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1. 03:00 AM - Re: M-14P TBO (Ttail)
2. 04:33 AM - Re: Re: M-14P TBO (Chris & Diane Burton)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (Richard Romaine)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (Harv)
5. 08:58 AM - Fw: [flyovers] Fly over in central Texas (Kurt Howerton)
6. 09:20 AM - Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (ChangDriver)
7. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: M-14P TBO (Richard Goode)
8. 10:20 AM - CJ whiskey compass O/H (Mdshelley)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (Walter Lannon)
10. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (Rico Jaeger)
11. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (Walter Lannon)
12. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting (doug sapp)
13. 09:24 PM - Re: Control surfaces fabric recovering (stephen.hayne)
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the Australian Warbirds Maintenance Schedule gives various TBO figures greater
than 500hours depending on engine manufacturer. Would this be of assistance to
you ?
Vedeneyev / Ivchenko M-14P On Condition up to 750 hours
then 500 hours After an overhaul up to 2250 hours.
Motorstar / Aeromotors M-14P/PF On Condition up to 1500 hours
then 500 hours After an overhaul up to 2250 hours.
These copied and pasted from the schedule.
Having said that in the last month or so we have also been given approval to continue
past the TBO based on "On condition" .
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Ttail,
Yes, that could be just what I am looking for. Especially the Aerostar information.
Are you able to email me a copy please?
Many thanks
Chris
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> On 17/02/2017, at 23:59, Ttail <ttail@internode.on.net> wrote:
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> the Australian Warbirds Maintenance Schedule gives various TBO figures greater
than 500hours depending on engine manufacturer. Would this be of assistance
to you ?
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> Vedeneyev / Ivchenko M-14P On Condition up to 750 hours
> then 500 hours After an overhaul up to 2250 hours.
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> Motorstar / Aeromotors M-14P/PF On Condition up to 1500 hours
> then 500 hours After an overhaul up to 2250 hours.
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> These copied and pasted from the schedule.
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> Having said that in the last month or so we have also been given approval to
continue past the TBO based on "On condition" .
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
I ran out of hands trying to grease the buttons in hard to reach spots tha
t were stubborn to take grease...my solution was to temporarily remove the
buttons during greasing.=C2- I=C2-replaced the buttons with 90 degree f
ittings, greased them=C2-and then reinstalled the buttons.=C2- It's not
the clean room version of greasing, but at least=C2-PITA fittings=C2-g
ot new grease.=C2-
The time wasted=C2-swapping fittings involved less=C2-profanity than=C2
-my experience with=C2-the buttons.=C2-=C2-
Warmer ambient=C2-temps also made it easier.
Cheers,Rich
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
Thanks
I'm happy to stick with the Chinese nipple (ahem) if I can find a fitting
Thanks for recommendation re grease
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| Subject: | Fwd: [flyovers] Fly over in central Texas |
Gentlemen -
Is there anyone on the list that could assist Leland?
Please contact him directly.
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Subject: [flyovers] Fly over in central Texas
Leland Matthews (l.matt.matthews@gmail.com) sent a message using the contact
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I have a friend in central Texas around the Austin, Texas area, he is
currently in hospice, and I have no idea how long he has. I met him about 7
years ago when he came to me to get current, he is not a military pilot, but
I do recall in the many things he did during his aviation career was I
believe he conducted primary training for some military guys. I am currently
a 121 pilot with few to no contacts in the GA area of Austin Texas, and
absolutely no experience formation flying.
He asked me a while back if I could fly a missing man formation at his
funeral, I told I could see what I could do.
Would anybody in your organization know of anyone in the Central Texas are
who could make this happen?
I work for a regional carrier and am not even sure I could get the time off
much less fly it my self.
