---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/16/17: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: unlocks not always locking... (cjpilot710@aol.com) 2. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: unlocks not always locking... (Walter Lannon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:23 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: unlocks not always locking... While I can understand that the gear lights can come on during positive G maneuvers, that has not happened to me - with these exceptions. Low system pressure (at time I had sprung a leak somewhere) and the most Gs I've ever had to pull is 5 gs. (I can get a sloppy loop from cruise with just 2.5 to 3 gs.) While my acro does not go to the extreme end of the envelope, (I do my little routine never pulling more than 4 gs). I never see red lights AS LONG as I have normal system pressure (50 atmos). Jim (Pappy) Goolsby In a message dated 3/15/2017 5:11:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, info@flyingwarbirds.com.au writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: "JL2A" I thought this might devolve into a handle position thread! In the OP I did say that with the handle in UP that the aerobatic G forces pull the gear out enough for the uplock microswitch to turn off. i.e.. I fly with the handle in UP Which is why it was interesting to find that when reverting to the gear handle neutral when flying method that the uplocks were occasionally not locking, even though microswitches were clicking. Regarding the presence of uplocks, not being an engineering expert, I figured they put the uplocks were there so there was less stress on the actuator and retraction assembly while pulling up to 6 Gs? Seems to make sense in a mechanical-sympathy sort of way. Thanks Jim, I will give them a good clean and see what happens. PS we also checked the gear doors for contact etc. nothing has shifted Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467358#467358 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:41 AM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: unlocks not always locking... The actual reason for gear uplocks is to avoid the scenario of the P51 I described earlier. The original CJ manual does not specify a gear or flap limit but rather a maximum circuit speed of 170 Kph (92 Kts). In the CJ's earliest days in North America a group called Yakkity Yaks determined that the gear down/flap down military limits for the NA T6 of 130/109 Kts. would sufffice for the CJ as well. Any CJ owner who purchased my placard set knows that I thought those numbers too high and always recommended 110/90 Kts. In later years the Civil Aviation Authority in the UK came up with a set of numbers which were almost identical. Walt -----Original Message----- From: JL2A Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:54 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: unlocks not always locking... > If you keep pulling 6 Gs in a CJ, your wings are going to be in the UP > position. I was talking from a design point of view. The airframe was designed and rated to 6Gs, so the gear system must be stress tested to handle this over the design life too. We have a 4G soft limit for all our aeros. Don't really see the need for more. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467372#467372 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.