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     0. 04:34 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 02:50 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_Yak-List=3A_Connecting_rod_cyl_=23_5_is_bent=2C_can_the_c?= =?utf-8?Q?ylinder_be_replaced_or_engine_OH_is_a_must=3F? (jlpartington@reagan.com)
     2. 09:38 AM - Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (bmsim)
     3. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (Hank Gibson)
     4. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (\)
     5. 11:06 AM - Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (bmsim)
     6. 11:07 AM - Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (bmsim)
     7. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (Warren Hill)
     8. 12:32 PM - Re: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (Hank Gibson)
     9. 06:16 PM - Re: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced or engine OH is a must? (Roger Kemp)
    10. 06:16 PM - Re: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced or engine OH is a must? (Roger Kemp)
    11. 06:18 PM - Re: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced or engine OH is a must? (Roger Kemp)
    12. 06:42 PM - Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? (Roger Kemp)
    13. 08:36 PM - Re: Help please! Looking for CJ over the road towing options. (Off2wildblue)
    14. 09:33 PM - Re: fuel system CJ-6 (Off2wildblue)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:34:51 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
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    Time: 02:50:03 AM PST US
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    =?utf-8?Q?ylinder_be_replaced_or_engine_OH_is_a_must=3F?
    From: jlpartington@reagan.com
    =0AI have one, contact off line=0AJim=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: "Brian Macey" <bmacey916@gmail.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, 20 November, 2018 4:09 pm=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced or engine OH is a must?=0A=0A=0A =0A=0AI have a friend looking to buy a damaged motor if you are interested in selling it. I also have a new motor which will be finishing up assembly at Aerometal if anyone is interested.=0ABrian=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Nov 20, 20 18 at 1:59 PM Bill Culberson <[ migfighter42@gmail.com ]( mailto:migfighter fighter42@gmail.com ]( mailto:migfighter42@gmail.com )>=0A=0A Doesn =99t look as bad as mine, but you need to check the crankshaft. At that poi nt, it=99s pretty far apart so...=0A=0A Bill Culberson =0A Red Star A ero Services=0A 251/716/8119=0A=0A > On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Serge Svo ysky <[ ssvoysky@gmail.com ]( mailto:ssvoysky@gmail.com )> wrote:=0A > =0A > <IMG-0500.JPG>=0A=0A ============0A br> fts!)=0A r> > e.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com=0A rel ="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A -Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A ============0A List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Naviga tor?Yak-List=0A ============0A FORUMS -=0A eferrer" t arget="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com=0A ========= ===0A WIKI -=0A errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com=0A ============0A b Site -=0A -Matt Dralle, Li st Admin.=0A rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ contribution=0A ============0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:38:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Thanks guys! I have rebuild kits and filter for the T assembly. For the individual sides, do the check valves just screw apart? I disassembled the T the other day and tried to take one of the valves apart but it was so hard to turn that it appears to need a vise. I didn't know if that's normal or if I'd be tearing something up, so I stopped until I could ask. Should the individual sides of the T assembly require a vise to disassemble, or am I missing something on how to disassemble? Brandon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485478#485478


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    Time: 10:23:30 AM PST US
    From: Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    Hi Brandon- Yes a vise will help in disassembly and rebuild of your check valves and pop off valve. You really ought to have the CJ parts manuals. Refer to Parts Book Vol 1, pages 442-448 for all things check valves. Will all make sense. I sent you Vol 1 direct to your email. Hoot Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:37 PM, bmsim <bmsim@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks guys! > > I have rebuild kits and filter for the T assembly. For the individual sides, do the check valves just screw apart? I disassembled the T the other day and tried to take one of the valves apart but it was so hard to turn that it appears to need a vise. I didn't know if that's normal or if I'd be tearing something up, so I stopped until I could ask. > > Should the individual sides of the T assembly require a vise to disassemble, or am I missing something on how to disassemble? > > Brandon > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485478#485478 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:26:57 AM PST US
    From: "\"" <cjpilot710@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    Brandon,To disassemble the check valves does take some muscle. =C2-(I thi nk there are 4 chinamen on a 4-foot bar wrench tightening these things some times). =C2-You can get a kit from Doug Sapp to replace the rubber (the b est kind) in the check valves. =C2-A lot of times there is corrosion=C2 -there and you may need a whole new check valve but clean it up real good . =C2-Most of the time its just the rubber that's bad. =C2-IAC clean it up good then I coat mine with a thin layer=C2-of boat axle grease. =C2 -(That seems to help alot=C2-on the corrosion issue). =C2- Jim "Pappy" Goolsby -----Original Message----- From: bmsim <bmsim@hotmail.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 21, 2018 12:39 pm Subject: Yak-List: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not? Thanks guys! I have rebuild kits and filter for the T assembly.=C2- For the individual sides, do the check valves just screw apart?=C2- I disassembled the T th e other day and tried to take one of the valves apart but it was so hard to turn that it appears to need a vise.=C2- I didn't know if that's normal or if I'd be tearing something up, so I stopped until I could ask.=C2- Should the individual sides of the T assembly require a vise to disassemble , or am I missing something on how to disassemble? Brandon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485478#485478 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 11:06:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Thank you very much!! I'll disassemble again and get to work rebuilding. I have the kits with the rubber washers, etc. already, so hopefully I can get them apart and installed. Thanks again! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485484#485484