Any information would be greatly appreciated
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
There is no reason to replace any of those communist button grease fittings. All
you need is the correct grease gun. I have been using the Dualco model 700231
with two other nozzles for harder to reach fittings (top of landing gear and
front nose pivot fittings). Adapter 10546 and 10547 will be all you need.
http://www.dualco-inc.com/products.push.html
Aeroshell Grease 6 is suitable
http://www.shell.com/business-customers/aviation/aeroshell/knowledge-centre/the-aeroshell-book/_jcr_content/par/textimage_1433441235.stream/1445042875796/1d024cf49b16b7091e0368a866e9ca6b0ef6f275ac75de066f2004ed372bbef1/aeroshell-book-5greases.pdf
Enjoy!!
Craig
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Of course Motorstar manufactured a large number of engines to fit into Yak
52, but they weren't given any design details or technology, so they can
obviously give 1500 hours "on condition" where the engines are being used
"experimentally" in the USA, but I would doubt whether this would be
formally accepted by an aviation authority unless it was in the context of
an aircraft, being operated in some restricted or experimental category.
But it would certainly be worth a try!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
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Ttail,
Yes, that could be just what I am looking for. Especially the Aerostar
information.
Are you able to email me a copy please?
Many thanks
Chris
Sent from my iPhone, so typo's are bought to you courtesy of Siri.
> On 17/02/2017, at 23:59, Ttail <ttail@internode.on.net> wrote:
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> the Australian Warbirds Maintenance Schedule gives various TBO figures
greater than 500hours depending on engine manufacturer. Would this be of
assistance to you ?
>
> Vedeneyev / Ivchenko M-14P On Condition up to 750 hours then 500 hours
> After an overhaul up to 2250 hours.
>
> Motorstar / Aeromotors M-14P/PF On Condition up to 1500 hours then 500
> hours After an overhaul up to 2250 hours.
>
> These copied and pasted from the schedule.
>
> Having said that in the last month or so we have also been given approval
to continue past the TBO based on "On condition" .
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466325#466325
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| Subject: | CJ whiskey compass O/H |
Anyone had any luck overhauling the wet compass? Mine's working, just can't see
it unless it's in direct sunlight. Figure it needs cleaning and fluid change.
Anyone done it? Nothing in the archives about it.
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
Harv, et al;
I have replaced the Russian/Chinese/Polish grease fittings with Western in
all locations except for two on each MLG.
One of these locations has been identified by Justin Drafts. This one, as
he has noted, is critical. The second is far less obvious. It has been
some
time since I did this so my memory may be suspect but I think this one
required a 45 (or 90?) deg. fitting which would only work in one radial
position
without contacting other structure and could only be detected by hand
swinging the gear with the doors off.
I concluded this could become a problem at a future fitting replacement
without realizing the position was critical and decided to remain stock.
Since I have the original Chinese grease gun it is not a problem. Compared
to the western standard it is far more time consuming but, IMHO, much more
reliable.
Will try to get a photo of that location and post it.
Chang Driver has given a recommendation for Aeroshell Grease 6 which is
probably acceptable for most general applications but is NOT recommended for
wheel bearings. Check out the link he included to the Aeroshell website.
Since I get involved with CJ prop. overhaul on occasion I would not use
Grease 6 there as well. Aeroshell Grease 5 is my recommendation for
everything on the aircraft.
If you can find a Russian, Chinese or Polish grease gun buy one. Much
better than the push type also recommended. Get on to Doug Sapp's case and
tell him to import some.
Cheers;
Walt
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From: Harv
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 7:49 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
Thanks
I'm happy to stick with the Chinese nipple (ahem) if I can find a fitting
Thanks for recommendation re grease
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
Been a long week....just the title of this thread is getting me all hot & b
othered.
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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com> on behalf of Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:47:24 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
Harv, et al;
I have replaced the Russian/Chinese/Polish grease fittings with Western in
all locations except for two on each MLG.
