Dennis Savarese)
     9. 01:48 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Hank Gibson)
    10. 01:50 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Hank Gibson)
    11. 01:56 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Hank Gibson)
    12. 02:21 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Justin Drafts)
    13. 02:26 PM - Re: Yak52 main air tank needed (Roger Kemp)
    14. 02:47 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Roger Kemp)
    15. 08:51 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Walter Lannon)
    16. 09:16 PM - Re: Battery replacement (doug sapp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:16:09 PM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com>
    Subject: Battery replacement
    After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? Craig Payne


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    Time: 12:33:57 PM PST US
    From: Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Craig, I've been doing it for years. So has 2 others that I know. No spillage, price of about $150 for two 12 volt Gel Cells, Lighter and why has it taken you so long??? On Jan 6, 2017 14:19, "Craig Payne" <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne >


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    Time: 12:34:38 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Craig, I've been using the Oddesey AGM Batteries. Half the weight, half the cost. I used a pair of the PC545 I believe. Ernie On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne >


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    Time: 12:35:24 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Forgot to provide link http://www.odysseybattery.com/extreme_battery_specs.aspx On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote: > Craig, > > I've been using the Oddesey AGM Batteries. Half the weight, half the cost. > > I used a pair of the PC545 I believe. > > Ernie > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > >> After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are >> wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V >> in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? >> >> Craig Payne >> > >


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    Time: 12:35:41 PM PST US
    From: Jon Boede <jonboede@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Yes. Odyssey batteries are an excellent replacement. We use a pair of PC925s in most Soviet battery boxes. A couple of things: 1. You can get a nice cable made at most welding supply places to put the two batteries in series. 2. The batteries can be damaged above 14.7v volts. This means that the maximum for a pair is NOT 29.4v but more like 29v since the internal resistance in the two batteries will never be equal. They will last forever if you adjust your voltage regulator to that. 3. Batterymart.com has the best prices and free shipping that we have found. Sealed batteries are shipped charged via UPS ground. 4. There are a lot of different choices of sizes if you are working them into a box. You don't really need much smash in a CJ/Yak because you're not running an electric starter. Even the PC680 will do you fine. The PC925 is enough to run the starter/generator on an L-29 or Mi-2, so its serious overkill for your plane (although it would run the avionics all day if your generator died). Jon > On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne


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    Time: 12:38:53 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Ashura <pjsales@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Werker WKA12-18NB Sent from my iPad > On Jan 6, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne


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    Time: 12:42:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Battery replacement
    From: jlpartington@reagan.com
    =0AWorks for my CJs. last longer too=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Craig Payne" <yakman285@gmail.com>=0ASent: Friday, 6 January, 2017 2:15pm =0ATo: "yak-list" <yak-list@matronics.com>=0ASubject: Yak-List: Battery rep lacement=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAfter 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, t he ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking ab out the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?=0ACr aig Payne=0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 12:56:19 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Yes, most definitely.=C2- Lots and lots installed that way.Dennis From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:15 PM Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? Craig Payne


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    Time: 01:48:04 PM PST US
    From: Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    2 Odysseys' PC545 in series; love them. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearin g me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============


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    Time: 01:50:07 PM PST US
    From: Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    2 Odysseys' PC545 in series; love them. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearin g me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============


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    Time: 01:56:59 PM PST US
    From: Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    http://www.4wheelparts.com/stores/Store-Info.aspx?sNo=64 Have a store in Jax; can pick up a couple for you and have at Waycross if yo u want to save shipping. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:55 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.ne t> wrote: > > Yes, most definitely. Lots and lots installed that way. > Dennis > > > From: Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> > To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:15 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearin g me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > > ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============


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    Time: 02:21:23 PM PST US
    From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    2-cell plan is working great in my CJ... no issues in 5 years Justin/N280NC On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne >


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    Time: 02:26:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak52 main air tank needed
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Contact Doug Sapp. He has Stainless Steel replacement cylinders. 509.826.4610 Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Nigel Willson <nigel.willson@yakdisplay.com> wrote: > > > Need a replacement main air cylinder for the Yak52. Anyone know of any > supplies? I seem to remember somewhere someone was offering kevlar > replacement tanks as opposed to steel? Any second hand steel ones will need > to be inspected before purchase since the reason for replacement is internal > corrosion (that happens with age). I'm in the UK if that helps, so obviously > some p&p prices to consider also. > > Contacts please? (and prices preferably) > > > Regards, > Nigel Willson > Flying Instructor & Examiner | Airshow Organiser | Display Pilot > Mobile: +44 (0)7809 116676 > Email: nigel.willson@yakdisplay.com > > Web: > http://easyppl.com > http://greatbritishairshows.com > http://yakdisplay.com > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:47:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Yep. Buy mine from Battery Source for about $132 for the pair. Chunk them after two-three years. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne


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    Time: 08:51:35 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Craig; I have settled on the Panasonic LCX1228P, 12V Valve regulated lead acid. 28 Amp/Hrs. Whole lot of overkill but will out last typical Gill or Concor d at least 3 lo 1. Fits nicely in the CJ battery box =93 see pics. In customers CJ (NO battery minder and at least twice inadvertently dischar ged =93switch on) Still strong at sale of A/C after 9 years. On my CJ. going on 6 years, with a battery minder (type recommended by Mark Bitterlich) I have not seen a no-load voltage less than 26.5. With almost constant de-sulphiding and trickle charge I would not be surprised if they lasted 20 years. Walt From: Craig Payne Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 12:15 PM Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? Craig Payne --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 09:16:19 PM PST US
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery replacement
    Craig, This may interest you considering your past penchant for po-boy mods. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Turn-Spare-Pocket-Change-into-DIY-Ba tteries/ Keep us in the loop as to your success. :o) Doug On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: > Craig; > > I have settled on the Panasonic LCX1228P, 12V Valve regulated lead acid. > 28 Amp/Hrs. Whole lot of overkill but will out last typical Gill or > Concord at least 3 lo 1. > Fits nicely in the CJ battery box =93 see pics. > In customers CJ (NO battery minder and at least twice inadvertently > discharged =93switch on) Still strong at sale of A/C after 9 year s. > > On my CJ. going on 6 years, with a battery minder (type recommended by > Mark Bitterlich) I have not seen a no-load voltage less than 26.5. With > almost constant de-sulphiding and trickle charge I would not be surprised > if they lasted 20 years. > > Walt > > *From:* Craig Payne <yakman285@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2017 12:15 PM > *To:* yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* Yak-List: Battery replacement > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12 V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > >




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