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1. 07:49 AM - Wingtip Strobes Question (JON)
2. 08:21 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_PTT_hat_=F0=9F=8E=A9? (JON)
3. 09:02 AM - Re: Wingtip Strobes Question (Robin Hou)
4. 09:02 AM - Re: Wingtip Strobes Question (Anthony Savarese)
5. 09:20 AM - Manuals for Housai engine... (Cliff Coy)
6. 11:34 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment (Walter Lannon)
7. 02:28 PM - 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Jon Blake)
8. 02:53 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Ttail)
9. 03:10 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Byron Fox)
10. 03:11 PM - [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment (Ttail)
11. 03:30 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
12. 04:41 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Larry Pine)
13. 06:53 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Jon Blake)
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Subject: | Wingtip Strobes Question |
My right wingtip strobe light has failed. The left works fine and the right
has that "burned out" appearance with black shading inside. See attached.
I bought a new Whelen brand strobe thinking it would be a direct replacemen
t... I was wrong. The base of the Whelen is not pliable and is too large to
fit inside the glass globe. The old light has a very pliable silicone base
and doesn't have the loop in the glass like the whelen light. My airplane
was imported by Yakkity Yaks in 1995 and I'm presuming they used similar if
not exact same parts on most of their imports. So here's the question, doe
s anyone have a clue as to the brand name of these tip strobes? =C2-Also
any suggestions on repair or replacement are welcome.
Thanks in advance Red Stars.
JB
Jon Blake
jblake207@comcast.net
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Subject: | Re: ?utf-8?Q?Re:_Yak-List:_Re:_PTT_hat_=F0=9F=8E=A9? |
Or purchase one=C2-from Doug Sapp to help keep him in the parts bidness..
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From: "Russ" <duncan1574@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 6:10:18 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: PTT hat =F0=9F=8E=A9
Find your local amateur radio supply house and show them one.
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Subject: | Re: Wingtip Strobes Question |
I think it is an Aeroflash unit:
http://www.skygeek.com/073-0270.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_content=073-0270&utm_campaign=froogle&gclid=CjwKEAjw2qzHBRChloWxgoXDpyASJAB01Io0-hY0jqahzz84mT3kvOIeK4O11kbb8k6yaGg8JBLnJRoClHrw_wcB
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:45 AM, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
> My right wingtip strobe light has failed. The left works fine and the
> right has that "burned out" appearance with black shading inside. See
> attached. I bought a new Whelen brand strobe thinking it would be a direct
> replacement... I was wrong. The base of the Whelen is not pliable and is
> too large to fit inside the glass globe. The old light has a very pliable
> silicone base and doesn't have the loop in the glass like the whelen light.
> My airplane was imported by Yakkity Yaks in 1995 and I'm presuming they
> used similar if not exact same parts on most of their imports. So here's
> the question, does anyone have a clue as to the brand name of these tip
> strobes? Also any suggestions on repair or replacement are welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance Red Stars.
>
> JB
>
> Jon Blake
> jblake207@comcast.net
>
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Subject: | Re: Wingtip Strobes Question |
Could it be an Aeroflash strobe light?
Dennis
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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:45 AM, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> My right wingtip strobe light has failed. The left works fine and the righ
t has that "burned out" appearance with black shading inside. See attached. I
bought a new Whelen brand strobe thinking it would be a direct replacement.
.. I was wrong. The base of the Whelen is not pliable and is too large to fi
t inside the glass globe. The old light has a very pliable silicone base and
doesn't have the loop in the glass like the whelen light. My airplane was i
mported by Yakkity Yaks in 1995 and I'm presuming they used similar if not e
xact same parts on most of their imports. So here's the question, does anyon
e have a clue as to the brand name of these tip strobes? Also any suggestio
ns on repair or replacement are welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance Red Stars.
>
> JB
>
> Jon Blake
> jblake207@comcast.net
>
>
> <Wing Strobe2.jpg>
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Subject: | Manuals for Housai engine... |
Good afternoon all,
Would anyone have a .pdf of the engine manuals, in English, for this engine?
We have an a FAA type who'd like to see them before issuing an
airworthiness certificate.
Thanks and best regards,
Cliff
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Border Air Ltd.
629 Airport Rd.
Swanton, VT 05488
802-868-2822 TEL
802-868-4465 FAX
Skype: Cliff.Coy
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Subject: | Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment |
Hi Looigi;
Thanks for the photos. Proves, again, that one should never make
assumptions in this business. The Yak 52 system is quite different than the
CJ and likely much more modern.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Looigi
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 10:25 PM
Subject: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment
Hi Guys,
Getting rid of the deviation is easy if the whole card needs to be adjusted,
like Walt says, just turn the flux valve to suit.
Does anyone know how to adjust the KM-8 Correction Mechanism that hides
behind the back seat on the yak-52? It looks like this.....
https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=135933&d=1457048380
I am guessing that by looking at it the adjusting know makes the same
correction as turning the flux valve does, but has anyone else played with
it?
Cheers
Chris
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Subject: | 9 cylinder egt/cht systems |
Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a year or two
ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, and maybe
more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB
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Subject: | Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems |
http://www.aerospacelogic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=88
Fitted one of these. Reasonably straight forward. Operated flawlessly for 2 years.
Recently one thermocouple went Kaput .... waiting on a spare.
Company takes a while to respond to requests
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Subject: | Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems |
I installed the CHT system, Jon. It's made by a Canadian outfit, the name
of which I can't remember at the moment. I can get it for you when next in
my hangar. They had some difficulty getting it through US customs, but
after some delay the system arrived. Truth be told I'm not wild about it. A
couple of the leads which affix below the spark plugs have failed. Also, I
question the accuracy. Seems to read a bit low when compared to the
remaining Chinese sensor in the backseat.
