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Tue 08/29/17


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 12:25 AM - Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please (John B)
     2. 04:38 AM - Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please (A. Dennis Savarese)
     3. 05:09 AM - Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please (Hank Gibson)
     4. 06:06 AM - Re: Housai Oil Pressure (Harv)
     5. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: Housai Oil Pressure (George S. Coy)
     6. 07:12 AM - Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please (Rico Jaeger)
     7. 10:18 AM - Re: Re: Housai Oil Pressure (Walter Lannon)
     8. 10:30 AM - Re: Snot valve parts (Jill Gernetzke)
     9. 10:36 AM - Re: gear retraction problem (Harv)
    10. 10:57 AM - Re: Housai Oil Pressure (Harv)
    11. 02:18 PM - Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please (Looigi)
    12. 04:23 PM - Re: gear retraction problem (jay-dub)
    13. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: gear retraction problem (A. Dennis Savarese)
    14. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Housai Oil Pressure (Walter Lannon)
    15. 06:57 PM - CJ wiring (Frank Stelwagon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:25:19 AM PST US
    From: John B <jbsoar@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please
    What fittings welded in to the snot valve? Male or female? Pipe? Thank you. JB On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Looigi <cdoburton@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > > The boys have damaged the seat on our Yak-52 compressor drain (snot) > valve. The valve thread is a bit loose too. > > Would anyone have a spare serviceable one lying in the bottom of their > tool box please? > > Alternatively, has anyone come up with a fix? > > Many thanks > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472289#472289 > >


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    Time: 04:38:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Looigi, Contact Stan Mehrhoff in Missouri. He's parting out his Yak 52. He may still have one. I'm copying Stan on this email. n188rv@yahoo.com Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 8/28/2017 11:10 PM, Looigi wrote: > > Hello All, > > The boys have damaged the seat on our Yak-52 compressor drain (snot) valve. The valve thread is a bit loose too. > > Would anyone have a spare serviceable one lying in the bottom of their tool box please? > > Alternatively, has anyone come up with a fix? > > Many thanks > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472289#472289 > >


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    Time: 05:09:28 AM PST US
    From: Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please
    Looigi- Highly recommend replacing lower ends (the valve part) of your 2 snot valves with a SS swagelok valve which will never rust and is a easy and terrific m od to do. Just another way to protect your pneumatic system upstream of the rest of your components. Contact me off list for the PP presentation which lays the procedure out. Posted to the list before and the RP Facebook page . Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2017, at 7:35 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.n et> wrote: > > Looigi, > Contact Stan Mehrhoff in Missouri. He's parting out his Yak 52. He may s till have one. I'm copying Stan on this email. > n188rv@yahoo.com > > Dennis > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-546-8182 (mobile) > www.yak-52.com > Skype - Yakguy1 >> On 8/28/2017 11:10 PM, Looigi wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> The boys have damaged the seat on our Yak-52 compressor drain (snot) valv e. The valve thread is a bit loose too. >> >> Would anyone have a spare serviceable one lying in the bottom of their to ol box please? >> >> Alternatively, has anyone come up with a fix? >> >> Many thanks >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472289#472289 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============


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    Time: 06:06:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Housai Oil Pressure
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Tom Your CJ maybe like mine and the oil pressure senders are not located on the rear of the engine firewall but the secondary frame wall/cockpit area one. The pic that Walt posted shows the approximate type and shape of the sender's but those I believe are the fuel ones and the oil senders (Transducers if you prefer) have a brown case covers. On my aircraft they are located in the front cockpit and bolt through the panel (you may call is a secondary firewall or forward frame) just above the STB rudder pedal area. Now its interesting you mention the issue you are having as my CJ oil pressure went exactly the same in the front cockpit and after alot of messing about I traced it to a faulty sender (swapping cannon plugs identified where the issue lay) which when opened up looked like it had been full of water??. I managed to rinse the muck out of it and clean up the delicate internals and it now works but I had to fabricate a new spring to return the potentiometer arm to zero. Hope this helps. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472300#472300


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    Time: 06:22:36 AM PST US
    From: "George S. Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Housai Oil Pressure
    We have spare transducers if needed. George Coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harv Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:06 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Housai Oil Pressure Tom Your CJ maybe like mine and the oil pressure senders are not located on the rear of the engine firewall but the secondary frame wall/cockpit area one. The pic that Walt posted shows the approximate type and shape of the sender's but those I believe are the fuel ones and the oil senders (Transducers if you prefer) have a brown case covers. On my aircraft they are located in the front cockpit and bolt through the panel (you may call is a secondary firewall or forward frame) just above the STB rudder pedal area. Now its interesting you mention the issue you are having as my CJ oil pressure went exactly the same in the front cockpit and after alot of messing about I traced it to a faulty sender (swapping cannon plugs identified where the issue lay) which when opened up looked like it had been full of water??. I managed to rinse the muck out of it and clean up the delicate internals and it now works but I had to fabricate a new spring to return the potentiometer arm to zero. Hope this helps. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472300#472300


