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Thu 08/03/17


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:19 AM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (jay-dub)
     2. 04:18 AM - Re: Structural repairs (Mike Beresford)
     3. 04:19 AM - Re: Structural repairs (Mike Beresford)
     4. 05:23 AM - Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (jay-dub)
     5. 06:50 PM - Russian start valve (glipaz)
     6. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? (Walter Lannon)
     7. 09:19 PM - Test - KingCJ6 (KingCJ6@aol.com)
     8. 09:37 PM - Re: Test - KingCJ6 (Walter Lannon)
     9. 10:01 PM - Re: Russian start valve (Yakjumper)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:19:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "jay-dub" <flyjnw@gmail.com>
    Harv wrote: > So the pic is you posted is taken looking through the STB side fuselage access panel which makes more sense. > > I'm with my aircraft tonight so will take a picture for you. > > The only possibly explanation I can think right now is someone has done a very nasty modification with the engine oil feed line to the cooler buy adding a fitting and running two smaller hoses (possibly for ease of replacement??) rather than obtain a new Chinese hose. > > It has certainly doubled the failure mode (as you have found out) and I'm quite surprised whoever maintains your AC hasn't insisted this was removed (that's just my 2pence worth) in the normal course of performing the 3 year periodical hose pressure test [Shocked] but that assumes they "know" these aircraft. As you know, there's not a great deal of CJ experience in Europe. I'm very keen to have it torn apart totally and a ground up IRAN rebuild but not sure whether that's viable ultimately. As to converting it back to the correct specification, not even sure I'd know where to start.... -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471467#471467


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    Time: 04:18:28 AM PST US
    From: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Structural repairs
    Hi all Dennis, the aircraft has generally not been close to the sea. I had it for many years in South Africa, on the Highveld, which is aboout 450 miles from the nearest sea and 5 500 ft asl. For the past two years it has been in st orage in a hangar in Australia, about 30 miles from the coast. It may have been exposure to a salty environment during the shipping from S outh Africa to Australia, or simply older damage that we;ve never picked up . I'll try to get some pics this weekend. RegardsMike From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, 3 August 2017, 0:03 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Structural repairs th.net> Mike, I'm curious where the airplane has been stored and used?=C2- The only pla ce Ipersonally have ever seen serious corrosion on a 52 is on aircraft stored in an open hangar and very near salt water.=C2- Also operated over salt water at "low" altitudes. A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 8/2/2017 9:33 AM, Richard Goode wrote: > > Hello Mike, > > I'm sure, given Russian thoroughness, that there is a detailed repair > manual. But equally it would have been made in about 10 copies only > and given to only the big repair factories. They regard these things > as state secrets, and definitely would not release them, even although > they are all pretty much defunct. > > So I think you need to go back to basics and use generic repair > technology =93 but it is a fairly conventional aeroplane. > > I'm sorry I can't be more helpful! > > Regards > > Richard > > Rhodds Farm > > Lyonshall > > Hereford > > HR5 3LW > > United Kingdom > >=C2- Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka) > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > > www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com> > > I=99m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone > is +94 779 132 160. > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Beresfor d > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:36 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Yak-List: Structural repairs > > Hi all > > We've found some corrosion on the spar caps of my Yak-52, which is > going to have to be repaired before further flight. > > Is there an official repair manual for the Yak-52, or do most > facilities use generic data such as AC 43.13? > > Thanks > > Mike > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is > believed to be clean. > S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 04:19:48 AM PST US
    From: Mike Beresford <mike_beresford@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Structural repairs
    Hi Thanks Richard, I figured that might be the case. Is there a generally accepted Western equivalent for the alloy materials? C lassic 2024? RegardsMike From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2017, 23:43 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Structural repairs #yiv3439713876 #yiv3439713876 -- _filtered #yiv3439713876 {font-family:Helv etica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3439713876 {font-family :Latha;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3439713876 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3439713876 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1 :2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3439713876 {font-family:Tahoma;panose -1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv3439713876 #yiv3439713876 p.yiv3439713876MsoNo rmal, #yiv3439713876 li.yiv3439713876MsoNormal, #yiv3439713876 div.yiv34397 13876MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv3439 713876 a:link, #yiv3439713876 span.yiv3439713876MsoHyperlink {color:blue;te xt-decoration:underline;}#yiv3439713876 a:visited, #yiv3439713876 span.yiv3 439713876MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv 3439713876 span.yiv3439713876EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv3439713876 .y iv3439713876MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv3439713876 {mar gin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv3439713876 div.yiv3439713876WordSection1 { }#yiv3439713876 Hello Mike, =C2-I'm sure, given Russian thoroughness, tha t there is a detailed repair manual. But equally it would have been made in about 10 copies only and given to only the big repair factories. They rega rd these things as state secrets, and definitely would not release them, ev en although they are all pretty much defunct. =C2-So I think you need to go back to basics and use generic repair technology =93 but it is a f airly conventional aeroplane. =C2-I'm sorry I can't be more helpful! =C2 -Regards =C2-Richard =C2-Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW Unite d Kingdom =C2-Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)Tel:=C2-=C2- +44 (0 ) 1544 340120 Fax:=C2- +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.comI=99 m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is +94 779 132 160. =C2-From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner -yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Beresford Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Structural repairs =C2-Hi all =C2-We've found some c orrosion on the spar caps of my Yak-52, which is going to have to be repair ed before further flight. =C2-Is there an official repair manual for the Yak-52, or do most facilities use generic data such as AC 43.13? =C2-Than ksMike -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 05:23:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    From: "jay-dub" <flyjnw@gmail.com>
    The other thing which is a little different, which slipped my mind entirely, is that we have an engine pre-oil system. Potentially the mysterious hoses are something to do with that... -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471471#471471


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    Time: 06:50:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Russian start valve
    From: "glipaz" <glipaz@yahoo.com>
    Has anyone rebuilt one using Doug's kit? Advice, instructions, schematics, pics? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471483#471483


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    Time: 08:59:12 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors?
    Jay-dub; I presume by now you realize there is only one right hand side on an aircraft and your hose failure had nothing to do with the oil cooler hoses. Not being familiar with the home made pre-oil systems that some install on these aircraft I assume the two small hoses I noted earlier go to the pre-oil pump. If the one I questioned is on the pressure side it is likely a failure waiting to happen. How the large (failed) hose fits into the pre-oil system I have no idea. Walt -----Original Message----- From: jay-dub Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 5:22 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Blown oil hose CJ - connectors? The other thing which is a little different, which slipped my mind entirely, is that we have an engine pre-oil system. Potentially the mysterious hoses are something to do with that... -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471471#471471 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 09:19:42 PM PST US
    From: KingCJ6@aol.com
    Subject: Test - KingCJ6
    Does this work? Dave


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    Time: 09:37:25 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Test - KingCJ6
    Affirmative! Walt From: KingCJ6@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:18 PM Subject: Yak-List: Test - KingCJ6 Does this work? Dave --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 10:01:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Russian start valve
    From: "Yakjumper" <tobias@macnews.de>
    Would be interesting to know. The valve in my Yak is sticky, I have to press the lever (on the side of the valve) first, then the start button works. Got a complete new valve, but fixing the old one makes more sense. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=471487#471487




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