Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/02/17


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:51 AM - Re: Yak gas cap cover (Yakjumper)
     2. 05:07 AM - Structural repairs (Mike Beresford)
     3. 06:34 AM - Re: Structural repairs (Richard Goode)
     4. 06:49 AM - Re: Structural repairs (A. Dennis Savarese)
     5. 10:54 AM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (jay-dub)
     6. 11:36 AM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (Robin Hou)
     7. 12:07 PM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (jay-dub)
     8. 12:37 PM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (Harv)
     9. 02:40 PM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (Harv)
    10. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (Walter Lannon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:51:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak gas cap cover
    From: "Yakjumper" <tobias@macnews.de>
    If still needed I got several NOS original ones in stock. Paint/wax from the factory Located in Germany, shipping no problem, got other parts as well. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471423#471423 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gascover_nos_161.jpg


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    Time: 05:07:52 AM PST US
    From: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Structural repairs
    Hi all We've found some corrosion on the spar caps of my Yak-52, which is going to have to be repaired before further flight. Is there an official repair manual for the Yak-52, or do most facilities use generic data such as AC 43.13? ThanksMike


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    Time: 06:34:15 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Structural repairs
    Hello Mike, I'm sure, given Russian thoroughness, that there is a detailed repair manual. But equally it would have been made in about 10 copies only and given to only the big repair factories. They regard these things as state secrets, and definitely would not release them, even although they are all pretty much defunct. So I think you need to go back to basics and use generic repair technology =93 but it is a fairly conventional aeroplane. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful! Regards Richard Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka) Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com I=99m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is +94 779 132 160. From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Beresford Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Structural repairs Hi all We've found some corrosion on the spar caps of my Yak-52, which is going to have to be repaired before further flight. Is there an official repair manual for the Yak-52, or do most facilities use generic data such as AC 43.13? Thanks Mike -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.mailscanner.info/> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 06:49:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Structural repairs
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Mike, I'm curious where the airplane has been stored and used? The only place Ipersonally have ever seen serious corrosion on a 52 is on aircraft stored in an open hangar and very near salt water. Also operated over salt water at "low" altitudes. A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 8/2/2017 9:33 AM, Richard Goode wrote: > > Hello Mike, > > I'm sure, given Russian thoroughness, that there is a detailed repair > manual. But equally it would have been made in about 10 copies only > and given to only the big repair factories. They regard these things > as state secrets, and definitely would not release them, even although > they are all pretty much defunct. > > So I think you need to go back to basics and use generic repair > technology but it is a fairly conventional aeroplane. > > I'm sorry I can't be more helpful! > > Regards > > Richard > > Rhodds Farm > > Lyonshall > > Hereford > > HR5 3LW > > United Kingdom > > Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka) > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > > www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com> > > Im currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone > is +94 779 132 160. > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Beresford > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:36 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Yak-List: Structural repairs > > Hi all > > We've found some corrosion on the spar caps of my Yak-52, which is > going to have to be repaired before further flight. > > Is there an official repair manual for the Yak-52, or do most > facilities use generic data such as AC 43.13? > > Thanks > > Mike > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is > believed to be clean. >


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    Time: 10:54:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "jay-dub" <flyjnw@gmail.com>
    Thanks, Walt. The removed external panel is just aft of the firewall on the lower right side of the forward fuselage. I'm interested in your comments above as we have no immediate means of comparison. If I get chance, I will ask to open the same panel on one of the other two Huosai powered CJs in the UK to see. -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471441#471441


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    Time: 11:36:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "Robin Hou" <rhou780@gmail.com>
    Jay-Dub, do you oil hoses pass through the firewall with fittings? On my 85 CJ-6 both oil hoses run through the firewall via grommets without fittings. My oil hose is Chinese so I assume they are original since 1990's when it was exported to the U.S. I have considered adding fittings as firewall pass through when I replace the oil hose. However, the firewall is only aluminum so any benefit of the fittings may not be realized in case of fire. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471442#471442


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    Time: 12:07:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "jay-dub" <flyjnw@gmail.com>
    They go through the firewall with grommets. -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471444#471444


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    Time: 12:37:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    So the pic is you posted is taken looking through the STB side fuselage access panel which makes more sense. I'm with my aircraft tonight so will take a picture for you. The only possibly explanation I can think right now is someone has done a very nasty modification with the engine oil feed line to the cooler buy adding a fitting and running two smaller hoses (possibly for ease of replacement??) rather than obtain a new Chinese hose. It has certainly doubled the failure mode (as you have found out) and I'm quite surprised whoever maintains your AC hasn't insisted this was removed (that's just my 2pence worth) in the normal course of performing the 3 year periodical hose pressure test [Shocked] but that assumes they "know" these aircraft. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471445#471445


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    Time: 02:40:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Oil hoses running through the firewall, the fitting you see connects to the excellent Craig Payne oil filter bypass system Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471450#471450 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_334.jpeg


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    Time: 09:18:22 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    Jay-dub; Attaching a photo taken inside the RH lower, forward, fuselage panel (approx. 5" X 7") just aft of the firewall and above the floor. The LH side has an identical panel in the same location. The two oil hoses you see (though new a few years ago) are exactly as original. They are approx. 6 ft. long and join the oil cooler hoses in the area of an access panel under the RH fwd. wing LE/fuselage fairing. All you see in the photo is stock, with the exception of my 24/12 voltage converter at the bottom. In the upper LH corner is the fuel pressure transmitters the hose connector for which attaches on the fwd. side of the firewall. In the lower RH corner of the photo there is a heavy metal section which is the inboard side of the RH lower longeron. This is a wide, "U" shaped structure (one of four) which carries the major fuselage loads. In viewing your photo the longeron is also visible (full of oil) but is located in the LH lower corner of the image. If the photo as taken aft to fwd as the firewall image appears to suggest I am really confused. Mine is a 1965 version and at least to the late 1970's this area is unchanged. Maybe not true of later models? Cheers; Walt -----Original Message----- From: jay-dub Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:54 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? Thanks, Walt. The removed external panel is just aft of the firewall on the lower right side of the forward fuselage. I'm interested in your comments above as we have no immediate means of comparison. If I get chance, I will ask to open the same panel on one of the other two Huosai powered CJs in the UK to see. -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471441#471441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus




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