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    Time: 07:12:10 AM PST US
    From: Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please
    Dennis, May I please have Stan's email? I'm looking for some items, too. Thanks!! Rico Jaeger 915 S. 11th Ave. Wausau, WI. 54401 715.529.7426 // 1969 Cessna 150J ^/---//-X N61333 // Hangar #35 / AUW // 1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X N21YK // Hangar #21 / AUW ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com <owner-yak-list-server@matronics. com> on behalf of A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:35:58 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-52 snot valve needed please Looigi, Contact Stan Mehrhoff in Missouri. He's parting out his Yak 52. He may st ill have one. I'm copying Stan on this email. n188rv@yahoo.com<mailto:n188rv@yahoo.com> Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com<http://www.yak-52.com> Skype - Yakguy1 On 8/28/2017 11:10 PM, Looigi wrote: rton@gmail.com> Hello All, The boys have damaged the seat on our Yak-52 compressor drain (snot) valve. The valve thread is a bit loose too. Would anyone have a spare serviceable one lying in the bottom of their tool box please? Alternatively, has anyone come up with a fix? Many thanks Chris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472289#472289


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    Time: 10:18:19 AM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Housai Oil Pressure
    Harv; Did you read the text? Or do you just look at pictures? Walt -----Original Message----- From: Harv Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:06 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Housai Oil Pressure Tom Your CJ maybe like mine and the oil pressure senders are not located on the rear of the engine firewall but the secondary frame wall/cockpit area one. The pic that Walt posted shows the approximate type and shape of the sender's but those I believe are the fuel ones and the oil senders (Transducers if you prefer) have a brown case covers. On my aircraft they are located in the front cockpit and bolt through the panel (you may call is a secondary firewall or forward frame) just above the STB rudder pedal area. Now its interesting you mention the issue you are having as my CJ oil pressure went exactly the same in the front cockpit and after alot of messing about I traced it to a faulty sender (swapping cannon plugs identified where the issue lay) which when opened up looked like it had been full of water??. I managed to rinse the muck out of it and clean up the delicate internals and it now works but I had to fabricate a new spring to return the potentiometer arm to zero. Hope this helps. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472300#472300 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 10:30:36 AM PST US
    From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
    Subject: Re: Snot valve parts
    Chris, Contact me offlist. We manufacture the valve and brass nut for the snot valve. Jill Gernetzke M-14P, Inc. 4905 Flightline Drive Kingman, AZ 86401 928-681-4400 www.m-14p.com


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    Time: 10:36:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: gear retraction problem
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Bruno I have the sister of your aircraft and of course served together in the PLA and also have the restricted rear gear and flap function as its a mandatory modification required by the UK CAA. I would remove the rear cockpit gear restrictor plate and do the test Dennis has given as the will test both gear handle valves. It's good practice to excercise the rear cockpit one periodically, refit handle restrictor plate after tests. Doug sells kits to rebuild the diverter valves and I did all mine when we brought the a/c onto the UK register. There was corrosion in about three of them so they were replaced and upgraded. Good luck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472319#472319


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    Time: 10:57:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Housai Oil Pressure
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Yes I did but making doubly sure the op is without doubt about colours and location of senders as there seems to be some confusion earlier in this post. Moreover hopefully my matching symptoms/mode of failure will provide a steer as to the possible issue he's having Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472320#472320


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    Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak-52 snot valve needed please
    From: "Looigi" <cdoburton@gmail.com>
    Thank you guys and girls for the prompt and most helpfull replies. Here is a picture of the valve just for information sake. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472331#472331 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0907_183.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0908_185.jpg


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    Time: 04:23:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: gear retraction problem
    From: "jay-dub" <flyjnw@gmail.com>
    We did that routinely for some time. In fact our rear selector was not secured. It is not a requirement in the Yak-52 (in the U.K.) so we figured we'd argue the toss if we were pulled up. Nevertheless, it leaked so we have now removed the rear selector entirely. One source of leakage solved on a part we do not use anyway. -------- CJ and Yak-52 owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472335#472335


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    Time: 04:39:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: gear retraction problem
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Best thing you ever did! Should do the rear flap selector too. Just two additional unnecessary points of failure. A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 8/29/2017 7:23 PM, jay-dub wrote: > > We did that routinely for some time. In fact our rear selector was not secured. It is not a requirement in the Yak-52 (in the U.K.) so we figured we'd argue the toss if we were pulled up. Nevertheless, it leaked so we have now removed the rear selector entirely. One source of leakage solved on a part we do not use anyway. > > -------- > CJ and Yak-52 owner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472335#472335 > >


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    Time: 06:25:59 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Housai Oil Pressure
    A simple apology would have been in order but you don't appear to understand that either. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Harv Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:56 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Housai Oil Pressure Yes I did but making doubly sure the op is without doubt about colours and location of senders as there seems to be some confusion earlier in this post. Moreover hopefully my matching symptoms/mode of failure will provide a steer as to the possible issue he's having Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472320#472320 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 06:57:49 PM PST US
    From: Frank Stelwagon <pfstelwagon@earthlink.net>
    Subject: CJ wiring
    It appears that the Chinese weren't always careful when soldering the solder pot style connectors. In some cases they would wind up with creep up the wire making the wire stiff and prone to breaking from vibration. Many techs today have never seen a solder connector, only crimp connectors and wind up with creep when making repairs. If you can find old connectors take them apart and practice using the old pins. Frank. CJ6-A Sent from my iPhone




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