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a year
> or two ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also,
> and maybe more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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Subject: | Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment |
This from a YAK40 manual might be of use:
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468267#468267
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/yak40simdg_366.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Gyro compass adjustment |
Yes, I have had experience swinging old compass systems that used a Flux "Valve",
or Flux Gate Transmitter, or whatever you want to call them. We did it by
first checking the actual valve externally, then doing a visual site transfer
(surveying scopes) into the airplane and then compensating for single and two
cycle errors. Each system is unique to some degree and sometimes some pretty
elaborate equipment was used.
That said, the OLD way still works, and that is putting the airplane on a rose
and simply adjusting the compensating magnets while moving the aircraft around
the rose to align it with the cardinal points. Moving a flux valve in an airplane
... as in simply moving it directionally to "adjust for deviation" changes
the compensation of the valve. Meaning you will get it to read properly in
one direction only.
I do not know the system in the 52 at all. But if it uses a REMOTE flux valve,
then I would never move that valve in the mount to do a darn thing. Instead
I would find the compensation adjustment points and adjust those instead, pretty
much like you would any other compass. If you move the valve AT ALL, then
you must re-compensate it, because it the airplanes single and dual cycle errors,
induced by electrical fields and also fields around steel parts, etc.,etc.,
will change.
An interesting tid bit. I have seen compass roses at small airports all over the
place. They are probably inaccurate. We re-do the rose every 2 years. A
compass rose that was painted back in the day is no longer accurate. In 40 years,
the one here has shifted over two degrees, but that being said, it all depends
on how accurate you need to get. We had to be better than +/- one degree
for the flux valve systems. More than that for just a simple ole panel mount
job like you normally see in general aviation aircraft.
So, again ... not knowing the 52, I am worried that it mightt be the "hard kind"
and I would not turn anything until I found a manual, or an expert. It could
be dead easy. It also could be one that you turn the flux valve and it never
works correctly again. :-(
Mark
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on behalf of Walter Lannon [wlannon@shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment
Hi Mark;
Damned if I know; That is way beyond my pay grade but I'm sure you could
help.
Yes; looking for the flux gate; transmitter; or whatever it may be called.
But in my 1965 CJ it is still a magnetic compass (though a very large one),
with a card and a viewing window to facilitate calibration. Entirely
possible I have made a grave error by assuming the Yak 52 uses the same
unit, a mistake I make too often.
The calibrated North/South line is usually included in the compass rose
which is found somewhere on most airport tarmacs. Can't say I have ever
seen one without that line, but then--------.
Don't know about "art form" but often the compass swing can be one hell of a
lot of work and, in Canada, is a requirement for every Annual Inspection and
Certification that I do.
Cheers;
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Interesting Walt.
Are you trying to remove single or two cycle error?
Mark Bitterlich.
p.s. Swinging a compass is an art form. "First thing is to find the
compass". I think you might be talking about a flux valve. I have not
worked on this system in a YAK-52 and if it is what I think you are talking
about, I have no desire to, but I would like to know the facts regarding
this particular system. Can you educate me please? For what it is worth,
my input is that first you have to find a calibrated north south line.
Good luck with that.
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[owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Walter Lannon
[wlannon@shaw.ca]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 1:36 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment
The gyrosyn compass is a gyro stabilized magnetic compass and is not tied to
the ADF. First thing is find the compass. Most likely in the aft
fuselage - remote from
electrical interference as much as possible.
It has a corrector unit like the standby compass and is swung in the same
manner but has an additional feature. Once the standard swing is complete
calculate the average algebraic sum of the corrections (+ or -), unlock and
rotate the entire compass in the correct direction to remove that error.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Looigi
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 4:57 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment
Hi All,
We have just imported a Yak-52 into New Zealand from Italy. He is almost
ready for flight, but one job that remains is to do a compass swing.
Our plane has had the ADF system removed. I am not sure if that affects
things; I know the systems are sort of tied together.
The direct reading compasses are easy, but does anyone have any data on how
to adjust the gyro compass? I have flicked the switch on the control panel
to "South" and set the lattitude, but I am thinking I will need to fiddle
with it to sort the deviation.
Many thanks
Chris
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Subject: | Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems |
I have bought stuff from this company as well. This is a very small garage c
ompany and due to their size customer service suffers.
Larry
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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I installed the CHT system, Jon. It's made by a Canadian outfit, the name o
f which I can't remember at the moment. I can get it for you when next in my
hangar. They had some difficulty getting it through US customs, but after s
ome delay the system arrived. Truth be told I'm not wild about it. A couple o
f the leads which affix below the spark plugs have failed. Also, I question t
he accuracy. Seems to read a bit low when compared to the remaining Chinese s
ensor in the backseat.
>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a year
or two ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, a
nd maybe more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB
>>
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> 80 Milland Drive
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Subject: | Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems |
Thanks Blitz. I'm thinking about the edm 700-9 but it's expensive. Maybe I c
ould sell some blood... Nope, tainted with mad cow and crown. Saber
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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 18:08, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I installed the CHT system, Jon. It's made by a Canadian outfit, the name o
f which I can't remember at the moment. I can get it for you when next in my
hangar. They had some difficulty getting it through US customs, but after s
ome delay the system arrived. Truth be told I'm not wild about it. A couple o
f the leads which affix below the spark plugs have failed. Also, I question t
he accuracy. Seems to read a bit low when compared to the remaining Chinese s
ensor in the backseat.
>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a year
or two ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, a
nd maybe more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB
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