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Tue 01/02/18


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 07:32 AM - Main air valve stuck (Kurt Howerton)
     2. 07:47 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Terry Calloway)
     3. 07:51 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Ernest Martinez)
     4. 07:55 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Kurt Howerton)
     5. 07:59 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Terry Calloway)
     6. 08:05 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Ernest Martinez)
     7. 08:08 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Greg Wrobel)
     8. 09:14 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Terry Calloway)
     9. 11:46 AM - Re: Main air valve stuck (Michael Foster)
    10. 12:06 PM - Re: Main air valve stuck (doug sapp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:32:01 AM PST US
    From: Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com>
    Subject: Main air valve stuck
    Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. Main air valve wont open - got a space heater blowing on the valve body for about the last hour with no success. Any other ideas? Kurt Howerton 916-282-9231 http://cj6.scitechsys.com


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    Time: 07:47:15 AM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Hate to mention it, but is it already on? Good luck. I have flown my plane in similar circumstance but never had it freeze shut. Can you put something warm against the metal body of the valve, stem or handle like a curling iron or soldering iron? This could work much quicker to diagnose a frozen valve. Good luck. Pumper > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. > > Main air valve wont open - got a space heater blowing on the valve body for about the last hour with no success. > > Any other ideas? > > Kurt Howerton > 916-282-9231 > http://cj6.scitechsys.com > > >


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    Time: 07:51:35 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Better be careful with heaters and the like, the fuel primer is pretty close! On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com> wrote: > > Hate to mention it, but is it already on? > > Good luck. I have flown my plane in similar circumstance but never had i t > freeze shut. Can you put something warm against the metal body of the > valve, stem or handle like a curling iron or soldering iron? This could > work much quicker to diagnose a frozen valve. > > Good luck. > Pumper > > > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. > > > > Main air valve won=99t open - got a space heater blowing on the v alve body > for about the last hour with no success. > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > Kurt Howerton > > 916-282-9231 > > http://cj6.scitechsys.com > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 07:55:36 AM PST US
    From: Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    OMG it was! First thing I asked the new owner. Couldnt turn it either way. Loosened the packing nut and tried both ways. It was stuck open! Kurt Howerton 916-282-9231 http://cj6.scitechsys.com > On Jan 2, 2018, at 09:46, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com> wrote: > > > Hate to mention it, but is it already on? > > Good luck. I have flown my plane in similar circumstance but never had it freeze shut. Can you put something warm against the metal body of the valve, stem or handle like a curling iron or soldering iron? This could work much quicker to diagnose a frozen valve. > > Good luck. > Pumper > >> On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. >> >> Main air valve wont open - got a space heater blowing on the valve body for about the last hour with no success. >> >> Any other ideas? >> >> Kurt Howerton >> 916-282-9231 >> http://cj6.scitechsys.com >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 07:59:48 AM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Good point Ernie. I have seen the wobble pump leak on more than one Nanchang and you usually don=99t see it without removing the right interior panel. Pumper > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote: > > Better be careful with heaters and the like, the fuel primer is pretty close! > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com <mailto:terrycalloway@mac.com>> wrote: <mailto:terrycalloway@mac.com>> > > Hate to mention it, but is it already on? > > Good luck. I have flown my plane in similar circumstance but never had it freeze shut. Can you put something warm against the metal body of the valve, stem or handle like a curling iron or soldering iron? This could work much quicker to diagnose a frozen valve. > > Good luck. > Pumper > > > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com <mailto:grabstein@gmail.com>> wrote: > > <mailto:grabstein@gmail.com>> > > > > Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. > > > > Main air valve won=99t open - got a space heater blowing on the valve body for about the last hour with no success. > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > Kurt Howerton > > 916-282-9231 <tel:916-282-9231> > > http://cj6.scitechsys.com <http://cj6.scitechsys.com/> > > > > > > > > > ======================== =========== > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ======================== =========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ======================== =========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ======================== =========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ======================== =========== > > > >


