---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/14/17: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:32 AM - Re: No SNOT (Ernest Martinez) 2. 04:48 AM - Re: No SNOT (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 06:31 AM - Re: No SNOT (Justin Drafts) 4. 06:39 AM - Re: No SNOT (A. Dennis Savarese) 5. 07:07 AM - Re: No SNOT (William Geipel) 6. 07:10 AM - Re: No SNOT (William Geipel) 7. 07:22 AM - Re: No SNOT (doug sapp) 8. 07:45 AM - Re: No SNOT (Hans Oortman) 9. 08:09 AM - Re: No SNOT (Anthony Savarese) 10. 10:52 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: No SNOT (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) 11. 11:00 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: No SNOT (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) 12. 11:28 AM - Re: No SNOT (William Geipel) 13. 11:28 AM - Re: No SNOT (William Geipel) 14. 11:31 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] No SNOT (William Geipel) 15. 11:53 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] No SNOT (William Geipel) 16. 11:56 AM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] No SNOT (Ernest Martinez) 17. 12:01 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] No SNOT (William Geipel) 18. 12:24 PM - Re: No SNOT (A. Dennis Savarese) 19. 02:15 PM - Re: Remote oil filter (Ttail) 20. 05:48 PM - Re: No SNOT (glipaz) 21. 05:59 PM - CJ Nose gear won't retract (glipaz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:38 AM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Plugged line prior to snot valve? On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:38 PM William Geipel wrote: > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off > valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at > fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on > electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from > compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure > increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:38 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Bill,You said the bottle pressure increases.=C2- In your judgement, is it taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: Input side ; Output side AND the drain?=C2- You can immerse the snot bottle in avgas , shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with your fingers, plug up t wo openings and let it drain out the 3rd opening.=C2- Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything that flushes out is avgas-clear. Dennis From: William Geipel To: Yaklist Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: No SNOT No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at fill p oint, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to a irplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. Not much else to change. Any thoughts? S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:27 AM PST US From: Justin Drafts Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis describes... I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very audible behavior? Justin On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Bill, > You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it taking > longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? > > Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: Input > side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot bottle in avgas, > shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with your fingers, plug up two > openings and let it drain out the 3rd opening. Repeat the process for all > 3 openings until everything that flushes out is avgas-clear. > > Dennis > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* William Geipel > *To:* Yaklist > *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM > *Subject:* Yak-List: No SNOT > > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off > valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at > fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on > electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from > compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure > increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > s.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > <=============== > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT From: "A. Dennis Savarese" No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: > Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned > has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis > describes... > I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the > main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very > audible behavior? > > Justin > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > > wrote: > > Bill, > You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it > taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? > > Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: > Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot > bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with > your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd > opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything > that flushes out is avgas-clear. > > Dennis > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* William Geipel > > *To:* Yaklist > > *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM > * > > > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new > pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, > new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I > was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to > the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is > clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > * > *s.matronics.com/ " > target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > *<=============== > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > > * > ** > ** > ** > > * > * > ** ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:26 AM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Nope. Blew air from air compressor to the snot valve. Valve open blew air thru it. closed, no leak. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 05:31, Ernest Martinez wrote: > > Plugged line prior to snot valve? > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:38 PM William Geipel > wrote: > > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > ========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:00 AM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT A little faster now but only gets to 3.5. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 05:47, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > Bill, > You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? > > Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything that flushes out is avgas-clear. > > Dennis > > > From: William Geipel > To: Yaklist > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM > Subject: Yak-List: No SNOT > > > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > s.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > <=============== > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:51 AM PST US From: doug sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT I assume that you are making air? If yes how long does it take to reach pop off @ 45 ATMS? When you compressor installed did you use new crush washers? Have you checked the line and line fittings from compressor to snot valve? I have a compressor test set if needed. Doug On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:33 PM, William Geipel wrote: > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off > valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at > fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on > electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from > compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure > increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT From: Hans Oortman Dennis, I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) rather then air-oil separator. After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing left again to replace...the air compressor. In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now since the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! Regards, Hans O. PH-YAK Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: > > > No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the > beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-546-8182 (mobile) > www.yak-52.com > Skype - Yakguy1 > > On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: >> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned >> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis >> describes... >> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the >> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very >> audible behavior? >> >> Justin >> >> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese >> > wrote: >> >> Bill, >> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it >> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? >> >> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: >> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot >> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with >> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd >> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything >> that flushes out is avgas-clear. >> >> Dennis >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* William Geipel > >> *To:* Yaklist > > >> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM >> * >> > >> >> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new >> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, >> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I >> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to >> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is >> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. >> >> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> >> * >> *s.matronics.com/ " >> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> * >> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> *<=============== >> * >> * >> * >> * >> * >> * >> * >> * >> >> * >> ** >> ** >> ** >> >> * >> * >> ** > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT From: Anthony Savarese Oops. You are correct. My bad. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Hans Oortman wrote: > > > Dennis, > > I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) > rather then air-oil separator. > After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you > wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... > > I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing left > again to replace...the air compressor. > In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not > doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now since > the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! > > Regards, > > Hans O. > PH-YAK > > > Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: > >> >> >> No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the >> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-546-8182 (mobile) >> www.yak-52.com >> Skype - Yakguy1 >> >>> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: >>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned >>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis >>> describes... >>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the >>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very >>> audible behavior? >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Bill, >>> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it >>> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? >>> >>> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: >>> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot >>> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with >>> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd >>> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything >>> that flushes out is avgas-clear. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* William Geipel > >>> *To:* Yaklist >> > >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM >>> * >>> > >>> >>> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new >>> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, >>> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I >>> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to >>> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is >>> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. >>> >>> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> >>> * >>> *s.matronics.com/ " >>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> * >>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> * >>> *<=============== >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> >>> * >>> ** >>> ** >>> ** >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ** >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:58 AM PST US From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Go back to the pop-off valve assembly, connect your high pressure air bottle there and blow the air BACKWARDS towards the compressor. You'll need to have at least 500 PSI of air. You will more than likely find your problem. Either the crush washers are leaking, or ... your banjo ring check valve assy is leaking air backwards. This will have all the indications of a bad compressor. If everything checks good during this test, and there are no leaks, then your compressor or drive assembly is bad. ________________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Anthony Savarese [dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:07 AM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Oops. You are correct. My bad. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Hans Oortman wrote: > > > Dennis, > > I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) > rather then air-oil separator. > After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you > wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... > > I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing left > again to replace...the air compressor. > In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not > doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now since > the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! > > Regards, > > Hans O. > PH-YAK > > > Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: > >> >> >> No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the >> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-546-8182 (mobile) >> www.yak-52.com >> Skype - Yakguy1 >> >>> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: >>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned >>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis >>> describes... >>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the >>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very >>> audible behavior? >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Bill, >>> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it >>> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? >>> >>> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: >>> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot >>> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with >>> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd >>> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything >>> that flushes out is avgas-clear. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* William Geipel > >>> *To:* Yaklist >> > >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM >>> * >>> > >>> >>> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new >>> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, >>> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I >>> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to >>> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is >>> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. >>> >>> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> >>> * >>> *s.matronics.com/ " >>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> * >>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> * >>> *<=============== >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> >>> * >>> ** >>> ** >>> ** >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ** >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:58 AM PST US From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Yes. It should have 735 PSI of air in the lines, thus the loud hiss. If there is no pressure in the lines, then there is no hiss. He has a leak. It can be the crush washers, or it can also be the check valve in the banjo assembly. The compressor reaches peak pressure when the piston comes up in the mechanism, so there is actually a rising spike of pressure as it operates. This spike opens the check valve and a burst of pressure is allowed into the lines. If this check valve is not operating properly, and remains open all the time, the system will pressurize very very slowly. If you blow air backwards towards the compressor at a high enough pressure, you will be able to either hear the leak in the crush rings on the banjo, or you will hear air leaking back through the compressor. Turning the prop over when you have this air blowing backwards will also allow you to help identify leaks. You should have constant pressure with no impact from turning the prop if everything is working correctly. If this all checks good, then it is likely you have a bad compressor,, or drive mechanism. Like a sheared coupling for example. However, he says it is making some air pressure, so that eliminates the coupling. ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Justin Drafts [draftsjust417@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:30 AM Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis describes... I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very audible behavior? Justin On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > wrote: Bill, You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything that flushes out is avgas-clear. Dennis ________________________________ From: William Geipel > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. Not much else to change. Any thoughts? http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List s.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution <=============== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:13 AM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT checking snot valve today. We have not flown it yet. On the ground takes about 12 minutes to get 3.5. And that is from about 2. After that, nothing from snot valve. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 08:21, doug sapp wrote: > > I assume that you are making air? If yes how long does it take to reach pop off @ 45 ATMS? > When you compressor installed did you use new crush washers? > Have you checked the line and line fittings from compressor to snot valve? > > I have a compressor test set if needed. > > Doug > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:33 PM, William Geipel > wrote: > > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > ======================== =========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ======================== =========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ======================== =========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ======================== =========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ======================== =========== > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT From: William Geipel We replaced the compressor. This is a new rebuild. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 08:43, Hans Oortman wrote: > > > Dennis, > > I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) > rather then air-oil separator. > After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you > wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... > > I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing left > again to replace...the air compressor. > In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not > doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now since > the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! > > Regards, > > Hans O. > PH-YAK > > > Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: > >> >> >> No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the >> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-546-8182 (mobile) >> www.yak-52.com >> Skype - Yakguy1 >> >> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: >>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned >>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis >>> describes... >>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the >>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very >>> audible behavior? >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Bill, >>> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it >>> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? >>> >>> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: >>> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot >>> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with >>> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd >>> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything >>> that flushes out is avgas-clear. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* William Geipel > >>> *To:* Yaklist >> > >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM >>> * >>> > >>> >>> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new >>> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, >>> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I >>> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to >>> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is >>> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. >>> >>> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> >>> * >>> *s.matronics.com/ " >>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> * >>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> * >>> *<=============== >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> * >>> >>> * >>> ** >>> ** >>> ** >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ** >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: No SNOT From: William Geipel We are cleaning the snot valve then will blow in reverse. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:51, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > Go back to the pop-off valve assembly, connect your high pressure air bottle there and blow the air BACKWARDS towards the compressor. You'll need to have at least 500 PSI of air. You will more than likely find your problem. Either the crush washers are leaking, or ... your banjo ring check valve assy is leaking air backwards. This will have all the indications of a bad compressor. If everything checks good during this test, and there are no leaks, then your compressor or drive assembly is bad. > ________________________________________ > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Anthony Savarese [dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:07 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT > > > Oops. You are correct. My bad. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Hans Oortman wrote: >> >> >> Dennis, >> >> I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) >> rather then air-oil separator. >> After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you >> wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... >> >> I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing left >> again to replace...the air compressor. >> In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not >> doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now since >> the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! >> >> Regards, >> >> Hans O. >> PH-YAK >> >> >> Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese schreef: >> >>> >>> >>> No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the >>> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. >>> >>> A. Dennis Savarese >>> 334-546-8182 (mobile) >>> www.yak-52.com >>> Skype - Yakguy1 >>> >>>> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: >>>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned >>>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis >>>> describes... >>>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the >>>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very >>>> audible behavior? >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Bill, >>>> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it >>>> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? >>>> >>>> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: >>>> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot >>>> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with >>>> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd >>>> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything >>>> that flushes out is avgas-clear. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* William Geipel > >>>> *To:* Yaklist >>> > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM >>>> * >>>> > >>>> >>>> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new >>>> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, >>>> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I >>>> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to >>>> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is >>>> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. >>>> >>>> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? >>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>> >>>> * >>>> *s.matronics.com/ " >>>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> >>>> * >>>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> * >>>> *<=============== >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> >>>> * >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> >>>> * >>>> * >>>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: No SNOT From: William Geipel No leak at the compressor or its fittings. We blew air from snot valve to compressor. Working on SNOT valve. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:59, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote: > > > Yes. It should have 735 PSI of air in the lines, thus the loud hiss. If there is no pressure in the lines, then there is no hiss. He has a leak. It can be the crush washers, or it can also be the check valve in the banjo assembly. The compressor reaches peak pressure when the piston comes up in the mechanism, so there is actually a rising spike of pressure as it operates. This spike opens the check valve and a burst of pressure is allowed into the lines. If this check valve is not operating properly, and remains open all the time, the system will pressurize very very slowly. If you blow air backwards towards the compressor at a high enough pressure, you will be able to either hear the leak in the crush rings on the banjo, or you will hear air leaking back through the compressor. Turning the prop over when you have this air blowing backwards will also allow you to help identify leaks. You should have constant pressure with no impact from turning the prop if everyth! > ing is working correctly. If this all checks good, then it is likely you have a bad compressor,, or drive mechanism. Like a sheared coupling for example. However, he says it is making some air pressure, so that eliminates the coupling. > > > > ________________________________ > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Justin Drafts [draftsjust417@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:30 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT > > Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis describes... > I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very audible behavior? > > Justin > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > wrote: > Bill, > You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? > > Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything that flushes out is avgas-clear. > > Dennis > > > ________________________________ > From: William Geipel > > To: Yaklist > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM > > > No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > > Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > s.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > <=============== > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:01 AM PST US From: Ernest Martinez Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: No SNOT That=99s what she said. On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 2:34 PM William Geipel wrote: > > We are cleaning the snot valve then will blow in reverse. > > > On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:51, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD < > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > > > Go back to the pop-off valve assembly, connect your high pressure air > bottle there and blow the air BACKWARDS towards the compressor. You'll > need to have at least 500 PSI of air. You will more than likely find > your problem. Either the crush washers are leaking, or ... your banjo ri ng > check valve assy is leaking air backwards. This will have all the > indications of a bad compressor. If everything checks good during this > test, and there are no leaks, then your compressor or drive assembly is b ad. > > ________________________________________ > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [ > owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Anthony Savarese [ > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:07 AM > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT > > > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > > > Oops. You are correct. My bad. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Hans Oortman wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dennis, > >> > >> I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator( ?) > >> rather then air-oil separator. > >> After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well > you > >> wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... > >> > >> I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thin g > left > >> again to replace...the air compressor. > >> In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were n ot > >> doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now > since > >> the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Hans O. > >> PH-YAK > >> > >> > >> Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese > schreef: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the > >>> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. > >>> > >>> A. Dennis Savarese > >>> 334-546-8182 (mobile) > >>> www.yak-52.com > >>> Skype - Yakguy1 > >>> > >>>> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: > >>>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/clean ed > >>>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis > >>>> describes... > >>>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the > >>>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very > >>>> audible behavior? > >>>> > >>>> Justin > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > >>>> > > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Bill, > >>>> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it > >>>> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of > time? > >>>> > >>>> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: > >>>> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot > >>>> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with > >>>> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd > >>>> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything > >>>> that flushes out is avgas-clear. > >>>> > >>>> Dennis > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> *From:* William Geipel > > >>>> *To:* Yaklist >>>> > > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM > >>>> * > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new > >>>> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, > >>>> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I > >>>> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to > >>>> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is > >>>> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > >>>> > >>>> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > >>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> *s.matronics.com/ " > >>>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >>>> * > >>>> *<=============== > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> ** > >>>> ** > >>>> ** > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:01:03 PM PST US From: William Geipel Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Yak-List: No SNOT you did explain that it is a figure of speech? > On Oct 14, 2017, at 12:54, Ernest Martinez wrote: > > That=99s what she said. > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 2:34 PM William Geipel > wrote: > > > We are cleaning the snot valve then will blow in reverse. > > > On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:51, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD > wrote: > > > > > > > Go back to the pop-off valve assembly, connect your high pressure air bottle there and blow the air BACKWARDS towards the compressor. You'll need to have at least 500 PSI of air. You will more than likely find your problem. Either the crush washers are leaking, or ... your banjo ring check valve assy is leaking air backwards. This will have all the indications of a bad compressor. If everything checks good during this test, and there are no leaks, then your compressor or drive assembly is bad. > > ________________________________________ > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] on behalf of Anthony Savarese [dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net ] > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:07 AM > > To: yak-list@matronics.com > > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: No SNOT > > > > > > > Oops. You are correct. My bad. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Hans Oortman > wrote: > >> > > >> > >> Dennis, > >> > >> I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) > >> rather then air-oil separator. > >> After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you > >> wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... > >> > >> I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing left > >> again to replace...the air compressor. > >> In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not > >> doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now since > >> the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Hans O. > >> PH-YAK > >> > >> > >> Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese > schreef: > >> > >>> > > >>> > >>> No. The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom the > >>> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. > >>> > >>> A. Dennis Savarese > >>> 334-546-8182 (mobile) > >>> www.yak-52.com > >>> Skype - Yakguy1 > >>> > >>>> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: > >>>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned > >>>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis > >>>> describes... > >>>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the > >>>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very > >>>> audible behavior? > >>>> > >>>> Justin > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese > >>>> >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Bill, > >>>> You said the bottle pressure increases. In your judgement, is it > >>>> taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amount of time? > >>>> > >>>> Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifices? ie: > >>>> Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot > >>>> bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, then with > >>>> your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out the 3rd > >>>> opening. Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything > >>>> that flushes out is avgas-clear. > >>>> > >>>> Dennis > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> *From:* William Geipel >> > >>>> *To:* Yaklist > >>>> >> > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM > >>>> * > >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, new > >>>> pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals properly, > >>>> new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I > >>>> was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to > >>>> the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is > >>>> clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. > >>>> > >>>> Not much else to change. Any thoughts? > >>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > >>>> > > >>>> * > >>>> *s.matronics.com/ >" > >>>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > >>>> > > >>>> * > >>>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >>>> * > >>>> *<=============== > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> ** > >>>> ** > >>>> ** > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:18 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT Rebuilt compressor may very well be the problem.=C2- Over the years I've seen several so-called "rebuilt" compressors fail in more ways than one. =C2- Dennis From: William Geipel To: Yaklist Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: No SNOT We replaced the compressor. This is a new rebuild. > On Oct 14, 2017, at 08:43, Hans Oortman wrote: > > > Dennis, > > I don't wanna be a smart ass but I think you mean air-water separator(?) > rather then air-oil separator. > After all in our air system in the Yak and I assume in the CJ as well you > wanna have some oil in the air...better for the actuators... > > I think, despite the swap of all items already, there is only one thing l eft > again to replace...the air compressor. > In the beginning of my Yak career I have had 3 compressors that were not > doing what they were supposed to do i.e. deliver 50 bars of air. Now sinc e > the last 12 years I've had no problem whatsoever....touch wood! > > Regards, > > Hans O. > PH-YAK > > > Op 14-10-17 15:38, A. Dennis Savarese schre ef: > >> >> >> No.=C2- The snot bottle is an air-oil separator anddoes its jobfrom th e >> beginning of the first burst of air pressure from the compressor. >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-546-8182 (mobile) >> www.yak-52.com >> Skype - Yakguy1 >> >> On 10/14/2017 9:30 AM, Justin Drafts wrote: >>> Sounds like everything that can and should be checked/replaced/cleaned >>> has been, possibly (?) barring extensive port cleaning Dennis >>> describes... >>> I'm wondering... is there a minimum system pressure required in the >>> main tank & lines before the snot-pot will give its typical & very >>> audible behavior? >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 7:47 AM, A. Dennis Savarese >>> > wrot e: >>> >>>=C2- =C2- Bill, >>>=C2- =C2- You said the bottle pressure increases.=C2- In your judg ement, is it >>>=C2- =C2- taking longer to fill the air bottle or about the same amo unt of time? >>> >>>=C2- =C2- Did you remove the snot bottle and flush out all 3 orifice s? ie: >>>=C2- =C2- Input side; Output side AND the drain? You can immerse the snot >>>=C2- =C2- bottle in avgas, shake it around inside the snot bottle, t hen with >>>=C2- =C2- your fingers, plug up two openings and let it drain out th e 3rd >>>=C2- =C2- opening.=C2- Repeat the process for all 3 openings until everything >>>=C2- =C2- that flushes out is avgas-clear. >>> >>>=C2- =C2- Dennis >>> >>> >>>=C2- =C2- ---------------------------------------------------------- -------------- >>>=C2- =C2- *From:* William Geipel > >>>=C2- =C2- *To:* Yaklist >>=C2- =C2- > >>>=C2- =C2- *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 11:36 PM >>>=C2- =C2- * il.com >>>=C2- =C2- > >>> >>>=C2- =C2- No air or discharge from SNOT valve. New air compressor, n ew >>>=C2- =C2- pop-off valve, cleaned entire valve, snot valve seals prop erly, >>>=C2- =C2- new check valve at fill point, sprayed so much soapy water that I >>>=C2- =C2- was afraid to turn on electricity. No leaks found all the way to >>>=C2- =C2- the gauges. Blew air from compressor in to airplane: snot valve is >>>=C2- =C2- clean and tight, bottle pressure increased. >>> >>>=C2- =C2- Not much else to change. Any thoughts? >>>=C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>=C2- =C2- >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- *s.matronics.com/ " >>>=C2- =C2- target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>=C2- =C2- >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- *http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- *<=============== >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- * >>> >>>=C2- =C2- * >>>=C2- =C2- ** >>>=C2- =C2- ** >>>=C2- =C2- ** >>> >>> * >>> * >>> ** >> >> >> >> > > > > > > S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:19 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Remote oil filter From: "Ttail" Attached images the Oil filter installed on Australian based CJ. All the bits from Air Wolfe. They make a CJ/M14 kit. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473547#473547 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/oilfiltercomposite_178.jpg ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:59 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: No SNOT From: "glipaz" Likely your snot valve is leaking. It might be leaking from the needle valve or the base of the valve (bottom part of the snot bottle) is not tight. I had same issue. Tightened bottom part and it built pressure again. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473559#473559 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:41 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: CJ Nose gear won't retract From: "glipaz" I flew three hops today and on the last one the nose gear would not retract after takeoff. It remained down and locked with a green light. Mains worked fine and showed Red lights for up and locked. Recycled a couple times but it didn't help. I know there's a check valve on the firewall but if it was leaking into the Emerg down air, I believe the mains would also have remained down. Any help is appreciated. 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