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1. 04:38 AM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Justin Drafts)
2. 05:08 AM - OSH bound? (cjpilot710@aol.com)
3. 06:23 AM - XP-82 Twin Mustang Project Tour (JON)
4. 08:23 AM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Bill Geipel)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Robert Graves)
6. 08:52 AM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Ernest Martinez)
7. 08:57 AM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Ernest Martinez)
8. 09:21 AM - Re: Hi Oil temp (JON)
9. 01:41 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (William Geipel)
10. 01:50 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Ernest Martinez)
11. 01:51 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Ernest Martinez)
12. 02:00 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Greg Wrobel)
13. 02:26 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Frank Stelwagon)
14. 02:34 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Ernest Martinez)
15. 05:02 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (William Geipel)
16. 05:04 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (William Geipel)
17. 05:51 PM - Re: Hi Oil temp (Ernest Martinez)
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Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't know
that, thanks-
Justin Drafts, N280NC
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but
> it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil I
N.
>
> Walt
>
> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
>
> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little h
igher.
> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil te
mp
> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the n
ew
> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
> multigrade any suggestions
>
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If you need a room at OSH, I still have an AIR CONDITION dorm to share
with a fellow RPA formation pilot, that I am not going to be able to use. Its
paid for already, soooo all or part thereof will be considered Its an
easy bus ride to the main gate ALL day from early morning to late. Believe me
having a car is a hassle. Nice places to eat near by and the school
provides great meals! Plus there is a great EAA hangout bar a short walk away.
Leaving today to fly the B-24 for Collings folks until Aug 8.
OFF LIST; _cjpilot710@aol.com_ (mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com) cell phone
only 386-559-1942
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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| Subject: | XP-82 Twin Mustang Project Tour |
Fellow Warbird Enthusiasts,
=C2-
I am very excited about the RPA's SE Region=99s planned fly out event
in Statesboro, GA (KTBR) on 19 AUGUST Wayne Altman arranged an e
xceptionally interesting tour of a unique Warbird restoration facility in D
ouglas, GA including a meet and greet with renowned vintage aircraft restor
er Tom Reilly and a walk around tour of his latest restoration project an X
P-82 (see attached).
=C2-
The op plan is to brief and have the first flight in the air by 1000 with a
formation training hop over to Douglas, GA (DQH) for a tour of the XP-82 r
estoration facility, then formation training hop back to TBR for a quick lu
nch then back to flying. We=99re gonna try to get in maybe three flig
hts and wrap up about 1700. There will be plenty of water and soda to drink
during the day as well as a $0.50 discount on fuel. If anyone wants to com
e in the day before or stay overnight Saturday Wayne blocked rooms at the n
earby Holiday Inn express. Ask for the Red Star Pilot=99s discount wh
en you call 912-489-4545 to make your reservation.
=C2-
Here=99s a link to the backstory of the XP-82 Twin Mustang restoratio
n project: http://airwingmedia.com/news/2013/north-american-xp-82-twin-must
ang-restoration/
=C2-
If you plan to attend, let Wayne know at waltman51@comcast.net .
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Stay safe my friends,
Saber
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so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't know
that, thanks-
> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you readi
ng oil IN or oil OUT?
>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but i
t's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil I
N.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
>>
>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed a
round 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little highe
r. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil te
mp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the n
ew plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips multig
rade any suggestions
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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I always use in
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't kno
w that, thanks-
>> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you read
ing oil IN or oil OUT?
>>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but
it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil I
N.
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed a
round 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little highe
r. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil te
mp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the n
ew plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips multig
rade any suggestions
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Generall Speaking they're relative. From a trend monitoring standpoint, OUT
will give you a more direct indication engine performance.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:32 AM Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't kno
w
> that, thanks-
> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
>> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but
>> it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil
>> IN.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
>>
>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
>> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little
higher.
>> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil t
emp
>> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the
new
>> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
>> multigrade any suggestions
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN and
OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log that
spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from the mean
spread between the 2 temps.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net> wrote:
> I always use in
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't kno
w
> that, thanks-
> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
>> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but
>> it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil
>> IN.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
>>
>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
>> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little
higher.
>> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil t
emp
>> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the
new
>> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
>> multigrade any suggestions
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Yeah, what he said... see attached.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN and O
UT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log that sprea
d can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from the mean spre
ad between the 2 temps.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves < flibob@att.net > wrote:
I always use in
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel < l129bs@gmail.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts < draftsjust417@gmail.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't know
that, thanks-
Justin Drafts, N280NC
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon < wlannon@shaw.ca > wrote:
<blockquote>
The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you reading
oil IN or oil OUT?
Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but it
's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB.=C2- Rear gauge is Oi
l IN.
Walt
----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed aro
und 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little higher
. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil te
mp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the
new plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips mult
igrade any suggestions
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new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>
> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN
and OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log
that spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from
the mean spread between the 2 temps.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net
<mailto:flibob@att.net>> wrote:
> I always use in
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
know that, thanks-
> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>> wrote:
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>>
>
> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
reading oil IN or oil OUT?
> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system
but it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is
Oil IN.
>
> Walt
>
> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
<mailto:flibob@att.net>>
>
> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much
stayed around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a
little higher. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to
to 120 the oil temp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the
cylinder head that low the new plane is using shell 50W weight and my
old plane is using Phillips multigrade any suggestions
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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You got a CJ??? Good man.
IN to engine from Oil Cooler
OUT from engine to Oil cooler.
IN is cooler than OUT.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
> Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> *To: *yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN and
> OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log that
> spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from the me
an
> spread between the 2 temps.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I always use in
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote
:
>>
>> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
>> know that, thanks-
>> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
>>> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system bu
t
>>> it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil
>>> IN.
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
>>> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little
higher.
>>> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil
temp
>>> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the
new
>>> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
>>> multigrade any suggestions
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
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No Chip detector from factory.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote
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> You got a CJ??? Good man.
>
> IN to engine from Oil Cooler
> OUT from engine to Oil cooler.
>
> IN is cooler than OUT.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
>> Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
>> *To: *yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
>> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN an
d
>> OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log that
>> spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from the m
ean
>> spread between the 2 temps.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I always use in
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
>>> know that, thanks-
>>> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
>>>> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>>>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system
>>>> but it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>>>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oi
l
>>>> IN.
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much staye
d
>>>> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a littl
e higher.
>>>> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil
temp
>>>> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low th
e new
>>>> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
>>>> multigrade any suggestions
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Where you located with your CJ??
On Jul 12, 2017 15:44, "William Geipel" <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
> new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
> Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> *To: *yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN and
> OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log that
> spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from the me
an
> spread between the 2 temps.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I always use in
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote
:
>>
>> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
>> know that, thanks-
>> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
>>> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system bu
t
>>> it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil
>>> IN.
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>
>>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
>>> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little
higher.
>>> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil
temp
>>> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the
new
>>> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
>>> multigrade any suggestions
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Actually, IN is from the tank into the engine OUT is from the engine to
the oil cooler. The cooled oil goes back to the Oil tank. Remember Oil
is the coolant as well as the lubricant.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest
Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
You got a CJ??? Good man.
IN to engine from Oil Cooler
OUT from engine to Oil cooler.
IN is cooler than OUT.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com> > wrote:
new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net
<mailto:jblake207@comcast.net> > wrote:
Yeah, what he said... see attached.
_____
From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com <mailto:erniel29@gmail.com>
>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN
and OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log
that spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from
the mean spread between the 2 temps.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net
<mailto:flibob@att.net> > wrote:
I always use in
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com> > wrote:
so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com> > wrote:
Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
know that, thanks-
Justin Drafts, N280NC
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> > wrote:
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca> >
The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
reading oil IN or oil OUT?
Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but
it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil
IN.
Walt
----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
<mailto:flibob@att.net> >
I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little
higher. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120
the oil temp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head
that low the new plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is
using Phillips multigrade any suggestions
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Ok, I left the tank out of the equation. Bottom line, IN is cooler than OUT
.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Frank Stelwagon <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net
>
wrote:
> Actually, IN is from the tank into the engine OUT is from the engine to
> the oil cooler. The cooled oil goes back to the Oil tank. Remember Oil is
> the coolant as well as the lubricant.
>
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server
@
> matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ernest Martinez
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:47 PM
> *To:* yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
>
> You got a CJ??? Good man.
>
>
> IN to engine from Oil Cooler
>
> OUT from engine to Oil cooler.
