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     1. 09:26 PM - Re: Low Pass Engine Sputter (Roger Kemp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:26:03 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Low Pass Engine Sputter
    Same same. Maxwell AFB regularly grants my request at or below 500 ft on the center line with no configuration or speed requirements. Only once have I been restricted to 500ft due to a C 130 being cleared to position and hold. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 8, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > > Nigel. > > I am sure it works the way you describe in your country. It does not work that way in this country. I regularly request a low pass, or a low approach at my home airport on a regular basis. This is a FAA towered airport. It is "cleared as requested" every single time. > > When flying from my airport to the beach, I fly right over Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point. When I ask for clearance through their Class D airspace, I wait for approval, and then say: "Request 500 feet *OR LOWER* down the runways (which are three miles long) and the answer is typically: "Cleared as requested, keep it over the runway". > > Lastly, our aircraft are "Experimental Exhibition", a category not found in your country. The purpose of this category is to exhibit the specific operating characteristics of the make and model of aircraft, and that includes for photography. Making a HIGH SPEED PASS directly over the runway, is an approved demonstration of those characteristics. > > So excuse me if I have to disagree with your argument. If a Federal Aviation Administration controlled airport tells me "approved as requested" when I specifically ask for a "low approach/pass", there is no requirement for me to exhibit a certain speed, a certain landing configuration, or a certain altitude. > > At least that has been the case for the last 45 years I have been doing low passes at the airports in my country. > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nigel Willson > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:43 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Yak-List: Low Pass Engine Sputter > > > Even in your attached document the inference is a low approach TO LAND (i.e. in the landing configuration), and not a high speed low pass with no intention of landing..... That is called a "Fly-through". So the rules (that protect you from prosecution because you are in approach an landing mode) do not apply to this type of manoeuvre....... > > > Regards, > Nigel Willson > Flying Instructor & Examiner | Airshow Organiser | Display Pilot > > > > Mobile: > +44 (0)7809 116676 > > > Email: > nigel.willson@yakdisplay.com > > > Web: > http://easyppl.com > http://greatbritishairshows.com > http://yakdisplay.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > Sent: 08 September 2017 18:26 > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Low Pass Engine Sputter > > --> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Seriously? What country are you from? > > http://www.cfinotebook.net/notebook/aircraft-operations/approaches/low-approach > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of L129bs > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 12:16 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Yak-List: Low Pass Engine Sputter > > well, low passes are illegal. So do them. problem solved. > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: bmsim <bmsim@hotmail.com> > Date:2017/09/08 9:54 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Cc: > Subject: Yak-List: Low Pass Engine Sputter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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