---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/31/18: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:09 AM - Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (motoadve) 2. 08:51 AM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (doug sapp) 3. 08:51 AM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Mark Pennington) 4. 09:41 AM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (JON BLAKE) 5. 11:34 AM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Warren Hill) 6. 01:01 PM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Byron Fox) 7. 02:48 PM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Ttail) 8. 03:07 PM - Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Walter Lannon) 9. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Walter Lannon) 10. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Mark Pennington) 11. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? (Walter Lannon) 12. 10:49 PM - Rudder pedal extenders (Adam) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:08 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? From: "motoadve" I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling with all my strenght and the bar came off. Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not mind it. I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive though. http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this?) -------- www.Backcuountry182.com Cessna 182 P CJ -6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:29 AM PST US From: doug sapp Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? The correct tow bar is L shaped, having the leg of the L going through the nose wheel axle. Sorry no stock at this time. I have not stocked this part because it is rather expensive and the avg CJ driver is not willing to pay close to $300.00 for a tow bar. One note on tugging the CJ6: Be careful to not exceed the mfg's stops when turning sharply left or right. It can get expensive real quickly. Doug On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:18 AM motoadve wrote: > > I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling with > all my strenght and the bar came off. > > Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. > > Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? > > If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not mind > it. > > I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive > though. > > http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm > > And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this?) > > -------- > www.Backcuountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:29 AM PST US From: Mark Pennington Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? I use this to move my CJ around. The unit can have what they call Yak attachments that work on the CJ great. They are extra and work really well. Mark http://www.powertow.com/40-EZ-Aircraft-Tug_p_14.html On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:18 AM motoadve wrote: > > I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling with > all my strenght and the bar came off. > > Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. > > Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? > > If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not mind > it. > > I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive > though. > > http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm > > And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this?) > > -------- > www.Backcuountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:42 AM PST US From: JON BLAKE Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? Doug is correct about the left and right limits... Sadly this was a hard lesson learned at Sun-N-Fun for one of our CJ owners this year. The ramp guys starting pushing the airplane backwards with a tug and exceeding the limits breaking the scissors linkage and other damage. I use this one with a golf cart (google Spoty's universal tow bar https://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/universal-aircraft-towbar.html) and for moving by hand, I use my old Mooney tow bar... it is a little loose, but I wrapped some duct tape around it an it works fine. I've seen others who simply use water pipes with a 90 degree fitting. Just remember Doug Sapp's caution note about limits... Saber > On October 31, 2018 at 10:50 AM doug sapp wrote: > > The correct tow bar is L shaped, having the leg of the L going through the nose wheel axle. > Sorry no stock at this time. I have not stocked this part because it is rather expensive and the avg CJ driver is not willing to pay close to $300.00 for a tow bar. > > One note on tugging the CJ6: > Be careful to not exceed the mfg's stops when turning sharply left or right. It can get expensive real quickly. > > Doug > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:18 AM motoadve < motoadve@racsa.co.cr mailto:motoadve@racsa.co.cr > wrote: > > > > > I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling with all my strenght and the bar came off. > > > > Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. > > > > Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? > > > > If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not mind it. > > > > I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive though. > > > > http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm > > > > And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this?) > > > > -------- > > http://www.Backcuountry182.com > > > > Cessna 182 P > > CJ -6 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg > > > > > > > > ========== > > List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > FORUMS - > > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > > ========== > > WIKI - > > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > > ========== > > b Site - > > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:56 AM PST US From: Warren Hill Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? This is what I use. It=99s a remote controlled tug that has made moving the CJ-6A simple and easy. https://acairtechnology.com/# A Stearman PT-17 owner who shares our hangar uses the same model for the tail wheel. The version that works best with the nose wheel of the CJ is T1V2 Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ > On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:08 AM, motoadve wrote: > > > I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling with all my strenght and the bar came off. > > Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. > > Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? > > If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not mind it. > > I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive though. > > http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm > > And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this?) > > -------- > www.Backcuountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:30 PM PST US From: Byron Fox Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? Years ago I fabricated a tow bar with pre-threaded galvanized pipe sections and joints from Home Depot. If memory serves me correctly, 1" pipe fits nicely through the nose wheel on a CJ. Shortly, however, I tired of pulling and pushing 2+ tons around, so I bought a tug. http://www.powertow.com/40-EZ-Aircraft-Tug_p_14.html Also, Redline Aviation, an RPA Red Alert sponsor, sells the electric "Sidewinder." Not cheap, bit handy. https://www.redlineaviation.com/mooney/sidewinder-mooney-airplanes/ On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:41 AM Warren Hill wrote: > This is what I use. It=99s a remote controlled tug that has made mo ving the > CJ-6A simple and easy. > > https://acairtechnology.com/# > > A Stearman PT-17 owner who shares our hangar uses the same model for the > tail wheel. > > The version that works best with the nose wheel of the CJ is T1V2 > > Warren Hill > N464TW > Mesa, AZ > > > On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:08 AM, motoadve wrote: > > > I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling wit h > all my strenght and the bar came off. > > Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. > > Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? > > If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not min d > it. > > I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive > though. > > http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm > > And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this?) > > -------- > www.Backcuountry182.com > Cessna 182 P > CJ -6 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg > > -- ... Blitz Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:27 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? From: "Ttail" What exactly are "the limits" ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484126#484126 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:07 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? Similar story for me. Used the original heavy Chinese one for years on my own and customer CJ=99s until a new arrival at our field turned out t o be a Supertow dealer. He decided I should have the Supertow 1 for the C J=99s and I kind of agreed with him. He also needed a new AWD compli ed with on his twin so a deal was struck! Been using it for about 8 years now. Works great. Some problems with the lazy-susan resolved by replacing factory bolts with NAS high tensile units =2E Walt From: Byron Fox Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? Years ago I fabricated a tow bar with pre-threaded galvanized pipe sections and joints from Home Depot. If memory serves me correctly, 1" pipe fits ni cely through the nose wheel on a CJ. Shortly, however, I tired of pulling and pushing 2+ tons around, so I bought a tug. http://www.powertow.com/40-E Z-Aircraft-Tug_p_14.html Also, Redline Aviation, an RPA Red Alert sponsor, sells the electric "Sidew inder." Not cheap, bit handy. https://www.redlineaviation.com/mooney/sidewi nder-mooney-airplanes/ On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:41 AM Warren Hill wrote: This is what I use. It=99s a remote controlled tug that has made mo ving the CJ-6A simple and easy. https://acairtechnology.com/# A Stearman PT-17 owner who shares our hangar uses the same model for the tail wheel. The version that works best with the nose wheel of the CJ is T1V2 Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:08 AM, motoadve wrote: I have the original tow bar, and already fell on my ass while pulling w ith all my strenght and the bar came off. Also it is useless for pushing the plane back into the hangar. Any recommendations on a tow bar or tug for the CJ 6? If it is a good tow bar that is not the single axle kind, I would not m ind it. I was looking at this one, does anyone uses this? Its quite expensive t hough. http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product-p/cj-6.htm And adapter needs to be fitted in the nose gear (any problems with this ?) -------- www.Backcuountry182.com Cessna 182 P CJ -6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484114#484114 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_3s_137.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/cj_6_6t_241.jpg -- =2E.. Blitz Byron M. Fox 80 Milland Drive Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-307-2405 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:23 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? I will take a photo for you. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Ttail Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:48 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? What exactly are "the limits" ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484126#484126 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:27:45 PM PST US From: Mark Pennington Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? Please post that here. I would like to see that to. Thanks Mark On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 6:21 PM Walter Lannon wrote: > > I will take a photo for you. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ttail > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:48 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? > > > What exactly are "the limits" ? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484126#484126 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:18 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? Sorry for the lousy photos. Too damn old for smart phones & computers. Photo 1; Front view of strut, rotating collar and stop lug. " " 2. RH view of LH turn fixed stop (FWD). " " 3. RH view of RH turn fixed stop (AFT) The rotating collar of course is attached directly to the wheel fork and inner strut through the scissor links. If the forced turn with a tug is carried to stop contact (red on red) in either direction any further turn will break something. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Walter Lannon Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? I will take a photo for you. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Ttail Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:48 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Tug or tow bar for the CJ6? What exactly are "the limits" ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484126#484126 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:25 PM PST US From: Adam Subject: Yak-List: Rudder pedal extenders I am looking for a set of rudder pedal extenders I am 64 and just got a Cj-6. If anyone has a set or knows where I might be able to get one I sure would appreciate it. Adam Sheffield 830-456-9230. 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