>
>
> IN is cooler than OUT.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
>
> Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com>
> *To: *yak-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
>
> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN and
> OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log that
> spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from the me
an
> spread between the 2 temps.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net> wrote:
>
> I always use in
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't kno
w
> that, thanks-
>
> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
> reading oil IN or oil OUT?
> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system but
> it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is Oil I
N.
>
> Walt
>
> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>
>
> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much stayed
> around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a little h
igher.
> If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to to 120 the oil te
mp
> will stay around 70 but I don't like run the cylinder head that low the n
ew
> plane is using shell 50W weight and my old plane is using Phillips
> multigrade any suggestions
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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Gone to the dark side
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 14:48, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No Chip detector from factory.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com
<mailto:erniel29@gmail.com>> wrote:
> You got a CJ??? Good man.
>
> IN to engine from Oil Cooler
> OUT from engine to Oil cooler.
>
> IN is cooler than OUT.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 4:37 PM, William Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com>> wrote:
> new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
> Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net
<mailto:jblake207@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>>
>> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com
<mailto:erniel29@gmail.com>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
>> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN
and OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log
that spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from
the mean spread between the 2 temps.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net
<mailto:flibob@att.net>> wrote:
>> I always use in
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
know that, thanks-
>> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>> wrote:
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>>
>>
>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system
but it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is
Oil IN.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
<mailto:flibob@att.net>>
>>
>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much
stayed around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a
little higher. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to
to 120 the oil temp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the
cylinder head that low the new plane is using shell 50W weight and my
old plane is using Phillips multigrade any suggestions
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
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Westcliffe, Colorado
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 14:57, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Where you located with your CJ??
>
> On Jul 12, 2017 15:44, "William Geipel" <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com>> wrote:
> new to the CJ world. In from/to where, Out/from where to where?
> Where is the chip detector located? Pix?
>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:18, JON <jblake207@comcast.net
<mailto:jblake207@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, what he said... see attached.
>>
>> From: "Ernest Martinez" <erniel29@gmail.com
<mailto:erniel29@gmail.com>>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
>> IMHO, IN doesn't really say much by itself, but the spread between IN
and OUT can tell you a lot. One who is so inclined to monitor and log
that spread can gain a lot of insight when a observing a deviation from
the mean spread between the 2 temps.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM Robert Graves <flibob@att.net
<mailto:flibob@att.net>> wrote:
>> I always use in
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Bill Geipel <l129bs@gmail.com
<mailto:l129bs@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> so do you use In or Out for takeoff oil temp?
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2017, at 20:35, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com
<mailto:draftsjust417@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Btw Walt, very glad to hear about the rear gauge reading IN, I didn't
know that, thanks-
>> Justin Drafts, N280NC
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>> wrote:
<mailto:wlannon@shaw.ca>>
>>
>> The first thing to consider with a CJ oil temp. question is are you
reading oil IN or oil OUT?
>> Since it is your second CJ I'm sure you are familiar with the system
but it's possible the switch is incorrectly wired or installed.
>> Check switch in flight and/or compare with your GIB. Rear gauge is
Oil IN.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> ----Original Message----- From: Robert Graves
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:03 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Hi Oil temp
>>
<mailto:flibob@att.net>>
>>
>> I bought a new CJ. My first airplane oil temp always pretty much
stayed around 50 to 60=C2=B0. On the new plane run 7075 and sometimes a
little higher. If I open the gills and lower the cylinder head down to
to 120 the oil temp will stay around 70 but I don't like run the
cylinder head that low the new plane is using shell 50W weight and my
old plane is using Phillips multigrade any suggestions
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
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Jon,
I think you missed my point. The formula below is for standard deviation
which is not what I was going for. To put it in terms that you might
understand, if the difference between IN and OUT temps are normally lets
just say 15 degrees C, then thats the mean, or average. If one day you
realize that the spread between the two temps is greater or less than 15
degrees, then there is something to look at. If the OUT is the same but IN
is higher then your oil cooler may not be working properly, or your oil
level may be low. If the IN is the same but the OUT is higher then you may
have something going on in the engine, etc etc etc.. There are many
different scenarios that can play out here.
So MEAN means average, SPREAD means difference, MEAN SPREAD means the
average difference of IN/OUT temps for your airplane.
Hope this helps.
Ernie
>>
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