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1. 06:57 AM - tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (Jan Mevis)
2. 07:25 AM - Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (HawkerPilot2015)
3. 07:28 AM - Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (John B)
4. 07:20 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
5. 07:37 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (A. Dennis Savarese)
6. 07:44 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (John B)
7. 07:51 PM - Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (Walter Lannon)
8. 08:52 PM - Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 (Royden Heays)
9. 10:36 PM - Re: FS: Yakovlev 52 - $8500 (TBPilot)
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| Subject: | tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
Dear all,
Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become
very difficult.
I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address of
a company that can make them?
Jan Mevis
Yak 50
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| Subject: | Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
Recaps?
I think mine came from Dresser but that was a long time ago.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=475867#475867
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| Subject: | Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
Desser Tire has the tire and tube for the Yak 55 tailwheel. I believe the same
tailwheel is used on Yak 50.
John B
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Jan Mevis <j.mevis@computer.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become very
difficult.
> I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
> As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
>
> Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address of a
company that can make them?
>
> Jan Mevis
> Yak 50
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| Subject: | Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
Jan sent me an email a few days ago asking this same question. I remember back
in the day that Desser was selling these tires and tubes and told him as much.
However, upon a close inspection of their Web Site, I could find no reference
to same so I suggested he ask the YAK List. Who all tell him to go to Desser
tire, but with no specifics.
John mentions that he got a tire and tube from Desser for his YAK-55. My question
for John is this: John, is this the proper Russian tire, is it mounted on
a Russian wheel?
The fact is that the YAK-50, the Sukhoi 26,29,31 all use the same wheel and tire.
I am not sure about the 55 because it can be a one off in a number of ways
and it may not be the same one that is used on the 50, because the whole tailwheel
design is different on a 55.
That being said, I called Desser five minutes ago. They could not come up with
an answer, so they started asking around the office, and then came up and said:
"Oh you need a 400x150 Six ply tire, part number AA454 and tube GL-4067 " So
I went and looked up that number. The picture shows a RIBBED STANDARD TIRE.
This is very interesting since the Russian WHEELS had a segmented wheel with
indents that fit into cut out indents in the tire itself, to prevent slippage
of the tire to the wheel. The Russian tires are not ribbed. They are solid
rubber rounded tires smooth. They have molded segments to fit the wheel as
I just described.
So whatever Desser is selling, it is not a copy of the Russian tire. Will it
fit on a Russian wheel? It might. And since it uses a tube, it would hold
air. Would it fit the wheel the way the Russians meant it to? No way. How
safe, or unsafe would that be? I don't know that either, but it's "Experimental"
so whatever works is OK, right? Well, not in Europe.
Personally Jan, I would not purchase this tire and tube, unless you can come up
with a wheel that it was meant to mount on, that fits the axle on your 50.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: tires for tailwheel Yak 50
Desser Tire has the tire and tube for the Yak 55 tailwheel. I believe the same
tailwheel is used on Yak 50.
John B
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Jan Mevis <j.mevis@computer.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become very
difficult.
> I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
> As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
>
> Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address of a
company that can make them?
>
> Jan Mevis
> Yak 50
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| Subject: | Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
FYI - the 400 x 150 Tire is the same size as the NOSE tire on the Yak 52
and CJ6. DEFINITELY NOT the Yak 50 tail wheel.
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 11/29/2017 4:07 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote:
>
> Jan sent me an email a few days ago asking this same question. I remember back
in the day that Desser was selling these tires and tubes and told him as much.
However, upon a close inspection of their Web Site, I could find no reference
to same so I suggested he ask the YAK List. Who all tell him to go to
Desser tire, but with no specifics.
>
> John mentions that he got a tire and tube from Desser for his YAK-55. My question
for John is this: John, is this the proper Russian tire, is it mounted
on a Russian wheel?
>
> The fact is that the YAK-50, the Sukhoi 26,29,31 all use the same wheel and tire.
I am not sure about the 55 because it can be a one off in a number of ways
and it may not be the same one that is used on the 50, because the whole tailwheel
design is different on a 55.
>
> That being said, I called Desser five minutes ago. They could not come up with
an answer, so they started asking around the office, and then came up and said:
>
> "Oh you need a 400x150 Six ply tire, part number AA454 and tube GL-4067 "
So I went and looked up that number. The picture shows a RIBBED STANDARD TIRE.
This is very interesting since the Russian WHEELS had a segmented wheel
with indents that fit into cut out indents in the tire itself, to prevent slippage
of the tire to the wheel. The Russian tires are not ribbed. They are solid
rubber rounded tires smooth. They have molded segments to fit the wheel
as I just described.
>
> So whatever Desser is selling, it is not a copy of the Russian tire. Will
it fit on a Russian wheel? It might. And since it uses a tube, it would hold
air. Would it fit the wheel the way the Russians meant it to? No way.
How safe, or unsafe would that be? I don't know that either, but it's "Experimental"
so whatever works is OK, right? Well, not in Europe.
>
> Personally Jan, I would not purchase this tire and tube, unless you can come
up with a wheel that it was meant to mount on, that fits the axle on your 50.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:27 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: tires for tailwheel Yak 50
>
>
> Desser Tire has the tire and tube for the Yak 55 tailwheel. I believe the same
tailwheel is used on Yak 50.
> John B
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Jan Mevis <j.mevis@computer.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become very
difficult.
>> I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
>> As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
>>
>> Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address of
a company that can make them?
>>
>> Jan Mevis
>> Yak 50
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
Desser tire. 200x80 six ply tire. Smooth.
This fit fine on my 55, it should fit the 50 as well.
John B
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:36 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>
> FYI - the 400 x 150 Tire is the same size as the NOSE tire on the Yak 52
> and CJ6. DEFINITELY NOT the Yak 50 tail wheel.
