---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/06/17: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:16 PM - Battery replacement (Craig Payne) 2. 12:33 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Greg Wrobel) 3. 12:34 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Ernest Martinez) 4. 12:35 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Ernest Martinez) 5. 12:35 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Jon Boede) 6. 12:38 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Patrick Ashura) 7. 12:42 PM - Re: Battery replacement (jlpartington@reagan.com) 8. 12:56 PM - Re: Battery replacement (A. Dennis Savarese) 9. 01:48 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Hank Gibson) 10. 01:50 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Hank Gibson) 11. 01:56 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Hank Gibson) 12. 02:21 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Justin Drafts) 13. 02:26 PM - Re: Yak52 main air tank needed (Roger Kemp) 14. 02:47 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Roger Kemp) 15. 08:51 PM - Re: Battery replacement (Walter Lannon) 16. 09:16 PM - Re: Battery replacement (doug sapp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:09 PM PST US From: Craig Payne Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:57 PM PST US From: Greg Wrobel Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Craig, I've been doing it for years. So has 2 others that I know. No spillage, price of about $150 for two 12 volt Gel Cells, Lighter and why has it taken you so long??? On Jan 6, 2017 14:19, "Craig Payne" wrote: > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:38 PM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Craig, I've been using the Oddesey AGM Batteries. Half the weight, half the cost. I used a pair of the PC545 I believe. Ernie On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:24 PM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Forgot to provide link http://www.odysseybattery.com/extreme_battery_specs.aspx On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ernest Martinez wrote: > Craig, > > I've been using the Oddesey AGM Batteries. Half the weight, half the cost. > > I used a pair of the PC545 I believe. > > Ernie > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > >> After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are >> wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V >> in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? >> >> Craig Payne >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:41 PM PST US From: Jon Boede Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Yes. Odyssey batteries are an excellent replacement. We use a pair of PC925s in most Soviet battery boxes. A couple of things: 1. You can get a nice cable made at most welding supply places to put the two batteries in series. 2. The batteries can be damaged above 14.7v volts. This means that the maximum for a pair is NOT 29.4v but more like 29v since the internal resistance in the two batteries will never be equal. They will last forever if you adjust your voltage regulator to that. 3. Batterymart.com has the best prices and free shipping that we have found. Sealed batteries are shipped charged via UPS ground. 4. There are a lot of different choices of sizes if you are working them into a box. You don't really need much smash in a CJ/Yak because you're not running an electric starter. Even the PC680 will do you fine. The PC925 is enough to run the starter/generator on an L-29 or Mi-2, so its serious overkill for your plane (although it would run the avionics all day if your generator died). Jon > On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:53 PM PST US From: Patrick Ashura Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Werker WKA12-18NB Sent from my iPad > On Jan 6, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:21 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: Battery replacement From: jlpartington@reagan.com =0AWorks for my CJs. last longer too=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Craig Payne" =0ASent: Friday, 6 January, 2017 2:15pm =0ATo: "yak-list" =0ASubject: Yak-List: Battery rep lacement=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAfter 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, t he ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking ab out the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?=0ACr aig Payne=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:19 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Yes, most definitely.=C2- Lots and lots installed that way.Dennis From: Craig Payne To: yak-list Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:15 PM Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:04 PM PST US From: Hank Gibson Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement 2 Odysseys' PC545 in series; love them. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearin g me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:50:07 PM PST US From: Hank Gibson Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement 2 Odysseys' PC545 in series; love them. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearin g me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:59 PM PST US From: Hank Gibson Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement http://www.4wheelparts.com/stores/Store-Info.aspx?sNo=64 Have a store in Jax; can pick up a couple for you and have at Waycross if yo u want to save shipping. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:55 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > Yes, most definitely. Lots and lots installed that way. > Dennis > > > From: Craig Payne > To: yak-list > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:15 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearin g me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > > ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:21:23 PM PST US From: Justin Drafts Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement 2-cell plan is working great in my CJ... no issues in 5 years Justin/N280NC On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:26:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak52 main air tank needed From: Roger Kemp Contact Doug Sapp. He has Stainless Steel replacement cylinders. 509.826.4610 Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Nigel Willson wrote: > > > Need a replacement main air cylinder for the Yak52. Anyone know of any > supplies? I seem to remember somewhere someone was offering kevlar > replacement tanks as opposed to steel? Any second hand steel ones will need > to be inspected before purchase since the reason for replacement is internal > corrosion (that happens with age). I'm in the UK if that helps, so obviously > some p&p prices to consider also. > > Contacts please? (and prices preferably) > > > Regards, > Nigel Willson > Flying Instructor & Examiner | Airshow Organiser | Display Pilot > Mobile: +44 (0)7809 116676 > Email: nigel.willson@yakdisplay.com > > Web: > http://easyppl.com > http://greatbritishairshows.com > http://yakdisplay.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement From: Roger Kemp Yep. Buy mine from Battery Source for about $132 for the pair. Chunk them after two-three years. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:35 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Craig; I have settled on the Panasonic LCX1228P, 12V Valve regulated lead acid. 28 Amp/Hrs. Whole lot of overkill but will out last typical Gill or Concor d at least 3 lo 1. Fits nicely in the CJ battery box =93 see pics. In customers CJ (NO battery minder and at least twice inadvertently dischar ged =93switch on) Still strong at sale of A/C after 9 years. On my CJ. going on 6 years, with a battery minder (type recommended by Mark Bitterlich) I have not seen a no-load voltage less than 26.5. With almost constant de-sulphiding and trickle charge I would not be surprised if they lasted 20 years. Walt From: Craig Payne Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 12:15 PM Subject: Yak-List: Battery replacement After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in seri es. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? Craig Payne --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:19 PM PST US From: doug sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: Battery replacement Craig, This may interest you considering your past penchant for po-boy mods. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Turn-Spare-Pocket-Change-into-DIY-Ba tteries/ Keep us in the loop as to your success. :o) Doug On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Walter Lannon wrote: > Craig; > > I have settled on the Panasonic LCX1228P, 12V Valve regulated lead acid. > 28 Amp/Hrs. Whole lot of overkill but will out last typical Gill or > Concord at least 3 lo 1. > Fits nicely in the CJ battery box =93 see pics. > In customers CJ (NO battery minder and at least twice inadvertently > discharged =93switch on) Still strong at sale of A/C after 9 year s. > > On my CJ. going on 6 years, with a battery minder (type recommended by > Mark Bitterlich) I have not seen a no-load voltage less than 26.5. With > almost constant de-sulphiding and trickle charge I would not be surprised > if they lasted 20 years. > > Walt > > *From:* Craig Payne > *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2017 12:15 PM > *To:* yak-list > *Subject:* Yak-List: Battery replacement > > After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are > wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12 V > in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route? > > Craig Payne > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.