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    Time: 11:07:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    From: "bmsim" <bmsim@hotmail.com>
    Thank you very much! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485485#485485


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    Time: 11:44:32 AM PST US
    From: Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com>
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    Brandon, On occasion, after rebuilding the CJ check valves, they will continue to leak for a week or two. The hard rubber disk over the metal cap on top of the spring may take a while to properly seat. Soaking the hard rubber cap in glycerine sometimes helps. A few will continue to leak no matter what and need to be replaced. A simple test of individual check values before going through the trouble of installing them is to connect an air pressure gauge via a B-nut on the outflow side and then pressurize the inflow side to 50 ATM (735 PSI). After turning off and removing the air source, the pressure on the outflow side should hold. A common point of failure and annoyance is on the right side of the oil tank where a pair of check valves separate air flow into the main and the emergency systems. It=99s also not a bad idea to replace check values that have been in place for a long time. The amount of internal corrosion can be astonishing. Attached is a picture of what typical check valve corrosion looks like. Hope this helps, Warren Hill N464TW Mesa, AZ > On Nov 21, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi Brandon- > > Yes a vise will help in disassembly and rebuild of your check valves and pop off valve. You really ought to have the CJ parts manuals. Refer to Parts Book Vol 1, pages 442-448 for all things check valves. Will all make sense. I sent you Vol 1 direct to your email. > > Hoot > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:37 PM, bmsim <bmsim@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks guys! >> >> I have rebuild kits and filter for the T assembly. For the individual sides, do the check valves just screw apart? I disassembled the T the other day and tried to take one of the valves apart but it was so hard to turn that it appears to need a vise. I didn't know if that's normal or if I'd be tearing something up, so I stopped until I could ask. >> >> Should the individual sides of the T assembly require a vise to disassemble, or am I missing something on how to disassemble? >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485478#485478 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 12:32:27 PM PST US
    From: Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    Brandon- You could also replace all check valves with Swagelok check valves which are an easy drop in. Problems solved and no more fiddling with rubber discs/cr ush seals and bodies which loosen. All six for about $280. To me worth the price to improve health of pneumatic system. Old nipples with flare are tr ansferred and work with a 1/8=9D NPT Swagelok. Part number is =9C SS-2C4-xx (last number is =9Ccracking pressure=9D which is not c ritical, may be 1/3, 1, 10 and 25 , I believe). See pics. Sent from my iPhone Good luck- Hoot > On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Warren Hill <hill@doctor-hill.com> wrote: > > Brandon, > > On occasion, after rebuilding the CJ check valves, they will continue to l eak for a week or two. The hard rubber disk over the metal cap on top of the spring may take a while to properly seat. Soaking the hard rubber cap in gl ycerine sometimes helps. A few will continue to leak no matter what and need to be replaced. A simple test of individual check values before going throu gh the trouble of installing them is to connect an air pressure gauge via a B -nut on the outflow side and then pressurize the inflow side to 50 ATM (735 P SI). After turning off and removing the air source, the pressure on the outf low side should hold. A common point of failure and annoyance is on the righ t side of the oil tank where a pair of check valves separate air flow into t he main and the emergency systems. > > It=99s also not a bad idea to replace check values that have been in place for a long time. The amount of internal corrosion can be astonishing. Attached is a picture of what typical check valve corrosion looks like. > > Hope this helps, > > Warren Hill > N464TW > Mesa, AZ > > > > <Check_Valve.jpg> > > > > >> On Nov 21, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Hank Gibson <hkgibby@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Brandon- >> >> Yes a vise will help in disassembly and rebuild of your check valves and p op off valve. You really ought to have the CJ parts manuals. Refer to Part s Book Vol 1, pages 442-448 for all things check valves. Will all make sens e. I sent you Vol 1 direct to your email. >> >> Hoot >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:37 PM, bmsim <bmsim@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks guys! >>> >>> I have rebuild kits and filter for the T assembly. For the individual s ides, do the check valves just screw apart? I disassembled the T the other d ay and tried to take one of the valves apart but it was so hard to turn that it appears to need a vise. I didn't know if that's normal or if I'd be tea ring something up, so I stopped until I could ask. >>> >>> Should the individual sides of the T assembly require a vise to disassem ble, or am I missing something on how to disassemble? >>> >>> Brandon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485478#485478 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> http://wiki.matronics.com >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >


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    Time: 06:16:29 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced
    or engine OH is a must? Have one that is completely disassembled. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Nov 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Brian Macey <bmacey916@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a friend looking to buy a damaged motor if you are interested in se lling it. I also have a new motor which will be finishing up assembly at Aer ometal if anyone is interested. > Brian > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:59 PM Bill Culberson <migfighter42@gmail.com> w rote: >> >> Doesn=99t look as bad as mine, but you need to check the crankshaft . At that point, it=99s pretty far apart so... >> >> Bill Culberson >> Red Star Aero Services >> 251/716/8119 >> >> > On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Serge Svoysky <ssvoysky@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > <IMG-0500.JPG> >> >> ========== >> br> fts!) >> r> > e.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== >> >> >>


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    Time: 06:16:58 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced
    or engine OH is a must? =F0=9F=91=8D Sent from my iPad > On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:51 PM, George S. Coy <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote: > > I presume you mean can the link rod be replaced. Yes, but it is not fun. I f it is a high time engine, you should consider overhaul. > > George Coy > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Serge Svoysky > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:08 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be rep laced or engine OH is a must? > > <image001.jpg>


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    Time: 06:18:12 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be replaced
    or engine OH is a must? Rebuild. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Nov 20, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Mark Davis <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote: > > How did it get bent? Prop strike? Hydraulic lock? > > Mark Davis > N44YK > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Serge Svoysky > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 2:08 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Connecting rod cyl # 5 is bent, can the cylinder be rep laced or engine OH is a must? > > <image001.jpg>


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    Time: 06:42:02 PM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Snot valve, constantly builds pressure. Normal/Not?
    Sounds like the system check valves on the firewall are leaking. If one is l eaking they all will eventually leak. May as well replace all three. This is the T rebuild using CJ new SS check valves from Doug Sapp. You will h ave to wrap the valves with anti chaff tape to get the correct diameter when you anchor the adell clamps on the firewall. There is a L beam firewall sti ffener that the B nut will chaff on if you do not put a chaff tape spacer on the check valve barrels. Doug has a kit that has all the needed check valves to replace your existing leakers. Doc Sent from my iPad > On Nov 20, 2018, at 7:33 AM, bmsim <bmsim@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Everyone! > > In searching for an air leak and rebuilding a couple of things already, I f ound something I have a question about. Whenever I open the snot valve, air blows out. This is regardless of if the engine has ran or not, if I dump it and let it sit for 10 min, I can open the valve and it has pressure. Is th at normal, or might I be leaking air there? > > > Brandon > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485342#485342 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >


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    Time: 08:36:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Help please! Looking for CJ over the road towing options.
    From: "Off2wildblue" <Off2wildblue@me.com>
    I just wanted to say thanks to everybody that sent me a message and helped me out. You gave some great ideas. I ended up using a 16 foot trailer with 8 inch wide C-channel side ramps. The square tubing that ran across the ramp were a quarter inch thick. The setup works fantastic. SAM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485498#485498 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/6f7cc430_d7c2_4791_af98_a7eae669a5e2_173.jpeg


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    Time: 09:33:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: fuel system CJ-6
    From: "Off2wildblue" <Off2wildblue@me.com>
    Did you ever get any information about this topic? My new CJ has the same system and I can really use a diagram as well. Thanks, SAM Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485500#485500




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