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-546-8182 (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
> On 11/29/2017 4:07 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD wrote:
>
>> mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Jan sent me an email a few days ago asking this same question. I
>> remember back in the day that Desser was selling these tires and tubes and
>> told him as much. However, upon a close inspection of their Web Site, I
>> could find no reference to same so I suggested he ask the YAK List. Who
>> all tell him to go to Desser tire, but with no specifics.
>>
>> John mentions that he got a tire and tube from Desser for his YAK-55. My
>> question for John is this: John, is this the proper Russian tire, is it
>> mounted on a Russian wheel?
>>
>> The fact is that the YAK-50, the Sukhoi 26,29,31 all use the same wheel
>> and tire. I am not sure about the 55 because it can be a one off in a
>> number of ways and it may not be the same one that is used on the 50,
>> because the whole tailwheel design is different on a 55.
>>
>> That being said, I called Desser five minutes ago. They could not come
>> up with an answer, so they started asking around the office, and then came
>> up and said:
>>
>> "Oh you need a 400x150 Six ply tire, part number AA454 and tube GL-4067
>> " So I went and looked up that number. The picture shows a RIBBED
>> STANDARD TIRE. This is very interesting since the Russian WHEELS had a
>> segmented wheel with indents that fit into cut out indents in the tire
>> itself, to prevent slippage of the tire to the wheel. The Russian tires
>> are not ribbed. They are solid rubber rounded tires smooth. They have
>> molded segments to fit the wheel as I just described.
>>
>> So whatever Desser is selling, it is not a copy of the Russian tire.
>> Will it fit on a Russian wheel? It might. And since it uses a tube, it
>> would hold air. Would it fit the wheel the way the Russians meant it to?
>> No way. How safe, or unsafe would that be? I don't know that either,
>> but it's "Experimental" so whatever works is OK, right? Well, not in
>> Europe.
>>
>> Personally Jan, I would not purchase this tire and tube, unless you can
>> come up with a wheel that it was meant to mount on, that fits the axle on
>> your 50.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@
>> matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:27 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: tires for tailwheel Yak 50
>>
>>
>> Desser Tire has the tire and tube for the Yak 55 tailwheel. I believe
>> the same tailwheel is used on Yak 50.
>> John B
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Jan Mevis <j.mevis@computer.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become
>>> very difficult.
>>> I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
>>> As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address
>>> of a company that can make them?
>>>
>>> Jan Mevis
>>> Yak 50
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
Hi Mark;
The tire number you received from Desser (400 X 150) is the nose wheel tire
for the CJ6 (and Yak 52?). Inch dimensions approx. 6 X 14.7.
Cheers;
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: tires for tailwheel Yak 50
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Jan sent me an email a few days ago asking this same question. I remember
back in the day that Desser was selling these tires and tubes and told him
as much. However, upon a close inspection of their Web Site, I could find
no reference to same so I suggested he ask the YAK List. Who all tell him
to go to Desser tire, but with no specifics.
John mentions that he got a tire and tube from Desser for his YAK-55. My
question for John is this: John, is this the proper Russian tire, is it
mounted on a Russian wheel?
The fact is that the YAK-50, the Sukhoi 26,29,31 all use the same wheel and
tire. I am not sure about the 55 because it can be a one off in a number
of ways and it may not be the same one that is used on the 50, because the
whole tailwheel design is different on a 55.
That being said, I called Desser five minutes ago. They could not come up
with an answer, so they started asking around the office, and then came up
and said:
"Oh you need a 400x150 Six ply tire, part number AA454 and tube GL-4067 "
So I went and looked up that number. The picture shows a RIBBED STANDARD
TIRE. This is very interesting since the Russian WHEELS had a segmented
wheel with indents that fit into cut out indents in the tire itself, to
prevent slippage of the tire to the wheel. The Russian tires are not
ribbed. They are solid rubber rounded tires smooth. They have molded
segments to fit the wheel as I just described.
So whatever Desser is selling, it is not a copy of the Russian tire. Will
it fit on a Russian wheel? It might. And since it uses a tube, it would
hold air. Would it fit the wheel the way the Russians meant it to? No way.
How safe, or unsafe would that be? I don't know that either, but it's
"Experimental" so whatever works is OK, right? Well, not in Europe.
Personally Jan, I would not purchase this tire and tube, unless you can come
up with a wheel that it was meant to mount on, that fits the axle on your
50.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Yak-List: tires for tailwheel Yak 50
Desser Tire has the tire and tube for the Yak 55 tailwheel. I believe the
same tailwheel is used on Yak 50.
John B
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Jan Mevis <j.mevis@computer.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become
> very difficult.
> I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
> As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
>
> Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address
> of a company that can make them?
>
> Jan Mevis
> Yak 50
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| Subject: | tires for tailwheel Yak 50 |
I agree with John B
Desser have the 80 by 200 smooth tyre, which fits the Russian tailwheel
(beautifully). Albeit, it's hard to find on their website.
Regards
Royden
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:54 AM
Subject: Yak-List: tires for tailwheel Yak 50
Dear all,
Finding tires (plus the inner tubes) for the Yak 50 tailwheel has become
very difficult.
I think that the same tires are used for the Sukhoi aerobatic planes.
As far as I know, the Russian sources are dried up.
Does anyone on the list have an idea or any experience, maybe an address of
a company that can make them?
Jan Mevis
Yak 50
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| Subject: | Re: FS: Yakovlev 52 - $8500 |
Hi Kendel,
I can totally understand your desire to sell the entire plane. I've been talking
to some Yak/CJ pilots in Phoenix and we may be interested in the entire plane.
Give us a little time to discuss and I'll get back with ya.
Thanks,
Tim
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