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     1. 01:28 PM - Re: Yak 52 Air Cylinders for Sale (doug sapp)
     2. 01:47 PM - Looking for new exhaust for YAK-52 (Serge Svoysky)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:28:10 PM PST US
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak 52 Air Cylinders for Sale
    Are your Yak 52 air bottles the stock standard steel or the new stainless steel? Doug On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 3:21 PM, ggtyler <ggtyler@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yak 52 Air Cylinders for Sale > > Brand new large air cylinder $800 > Brand new emergency air cylinder $700 > Used emergency air cylinder, last hydro'd in 2012 $500 > > Please call 916-402- three five four five if interested. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471209#471209 > >


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    Time: 01:47:59 PM PST US
    From: Serge Svoysky <ssvoysky@gmail.com>
    Subject: Looking for new exhaust for YAK-52
    Looking for new exhaust for YAK-52. Mine blew up today. > On Apr 11, 2017, at 3:03 AM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics.co m> wrote: > > * > > ========================= ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ========================= ======================== > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=htm l&Chapter 17-04-10&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt &Chapter 17-04-10&Archive=Yak > > > ========================= ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ========================= ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 04/10/17: 13 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 07:49 AM - Wingtip Strobes Question (JON) > 2. 08:21 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Re:_PTT_hat_=F0=9F=8E=A9? (JON ) > 3. 09:02 AM - Re: Wingtip Strobes Question (Robin Hou) > 4. 09:02 AM - Re: Wingtip Strobes Question (Anthony Savarese) > 5. 09:20 AM - Manuals for Housai engine... (Cliff Coy) > 6. 11:34 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment (Walte r Lannon) > 7. 02:28 PM - 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Jon Blake) > 8. 02:53 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Ttail) > 9. 03:10 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Byron Fox) > 10. 03:11 PM - [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment (Ttail) > 11. 03:30 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment (Bitte rlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) > 12. 04:41 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Larry Pine) > 13. 06:53 PM - Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems (Jon Blake) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 07:49:14 AM PST US > From: JON <jblake207@comcast.net> > Subject: Yak-List: Wingtip Strobes Question > > My right wingtip strobe light has failed. The left works fine and the righ t > has that "burned out" appearance with black shading inside. See attached. > I bought a new Whelen brand strobe thinking it would be a direct replaceme n > t... I was wrong. The base of the Whelen is not pliable and is too large t o > fit inside the glass globe. The old light has a very pliable silicone base > and doesn't have the loop in the glass like the whelen light. My airplane > was imported by Yakkity Yaks in 1995 and I'm presuming they used similar i f > not exact same parts on most of their imports. So here's the question, doe > s anyone have a clue as to the brand name of these tip strobes? =C2-Also > any suggestions on repair or replacement are welcome. > > Thanks in advance Red Stars. > > JB > > Jon Blake > jblake207@comcast.net > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 08:21:36 AM PST US > From: JON <jblake207@comcast.net> > Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Yak-List:_Re:_PTT_hat_=F0=9F=8E=A9? > > Or purchase one=C2-from Doug Sapp to help keep him in the parts bidness. . > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Russ" <duncan1574@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 6:10:18 AM > Subject: Yak-List: Re: PTT hat =F0=9F=8E=A9 > > > Find your local amateur radio supply house and show them one. > > Russ > =========== > =========== > MS - > =========== > WIKI - > =========== > e - > =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. > =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 09:02:31 AM PST US > From: Robin Hou <rhou780@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Wingtip Strobes Question > > I think it is an Aeroflash unit: > > http://www.skygeek.com/073-0270.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium= shoppingengine&utm_content=073-0270&utm_campaign=froogle&gclid=CjwKEAj w2qzHBRChloWxgoXDpyASJAB01Io0-hY0jqahzz84mT3kvOIeK4O11kbb8k6yaGg8JBLnJRoClHr w_wcB > >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:45 AM, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> My right wingtip strobe light has failed. The left works fine and the >> right has that "burned out" appearance with black shading inside. See >> attached. I bought a new Whelen brand strobe thinking it would be a direc t >> replacement... I was wrong. The base of the Whelen is not pliable and is >> too large to fit inside the glass globe. The old light has a very pliable >> silicone base and doesn't have the loop in the glass like the whelen ligh t. >> My airplane was imported by Yakkity Yaks in 1995 and I'm presuming they >> used similar if not exact same parts on most of their imports. So here's >> the question, does anyone have a clue as to the brand name of these tip >> strobes? Also any suggestions on repair or replacement are welcome. >> >> Thanks in advance Red Stars. >> >> JB >> >> Jon Blake >> jblake207@comcast.net >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 09:02:40 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Wingtip Strobes Question > From: Anthony Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > Could it be an Aeroflash strobe light? > Dennis > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:45 AM, JON <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> My right wingtip strobe light has failed. The left works fine and the rig h > t has that "burned out" appearance with black shading inside. See attached . I > bought a new Whelen brand strobe thinking it would be a direct replacement . > .. I was wrong. The base of the Whelen is not pliable and is too large to f i > t inside the glass globe. The old light has a very pliable silicone base a nd > doesn't have the loop in the glass like the whelen light. My airplane was i > mported by Yakkity Yaks in 1995 and I'm presuming they used similar if not e > xact same parts on most of their imports. So here's the question, does any on > e have a clue as to the brand name of these tip strobes? Also any suggest io > ns on repair or replacement are welcome. >> >> Thanks in advance Red Stars. >> >> JB >> >> Jon Blake >> jblake207@comcast.net >> >> >> <Wing Strobe2.jpg> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 09:20:48 AM PST US > From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Manuals for Housai engine... > > Good afternoon all, > > Would anyone have a .pdf of the engine manuals, in English, for this engin e? > > We have an a FAA type who'd like to see them before issuing an > airworthiness certificate. > > Thanks and best regards, > Cliff > > -- > Clifford Coy > Border Air Ltd. > 629 Airport Rd. > Swanton, VT 05488 > 802-868-2822 TEL > 802-868-4465 FAX > Skype: Cliff.Coy > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 11:34:38 AM PST US > From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment > > > Hi Looigi; > > Thanks for the photos. Proves, again, that one should never make > assumptions in this business. The Yak 52 system is quite different than t he > CJ and likely much more modern. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Looigi > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 10:25 PM > Subject: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment > > > Hi Guys, > > Getting rid of the deviation is easy if the whole card needs to be adjuste d, > like Walt says, just turn the flux valve to suit. > > Does anyone know how to adjust the KM-8 Correction Mechanism that hides > behind the back seat on the yak-52? It looks like this..... > https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=135933&d=145704838 0 > > I am guessing that by looking at it the adjusting know makes the same > correction as turning the flux valve does, but has anyone else played with > it? > > Cheers > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468224#468224 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 02:28:42 PM PST US > From: Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> > Subject: Yak-List: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems > > > Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a year o r two > ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, and may be > more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB > > > Sent from my iPad > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 02:53:44 PM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: Re: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems > From: "Ttail" <ttail@internode.on.net> > > > http://www.aerospacelogic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_i d=88 > > Fitted one of these. Reasonably straight forward. Operated flawlessly for 2 years. > Recently one thermocouple went Kaput .... waiting on a spare. > > Company takes a while to respond to requests > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468266#468266 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 03:10:47 PM PST US > From: Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems > > I installed the CHT system, Jon. It's made by a Canadian outfit, the name > of which I can't remember at the moment. I can get it for you when next in > my hangar. They had some difficulty getting it through US customs, but > after some delay the system arrived. Truth be told I'm not wild about it. A > couple of the leads which affix below the spark plugs have failed. Also, I > question the accuracy. Seems to read a bit low when compared to the > remaining Chinese sensor in the backseat. > >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a year >> or two ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, >> and maybe more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > > > -- > ... Blitz > > Byron M. Fox > 80 Milland Drive > Mill Valley, CA 94941 > 415-307-2405 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 03:11:18 PM PST US > Subject: Yak-List: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Gyro compass adjustment > From: "Ttail" <ttail@internode.on.net> > > > This from a YAK40 manual might be of use: > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468267#468267 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/yak40simdg_366.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 03:30:55 PM PST US > From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment > > > Yes, I have had experience swinging old compass systems that used a Flux " Valve", > or Flux Gate Transmitter, or whatever you want to call them. We did it by > first checking the actual valve externally, then doing a visual site trans fer > (surveying scopes) into the airplane and then compensating for single and t wo > cycle errors. Each system is unique to some degree and sometimes some pre tty > elaborate equipment was used. > > > That said, the OLD way still works, and that is putting the airplane on a r ose > and simply adjusting the compensating magnets while moving the aircraft ar ound > the rose to align it with the cardinal points. Moving a flux valve in an a irplane > ... as in simply moving it directionally to "adjust for deviation" changes > the compensation of the valve. Meaning you will get it to read properly i n > one direction only. > > > I do not know the system in the 52 at all. But if it uses a REMOTE flux v alve, > then I would never move that valve in the mount to do a darn thing. Inste ad > I would find the compensation adjustment points and adjust those instead, p retty > much like you would any other compass. If you move the valve AT ALL, then > you must re-compensate it, because it the airplanes single and dual cycle e rrors, > induced by electrical fields and also fields around steel parts, etc.,etc. , > will change. > > > An interesting tid bit. I have seen compass roses at small airports all o ver the > place. They are probably inaccurate. We re-do the rose every 2 years. A > compass rose that was painted back in the day is no longer accurate. In 4 0 years, > the one here has shifted over two degrees, but that being said, it all dep ends > on how accurate you need to get. We had to be better than +/- one degree > for the flux valve systems. More than that for just a simple ole panel mo unt > job like you normally see in general aviation aircraft. > > > So, again ... not knowing the 52, I am worried that it mightt be the "hard kind" > and I would not turn anything until I found a manual, or an expert. It co uld > be dead easy. It also could be one that you turn the flux valve and it ne ver > works correctly again. :-( > > > Mark > > > ________________________________ > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics .com] > on behalf of Walter Lannon [wlannon@shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 12:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment > > > Hi Mark; > > Damned if I know; That is way beyond my pay grade but I'm sure you could > help. > > Yes; looking for the flux gate; transmitter; or whatever it may be called . > But in my 1965 CJ it is still a magnetic compass (though a very large one) , > with a card and a viewing window to facilitate calibration. Entirely > possible I have made a grave error by assuming the Yak 52 uses the same > unit, a mistake I make too often. > > The calibrated North/South line is usually included in the compass rose > which is found somewhere on most airport tarmacs. Can't say I have ever > seen one without that line, but then--------. > > Don't know about "art form" but often the compass swing can be one hell of a > lot of work and, in Canada, is a requirement for every Annual Inspection a nd > Certification that I do. > > Cheers; > Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 7:51 PM > Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment > > <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Interesting Walt. > > > Are you trying to remove single or two cycle error? > > > Mark Bitterlich. > > > p.s. Swinging a compass is an art form. "First thing is to find the > compass". I think you might be talking about a flux valve. I have not > worked on this system in a YAK-52 and if it is what I think you are talkin g > about, I have no desire to, but I would like to know the facts regarding > this particular system. Can you educate me please? For what it is worth, > my input is that first you have to find a calibrated north south line. > Good luck with that. > > > ________________________________ > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Walter Lannon > [wlannon@shaw.ca] > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 1:36 AM > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment > > > The gyrosyn compass is a gyro stabilized magnetic compass and is not tied t o > the ADF. First thing is find the compass. Most likely in the aft > fuselage - remote from > electrical interference as much as possible. > It has a corrector unit like the standby compass and is swung in the same > manner but has an additional feature. Once the standard swing is complete > calculate the average algebraic sum of the corrections (+ or -), unlock a nd > rotate the entire compass in the correct direction to remove that error. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Looigi > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 4:57 PM > Subject: Yak-List: Gyro compass adjustment > > > Hi All, > > We have just imported a Yak-52 into New Zealand from Italy. He is almost > ready for flight, but one job that remains is to do a compass swing. > > Our plane has had the ADF system removed. I am not sure if that affects > things; I know the systems are sort of tied together. > > The direct reading compasses are easy, but does anyone have any data on ho w > to adjust the gyro compass? I have flicked the switch on the control pane l > to "South" and set the lattitude, but I am thinking I will need to fiddle > with it to sort the deviation. > > Many thanks > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=468154#468154 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 04:41:41 PM PST US > From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems > > I have bought stuff from this company as well. This is a very small garag e c > ompany and due to their size customer service suffers. > Larry > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 10, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I installed the CHT system, Jon. It's made by a Canadian outfit, the name o > f which I can't remember at the moment. I can get it for you when next in m y > hangar. They had some difficulty getting it through US customs, but after s > ome delay the system arrived. Truth be told I'm not wild about it. A coupl e o > f the leads which affix below the spark plugs have failed. Also, I questio n t > he accuracy. Seems to read a bit low when compared to the remaining Chines e s > ensor in the backseat. >> >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote : > >>> >>> Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a yea r > or two ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, a > nd maybe more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> ======================== >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi g > ator?Yak-List >>> ======================== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ======================== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ======================== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi o > n >>> ======================== >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ... Blitz >> >> Byron M. Fox >> 80 Milland Drive >> Mill Valley, CA 94941 >> 415-307-2405 >> > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________ ________ > > > Time: 06:53:39 PM PST US > From: Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: 9 cylinder egt/cht systems > > Thanks Blitz. I'm thinking about the edm 700-9 but it's expensive. Maybe I c > ould sell some blood... Nope, tainted with mad cow and crown. Saber > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 10, 2017, at 18:08, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I installed the CHT system, Jon. It's made by a Canadian outfit, the name o > f which I can't remember at the moment. I can get it for you when next in m y > hangar. They had some difficulty getting it through US customs, but after s > ome delay the system arrived. Truth be told I'm not wild about it. A coupl e o > f the leads which affix below the spark plugs have failed. Also, I questio n t > he accuracy. Seems to read a bit low when compared to the remaining Chines e s > ensor in the backseat. >> >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jon Blake <jblake207@comcast.net> wrote : > >>> >>> Seems like someone posted an inexpensive 9 cylinder system on here a yea r > or two ago... Does anyone remember the system and where to get it? Also, a > nd maybe more important, any reviews? Thanks, JB >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> ======================== >>> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi g > ator?Yak-List >>> ======================== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ======================== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ======================== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi o > n >>> ======================== >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ... Blitz >> >> Byron M. Fox >> 80 Milland Drive >> Mill Valley, CA 94941 >> 415-307-2405 >> > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > >




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