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    Time: 08:05:17 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Ahh, I didn't even think of the wobble pump! On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com> wrote: > Good point Ernie. > > I have seen the wobble pump leak on more than one Nanchang and you usuall y > don=99t see it without removing the right interior panel. > > Pumper > > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote: > > Better be careful with heaters and the like, the fuel primer is pretty > close! > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com> > wrote: > >> >> Hate to mention it, but is it already on? >> >> Good luck. I have flown my plane in similar circumstance but never had >> it freeze shut. Can you put something warm against the metal body of th e >> valve, stem or handle like a curling iron or soldering iron? This could >> work much quicker to diagnose a frozen valve. >> >> Good luck. >> Pumper >> >> > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. >> > >> > Main air valve won=99t open - got a space heater blowing on the valve >> body for about the last hour with no success. >> > >> > Any other ideas? >> > >> > Kurt Howerton >> > 916-282-9231 >> > http://cj6.scitechsys.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ======================== =========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ >> Navigator?Yak-List >> ======================== =========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ======================== =========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ======================== =========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ======================== =========== >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:08:01 AM PST US
    From: Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Lefty loosee, rightly tightly Sorry but I had a friend that went through same thing. Forgot to turn valve off and was already up against the stop so he kept trying to turn it on further. Open valve fully and close it 1/4 turn so there is some slop. On Jan 2, 2018 09:34, "Kurt Howerton" <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: > > Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. > > Main air valve won=99t open - got a space heater blowing on the val ve body > for about the last hour with no success. > > Any other ideas? > > Kurt Howerton > 916-282-9231 > http://cj6.scitechsys.com =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 09:14:19 AM PST US
    From: Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Glad to be of assistance. Pumper > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: > > > OMG it was! > > First thing I asked the new owner. Couldnt turn it either way. Loosened the packing nut and tried both ways. It was stuck open! > > Kurt Howerton > 916-282-9231 > http://cj6.scitechsys.com > >> On Jan 2, 2018, at 09:46, Terry Calloway <terrycalloway@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hate to mention it, but is it already on? >> >> Good luck. I have flown my plane in similar circumstance but never had it freeze shut. Can you put something warm against the metal body of the valve, stem or handle like a curling iron or soldering iron? This could work much quicker to diagnose a frozen valve. >> >> Good luck. >> Pumper >> >>> On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kurt Howerton <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. >>> >>> Main air valve wont open - got a space heater blowing on the valve body for about the last hour with no success. >>> >>> Any other ideas? >>> >>> Kurt Howerton >>> 916-282-9231 >>> http://cj6.scitechsys.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 11:46:41 AM PST US
    From: Michael Foster <michaelfoster@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    Mine got tight due to corrosion on the seat even with one of Doug=99s stainless valves. Probably need new air valve and do a better job on maint aining desiccant.=C2- Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 11:07 AM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> w rote: Lefty loosee, rightly tightly Sorry but I had a friend that went through same thing. Forgot to turn valve off and was already up against the stop so he kept trying to turn it on fu rther.=C2- Open valve fully and close it 1/4 turn so there is some slop. On Jan 2, 2018 09:34, "Kurt Howerton" <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. Main air valve won=99t open - got a space heater blowing on the valve body for about the last hour with no success. Any other ideas? Kurt Howerton 916-282-9231 http://cj6.scitechsys.com ==== ==================== ========== = List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ Naviga tor?Yak-List ==== ==================== ========== = FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ==== ==================== ========== = WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ==== ==================== ========== = b Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ contribution ==== ==================== ========== =


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    Time: 12:06:41 PM PST US
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Main air valve stuck
    The Stainless steel needle mod is not a sure fire fix for a QSF-6A main air valve UNLESS the set is free of corrosion pits. But the valve can still be salvaged by "spot facing" the seat area which will refresh the seat and then it will seal properly again. Any questions please give me a call. Doug <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Michael Foster <michaelfoster@bellsouth.ne t > wrote: > Mine got tight due to corrosion on the seat even with one of Doug =99s > stainless valves. Probably need new air valve and do a better job on > maintaining desiccant. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS> > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 11:07 AM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Lefty loosee, rightly tightly > > Sorry but I had a friend that went through same thing. Forgot to turn > valve off and was already up against the stop so he kept trying to turn i t > on further. Open valve fully and close it 1/4 turn so there is some slop . > > On Jan 2, 2018 09:34, "Kurt Howerton" <grabstein@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Outside of Fort Worth overnight was 19F. > > Main air valve won=99t open - got a space heater blowing on the val ve body > for about the last hour with no success. > > Any other ideas? > > Kurt Howerton > 916-282-9231 > http://cj6.scitechsys.com > ==== ==================== ========== = > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ > Navigator?Yak-List > ==== ==================== ========== = > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ==== ==================== ========== = > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ==== ==================== ========== = > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ contributi on > ==== ==================== ========== = > >




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