One of these locations has been identified by Justin Drafts. This one, as
he has noted, is critical. The second is far less obvious. It has been
some
time since I did this so my memory may be suspect but I think this one
required a 45 (or 90?) deg. fitting which would only work in one radial
position
without contacting other structure and could only be detected by hand
swinging the gear with the doors off.
I concluded this could become a problem at a future fitting replacement
without realizing the position was critical and decided to remain stock.
Since I have the original Chinese grease gun it is not a problem. Compare
d
to the western standard it is far more time consuming but, IMHO, much more
reliable.
Will try to get a photo of that location and post it.
Chang Driver has given a recommendation for Aeroshell Grease 6 which is
probably acceptable for most general applications but is NOT recommended fo
r
wheel bearings. Check out the link he included to the Aeroshell website.
Since I get involved with CJ prop. overhaul on occasion I would not use
Grease 6 there as well. Aeroshell Grease 5 is my recommendation for
everything on the aircraft.
If you can find a Russian, Chinese or Polish grease gun buy one. Much
better than the push type also recommended. Get on to Doug Sapp's case an
d
tell him to import some.
Cheers;
Walt
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From: Harv
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 7:49 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
Thanks
I'm happy to stick with the Chinese nipple (ahem) if I can find a fitting
Thanks for recommendation re grease
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
More;
Only two (each MLG) not replaced with Western standard.
First photo is the one referenced by Justin. Second location has the
potential for interference in the up cycle if replaced with Western.
May be OK and I can't remember for sure what the actual problem was but
decided better safe than sorry.
Walt
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From: Walter Lannon
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
Harv, et al;
I have replaced the Russian/Chinese/Polish grease fittings with Western in
all locations except for two on each MLG.
One of these locations has been identified by Justin Drafts. This one, as
he has noted, is critical. The second is far less obvious. It has been
some
time since I did this so my memory may be suspect but I think this one
required a 45 (or 90?) deg. fitting which would only work in one radial
position
without contacting other structure and could only be detected by hand
swinging the gear with the doors off.
I concluded this could become a problem at a future fitting replacement
without realizing the position was critical and decided to remain stock.
Since I have the original Chinese grease gun it is not a problem. Compared
to the western standard it is far more time consuming but, IMHO, much more
reliable.
Will try to get a photo of that location and post it.
Chang Driver has given a recommendation for Aeroshell Grease 6 which is
probably acceptable for most general applications but is NOT recommended for
wheel bearings. Check out the link he included to the Aeroshell website.
Since I get involved with CJ prop. overhaul on occasion I would not use
Grease 6 there as well. Aeroshell Grease 5 is my recommendation for
everything on the aircraft.
If you can find a Russian, Chinese or Polish grease gun buy one. Much
better than the push type also recommended. Get on to Doug Sapp's case and
tell him to import some.
Cheers;
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Harv
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 7:49 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
Thanks
I'm happy to stick with the Chinese nipple (ahem) if I can find a fitting
Thanks for recommendation re grease
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| Subject: | Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting |
Another problem point is on the nose gear bracket, if the threaded (grip
length) of the zerk is to long it will bind up the nose gear brass bushing,
making steering difficult or impossible.
Doug
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
> More;
>
> Only two (each MLG) not replaced with Western standard.
> First photo is the one referenced by Justin. Second location has the
> potential for interference in the up cycle if replaced with Western.
> May be OK and I can't remember for sure what the actual problem was but
> decided better safe than sorry.
>
> Walt
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Walter Lannon
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:47 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
>
>
> Harv, et al;
>
> I have replaced the Russian/Chinese/Polish grease fittings with Western in
> all locations except for two on each MLG.
> One of these locations has been identified by Justin Drafts. This one, as
> he has noted, is critical. The second is far less obvious. It has been
> some
> time since I did this so my memory may be suspect but I think this one
> required a 45 (or 90?) deg. fitting which would only work in one radial
> position
> without contacting other structure and could only be detected by hand
> swinging the gear with the doors off.
