Yak-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/25/17


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 05:22 AM - Re: Mags off, still got fire... (bmsim)
     2. 05:27 AM - [Non-DoD Source] Re: Mags off, still got fire... (bmsim)
     3. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Mags off, still got fire... (George S. Coy)
     4. 08:40 AM - Re: Mags off, still got fire... (bmsim)
     5. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: Mags off, still got fire... (A. Dennis Savarese)
     6. 12:01 PM - Re: Mags off, still got fire... (bmsim)
     7. 12:50 PM - Re: Mags off, still got fire... (woodja51)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:22:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Thank you for the replies Dennis and Mark! I'm keeping on digging in to the issue. One thing I can absolutely agree on is that the engine should never run backwards! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473855#473855


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    Time: 05:27:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Thank you for all of the great advice, Mark. I appreciate you taking the time to type it out, and I will definitely act on it. In regards to the "why would you hold in heat" question, my apologies, I was referring to a refuel stop on a XC flight, where you were just stopping for gas, etc. Thanks again! Brandon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473856#473856


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    Time: 07:58:11 AM PST US
    From: "George S. Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    Not to add to confusions, but as I recall, if you use the firewall shut off and then try to pressurize the system with the primer while the valve is in the "OFF" position, it will cause the valve to lock in the "OFF" position. Attempting to move the shutoff lever to the "ON" position will damage the valve. George -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bmsim Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:22 AM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Mags off, still got fire... Thank you for the replies Dennis and Mark! I'm keeping on digging in to the issue. One thing I can absolutely agree on is that the engine should never run backwards! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473855#473855


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    Time: 08:40:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Good to know, thank you Sir. Note, I don't touch the fire valve other than to ensure it is full forward on the checklist, just asked how come. Great responses (and ones that I should have thought of). PS - My Yak bears a GC tail number. :) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473860#473860


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    Time: 09:19:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Have you ever confirmed the fire shut off actually shuts the fuel off? I have seen several shut off arms on the firewall misadjusted and would not shut the fuel off. It's a good idea to check the operation once in awhilejust for safety sake. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 10/25/2017 11:40 AM, bmsim wrote: > > Good to know, thank you Sir. Note, I don't touch the fire valve other than to ensure it is full forward on the checklist, just asked how come. Great responses (and ones that I should have thought of). > > PS - My Yak bears a GC tail number. :) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473860#473860 > >


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    Time: 12:01:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Thanks Dennis, I had planned on confirming at conditional. One of my 172's failed this test years back. Had to remove the fuel shut off valve and have it serviced. It lasted a few years and started weeping, so I stuck a used one in. I'll have to say that getting to that little bugger and putting it in or out is a nightmare, in a 172 at least. Brandon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473863#473863


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    Time: 12:50:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mags off, still got fire...
    From: "woodja51" <mwuillemin@mac.com>
    Big warning in Nanchang manuals about propping off with high CHT above about 80 or so. Also heard a story of a Yak guy losing a kneecap in Barwon heads Australia moving prop after refuel etc. everyone thought he had left mags on .. but I suspect the high cht / glow plug idea proposed earlier. As for closing firewall shutoff .. also noted in manuals that it can cause back fire etc so not recommended . If you want to test it disconnect fuel line after closing it and see if fuel comes out.. easy ! Prop stopping and engine tryng to go backwards might be several things but mis-timed is most likely I think. If its really out , it will run backwards (if you want western prop direction .. !) but I suspect its not designed to do so properly! Can anyone quote me for a complete engine overhaul of a CJ6 at all ...? Would need some level of paperwork for airworthiness too. Back yard rebuild not acceptable as yet. Thanks , Matt Mwuillemin@mac.com +61420347885 Combat Flights Melbourne Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473865#473865




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