> I concluded this could become a problem at a future fitting replacement
> without realizing the position was critical and decided to remain stock.
>
> Since I have the original Chinese grease gun it is not a problem.
> Compared
> to the western standard it is far more time consuming but, IMHO, much more
> reliable.
>
> Will try to get a photo of that location and post it.
>
> Chang Driver has given a recommendation for Aeroshell Grease 6 which is
> probably acceptable for most general applications but is NOT recommended
> for
> wheel bearings. Check out the link he included to the Aeroshell website.
> Since I get involved with CJ prop. overhaul on occasion I would not use
> Grease 6 there as well. Aeroshell Grease 5 is my recommendation for
> everything on the aircraft.
>
> If you can find a Russian, Chinese or Polish grease gun buy one. Much
> better than the push type also recommended. Get on to Doug Sapp's case
> and
> tell him to import some.
>
> Cheers;
> Walt
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Harv
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 7:49 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Cj6 grease nipple fitting
>
>
> Thanks
>
> I'm happy to stick with the Chinese nipple (ahem) if I can find a fitting
>
> Thanks for recommendation re grease
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466349#466349
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| Subject: | Re: Control surfaces fabric recovering |
I just finished STITS from Aircraft Spruce, and it cost about $750 including the
PolyTone "paint" (which was almost the most expensive part). Here is what I
initially bought:
Qty Ship B/O Item Unit Price Total Price
2 2 0 09-18400 RIB STITCH NEEDLE 4" STRAIGHT # 504 1.450 2.90
1 1 0 09-02450 STITS PINKED P103 2" TAPE 25YD 23.200 23.20
2 2 0 09-03206 3" CURVED NEEDLE 1.120 2.24
2 2 0 09-03204 2" CURVED NEEDLE 0.950 1.90
2 2 0 09-18300 RIB STITCH NEEDLE 2-1/2" CURVD 1.100 2.20
2 2 0 09-18500 RIB STITCH NEEDLE 10" # 504 3.450 6.90
1 1 0 09-18710 RIB STITCH NEEDLE 6" CURVED 2.650 2.65
1 1 0 09-18705 RIB STITCH NEEDLE 3" CURVED 1.200 1.20
1 1 0 09-02900 POLY-FIBER P-103 3" TAPE 25YD 27.800 27.80
1 1 0 09-03600 STITS REINFORCING TAPE 3/8 56.600 56.60
1 0 1 09-41300-1 CECONITE RIB LACE CORD D693 RD 45.500 0.00
1 1 0 09-00234 POLY-FIBER COLOR CHART # 50 0.000 0.00
5 5 0 09-01600 POLY-FIBER FABRIC MEDIUM 73" 2.97 OZ 11.950 59.575
2 0 2 09-04850 POLY-FIBER REDUCER RR8500 GAL 48.500 0.00
1 1 0 09-04500 POLY-FIBER POLY-SPRAY GALLON 83.600 83.60
1 1 0 09-04100 POLY-BRUSH QT. TINTED 25.750 25.75
1 1 0 09-05000 POLY-FIBER POLY-TAK CEMENT QT 27.500 27.50
I ran out of Poly-Tak and Ply-Spray and had to borrow some from a friend. Didn't
use ANY of the needles except the straight one. Lots of tape, thread and reducer
left.
I then bought a gallon of the Poly-Tone (clear) and had it tinted locally to match
the Chinese Olive Drab - fairly good match. Didn't try to paint the underside
different. Still have 1/2 gallon of the clear Polytone left, as I only mixed
up a couple quarts of color.
I had never done this before, and it took about 3 weeks of afternoons... I'm fairly
satisfied with the job, but I got progressively better. Next time would
be almost professional. I'm pretty sure it is safe. :)
Attached is a pic of them - didn't get the elevators in there very well.
Hope this helps.
Stephen
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Dr. Stephen C. Hayne, Professor, CIS, Colorado State University
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